Trial - Ross Harris #6

[JerseyGirl]

Boring: You said you've gone back and watched the interviews of you (with police), and you didn't recognize that person, right?

Taylor: I did not recognize myself, that's correct.

Boring: At the time, it looked suspicious at the time, didn't it?

Taylor: It was odd.

Boring concedes that, from this remove, her behavior might be explainable, but notes that at the time it wasn't a surprise that investigators viewed her reactions with suspicion. Taylor does not disagree.

Boring: You said nobody had told you up to that point where Cooper was. That's not true is it?

Taylor: Nobody told me where Cooper was. That I can remember.

Boring: (At the Treehouse office building, you met with Det. Stockinger.) Do you remember that he actually told you, he volunteered it to you, that Coper was going to be going to the medical examiner's office.

Taylor: I didn't remember it ... it's very difficult for me to listen to. I just don't remember that specific part.

Boring persists, saying her earlier statement that nobody told her where Cooper was, was incorrect.

Taylor agrees.

 

[minor4th]

"And things like that"

"And things of that nature"

It's driving me bananas! Apparently it's a nervous tick

 

[blue22]

I'm not a lawyer or follow many trials. For those who know more, can she really say "I don't know" to the majority of questions? How does a witness get away with that? She remembered every single thing for the defense.

 

[Hope4More]

For me, sticking points, for the "accident" theory, make this whole scenario almost absurd, IMO.
For arguments sake, let's say we're in some alternate universe, where memory gets erased almost immediately - which is pretty much what needed to happen for Ross to forget about Cooper.
So, again, we'll go with Cooper fell asleep and Ross totally didn't realize he was still in his car seat, Ross forgot to drop Cooper off at day care, so Ross just went straight to work.
**I'm not even going to go into the sexting, etc.
So, Ross parks his car.
Ross takes off his seat belt.
Ross leans over to get his brief case.

1) That car is small.
2) Ross isn't small.
3) There is a baby seat right at his elbow.

Therefore, the ratio of Ross's size vs. location of baby seat vs. size of front area of vehicle vs. noises in the car = Cooper's NOT sleeping, anymore.

Cooper, for all intents and purposes, was awake in CFA. Below is a site explaining the sleep cycle:
http://psychcentral.com/lib/stages-of-sleep/

When we are preparing to drift off, we go though Alpha and Theta, and have periods of dreaminess, almost like daydreaming, except we are beginning to fall asleep. These are interesting states, in that we experience them throughout the day and some people may have more of these waves than others.
etc., etc.
We then begin to enter Theta, which is still a relatively light period between being awake and asleep. This usually lasts for 5-10 minutes. Research has shown that the average sleeper takes about 7 minutes to fall asleep. You may fall asleep sooner, or take longer.

Toddlers:
http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a558731/understanding-your-toddlers-sleep

What happens when my toddler falls asleep?
Just like adults, toddlers go through four phases of sleep:

•drowsiness
•light sleep
•dream sleep, also known as rapid eye movement (REM) sleep
•deep sleep

I know, nothing that hasn't been brought up. The ONLY scenario, IMO, that seems even ever so slightly feasible, to me, is from a post "Inthedetails" made about Ross leaving Cooper in the car with all intentions of returning to take him to day care and getting wrapped up in "other" things. Even that theory, IMO, has things that need to be explained.
But, never fear, that ding dong of a prosecutor gave the defense somewhat of a reinforcement yesterday. Ross was concerned with/afraid of how people perceived him....basically, he wanted to look like Mr. Super Dad.

So, the defense can say Ross DID, in fact, inadvertently "forget" about his plan to drop off Cooper, AFTER he showed his face at work. Again, due to getting wrapped up in "other" things, he forgets. When Ross realized what he did/found Cooper, he became paralyzed with fear about how this would look to other people and did nothing until he felt he absolutely positively had no other choice.

AND, how absurd even writing this seems to me! What this all comes down to, IMO, is having to accept way too many "maybe's" and far too much stretching of possibilities to make rational sense of this horrific crime.
As always, all my posts are only in my opinion.

About how long it takes to go to sleep. Did you watch the video of Cooper falling asleep within seconds, still holding his grilled cheese sandwich? Babies and toddlers and young children can indeed go from seeming wide awake and perky to sound asleep yes, seconds later, especially in a car, and there is nothing remarkable about that fact whatsoever.

 

[monkeypants]

Not sure I believe she didn't speak to the defense last night

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[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm not a lawyer or follow many trials. For those who know more, can she really say "I don't know" to the majority of questions? How does a witness get away with that? She remembered every single thing for the defense.

Selective memory. LT remembered many dates, times, locations, etc. of a wide assortment of photos/videos presented by the defense. :gaah:

 

[monkeypants]

Leo isn't supposed to feel sympathy..they are doing their job

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[JerseyGirl]

Leanna says after re-watching her interactions at the police station she agrees that she was acting "odd." Says the whole thing was an out-of-body experience.

Boring says Leanna's first question after learning about the death of her son was about her husband.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/ross-harr...the-ross-harris-hot-car-death-trial/462708300

 

[monkeypants]

Another day of Ross looking at his own eyebrows

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[JerseyGirl]

Boring recalls the "did you say too much comment." He says, "Objectively, that looked odd?"
Taylor acknowledges that it did.
This is a reference to a comment Taylor made to her then-husband when she met with him in the interrogation room at police headquarters. She asked, "Did you say too much?"

Boring asks how many times she has met with defense attorneys for Harris.
She says she doesn't have a count.

Have you met with them since you've been down here.
Yes.

Did you meet with them last night?
No.

He asks whether she reviewed anything last night in preparation for her testimony today. She says she wanted to review the transcript of her interview but then says she couldn't read it, indicating that it was too painful.

Boring implies that she received some coaching from the defense, saying the defense team told her about the questions it would ask and what the prosecution was likely to ask.

 

[monkeypants]

Laying financial issues speculation...boring doing well getting her to actually answer

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[Hope4More]

So, I'm still missing the relevancy, regardless of what side brought it up... Am I missing something?

No. It was irrelevant. State just wanted to toss in one more suggestion about RH leading a deep dark secret life.

 

[monkeypants]

I'm finding it hard to believe she hasn't seen or watched or heard all of these trial issues.

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[blue22]

No. It was irrelevant. State just wanted to toss in one more suggestion about RH leading a deep dark secret life.

The defense brought it up first...

 

[blue22]

It seems like the defense didn't prepare her so she could say "I don't remember," or "I don't know."

At what point can she be forced to answer yes or no? She won't answer anything. She is clearly skirting nearly every question. It's ridiculous.

 

[monkeypants]

Lots of water drinking by LT...that's a sign of discomfort.

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[JerseyGirl]

Boring asks Taylor to confirm that her then-husband was unsatisfied with his salary at Home Depot and was hoping to get a job with Chick-fil-A but was not chosen. She does.

He then asks her about Taylor having to increase her hours -- she worked as a dietician -- and whether Harris was unhappy about that.

"He knew that was not what I wanted," she said.

Boring suggests that Harris also didn't want to shoulder more responsibility at home.

But Taylor says that wasn't the case.

 

[monkeypants]

Contacts seem to bother her. Should have not worried about vanity and done glasses. I know if I'm crying or tired etc my contacts feel like glass in my eyes

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[JerseyGirl]

Boring: You guys were, I'm sure, conscious and worried about money.

Taylor: We weren't living extravagantly. He went back to school later, as an adult. We were getting to the point that we were able to put a little money in savings.

Boring repeats that the couple was trying not to live extravagantly, and Taylor confirms that.

He then asks Taylor about the family cruise that her husband wanted to take.

The prosecutor produces a record of texts regarding the cruise.

One, from Harris, says "I want this to happen."

 

[ERRN1313]

The defense has had two years to prepare Leanna for her testimony. They know what looked suspicious, they probably read here, so they were adequately prepared to try to "deflect" said testimony with acceptable explanations ie: "I told him to stop taking pictures" or "How much did you say" only came out that way when I meant "why are they charging you, what did you say" since he overtalked often, and "I didn't think we were ready to buy a house." We only have her word that that is what happened. Do I think she would say anything to "save" Ross, yes.