Trial - Ross Harris #5

[SuperTmo]

May is also when Leanna's friend said she had backed off wanting to have more kids - she said it wasn't a good time for it, which was the opposite of what she had said prior. IMO something happened during late Spring that was impacting their marriage.

If I remember correctly (and its highly likely I don't) didn't he get caught cheating or sexting with other women or something? Maybe that happened around that time.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Webb says his last communication from Harris was May 29, not quite three weeks before Cooper died.

Rodriguez on re-direct: "Mr. Webb, you wouldn't consider Ross a friend, would you?" "No, he was a client," Webb said.

He also says no one from the Cobb County police contacted him regarding Harris.

 

[Hope4More]

And, duh, who goes looking to buy a house when they were counting on a promotion and didn't get it? It's called being an adult and reevaluating.

Schools a priority, superior credit...and hidden rooms and prostitutes.

 

[TexMex]

So are you saying that it is ok to ignore the manufacturer's recommendations of when a car seat is too small for a child? Interesting that yesterday we spent post after post analyzing the "inches" that the car seat was in the wrong location for the recreation video - but the *actual* size of the car seat/*actual* size of Cooper is negotiable.

It's kind of like RH sexting logic. The age of consent is 16 so it must be ok to send her a pic of my junk and request the same from a girl in high school, right? Nope

 

[katydid23]

Calling Det Murphy to the witness stand---ought to be an interesting fishing expedition...

 

[Maisiebelle]

What does it mean to be a hostile witness and how do they behave differently?


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[JerseyGirl]

Webb is excused as a witness, and the defense calls Det. Shawn Murphy.

Bryan Lumpkin handles direct examination for the defense.

Det. Murphy says he has been with the Cobb police for 10 years after working for the Atlanta Police Department for three years. He has been a detective in Cobb for about three years.

He was riding with Det. Phil Stoddard, following up on another case, when they received a call to report to Akers Mill Square shopping center.

Says Stoddard was appointed lead detective that day, and Murphy was assigned as second. The two worked "hand in hand" for the most part, Murphy says.

 

[byo]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago

#RossHarris - Murphy arrived on scene with Det. Stoddard. Stoddard was the lead Det., Murphy the "second".

 

[Hope4More]

It's kind of like RH sexting logic. The age of consent is 16 so it must be ok to send her a pic of my junk and request the same from a girl in high school, right? Nope

You think a 30 or so year old married man sending photos of his genitals to a 16 year old girl is equivalent to not buying a second new car seat when a child still fits in the first?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Murphy says Harris was sitting in a patrol car by the time he arrived on the scene.

He didn't speak with Harris there, he says.

Within an hour, he and Stoddard returned to headquarters, where Harris was taken.

Murphy says he did not take part in the interrogation of Harris at HQ but instead began preparing search warrant applications for Harris's home, his car and his computers.

 

[JerseyGirl]

What does it mean to be a hostile witness and how do they behave differently?


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I had to google it:

A hostile witness, otherwise known as an adverse witness or an unfavorable witness, is a witness at trial whose testimony on direct examination is either openly antagonistic or appears to be contrary to the legal position of the party who called the witness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_witness

 

[JerseyGirl]

Murphy says he believes Harris arrived at police headquarters before he and Stoddard did.

He later saw him on camera in an interrogation room: the detectives, he says, are equipped with software that enables them to watch or listen to what's happening in the interrogation room from their desks.

 

[Maisiebelle]

I had to google it:

A hostile witness, otherwise known as an adverse witness or an unfavorable witness, is a witness at trial whose testimony on direct examination is either openly antagonistic or appears to be contrary to the legal position of the party who called the witness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_witness

Thank you. I suppose I should have just googled it lol

 

[Maisiebelle]

Does anyone else think the defence attourney is asking his question superfast?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Murphy prepared four search warrant applications at his computer and then transmitted them to a judge for approval.

At that point, prosecutor Boring objects to three questions in a row, and Staley Clark sustains each objection.

Murphy said the next day he and Stoddard went to the medical examiner's office for the autopsy of Cooper Harris and then went back to the office apply for more warrants.

Lumpkin asks how many. Boring objects, and Staley Clark sustains it.

Murphy says he and Stoddard interviewed several of Harris's co-workers of Harris at Home Depot -- those who worked closest by him. He described the cubicles there as having short walls that enabled workers to see one another. Lumpkin asks whether Murphy noticed any mementos or personal items in Harris's cubicle. Murphy says he can't remember.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Thank you. I suppose I should have just googled it lol

but I learned something new today, too. I've heard it used before, never really quite understood until now.

 

[TexMex]

You think a 30 or so year old married man sending photos of his genitals to a 16 year old girl is equivalent to not buying a second new car seat when a child still fits in the first?

No. I think there are very clear rules for each. It seems RH decided it was up to his discretion whether or not he'd follow them.
He chose to ignore both

 

[*JMO*]

This case hurts my heart just like it does for everyone here. When it first was reported I thought it was just another tragic, preventable accident. Very soon afterward, I read of the father's arrest, the supposed internet searches by both parents on child car death, and the seemingly odd reactions by the parents to their baby's death. As the facts unfold, doubt on the accuracy of some of the initial reporting seems evident.

Since then I had my own beloved son die suddenly without warning. That is still hard for me to even write. If someone had told me before hand that I would lose one of my beloved sons, I would have told them to not bother worrying about me, that I could not survive that. My life would just wither up and die. I have since learned that shock is a very odd emotion that allows one to mask the grief and pain and agony that is inside. The face I showed and continue to show to the world is not what I would have expected and most likely isn't the one anyone else expected either. I have learned to not judge what grief looks like, that it is not a prediction of how someone's heart is breaking. I know now that PTSD is not something that just happens to those in combat.

I've gone back and forth on my feelings about this case. I have had to dismiss what I feel about RH as a man, as a husband and even a father to distinguish between his guilt as a murderer from that of his guilt of adultery, sexting minors and of being just generally dis-likable and hypocritical.

The other evening I went to the website of KidsInCars.org. I read every single heartbreaking story of the parents that left their children in a car. While most of them did have a significant break in their normal routine that explained the false memory of dropping their child off at the sitters or daycare, some did not. Some were sleep deprived, stressed, worried. One father ran into a co-worker and became so distracted with conversation with him that he left to go on job site with him, forgetting the baby in his car. Others had similar distractions and lack of sleep and stress were predominate in their stories. .

Near my town we had a recent tragic car death. The mother was an attorney for a large school district. Her routine was to take the baby to the day care and then begin her 45 min commute to the school administration office. On this day she forgot to take the baby to daycare and drove on to work. Whether she had a phone call that distracted her or had her mind on a stressful meeting awaiting her or any other distractions, I do not know. All I know is that she reportedly left work that afternoon and went into the daycare center to pick up her child. That is when she was told her child was not there and she realized he was still in the car.

From all accounts this was a child cherished by her and her husband. His sweet obituary said they they had struggled with infertility before being blessed with this baby. Her Instagram showed happy, loving pictures of a motherly pride in showing off her baby at his recent first birthday.

We would all like to believe this can only happen to other people, to bad parents, to someone that didn't care or love their child enough to protect them. Someone like RH. But I don't believe that to be true. After reading the heart rendering stories of real parents that have suffered this nightmare, I believe that the many pressures on working parents, the increased distractions of technology and even the policies regarding the rear facing car seats (which I know protects and is recommended) has lead to these babies dying.

I am leaning toward believing that RH was so addicted to sex and his mind was so all consumed with what his next texting escapade was going to be that his mind either provided him a false memory of taking his child to daycare or the baby was just was forgotten all together.

While this is not as easy to accept as that of a parent that had a change in routine or a stressful meeting at work, I think it was just a big of a mental distraction. I think he is an immoral, immature, self centered human being but I don't think that necessarily means he murdered his child. I think that his personal history makes it much easier to believe he planned this out as an escape from an unhappy marriage and obligations. But I am left with reasonable doubt if that is the truth.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...h-in-car-in-Dayton-coincides-with-9240494.php

 

[Maisiebelle]

but I learned something new today, too. I've heard it used before, never really quite understood until now.

I don't see much hostility but maybe its because the defence haven't been allowed to ask the questions they want to. It appears the search warrants are very much off limits.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Murphy says he went to the Treehouse, the name of the Home Depot office building, and also to the Home Depot corporate offices, to serve search warrants.

He then talks about his visit to the Harrises' home on June 30, 2014, to serve a search warrant. The warrant sought any financial records and also for the light bulbs Harris said he had bought at lunchtime on the day Cooper died.

He said officers checked to see whether there were light bulbs burned out in the residence; that is, whether Harris had a reason to buy the light bulbs he bought that day. But he found that the light bulb in the master bathroom was burned out.