Trial - Ross Harris #6

[monkeypants]

I'm just saying that if LT was MY bff you better believe I'd be reading and watching everything so i could help her etc.very hard to believe she hasn't watched or read

 

[JerseyGirl]

The prosecution is now cross-examining Bond.

Bond last saw Leanna and Harris together in March 2014 when they were visiting in Mississippi.

Bond said Leanna did not like to be the center of attention. Harris was very different, gregarious and outgoing.

 

[popsicle]

It was her that wanted to do the interview.... oh wait now she says it was Leanna's lawyer who thought she would be the best person to speak out.

 

[Hope4More]

So he gets passed over for a promotion, that means he should just stop finishing his work, start leaving early, goofing around? Does that make any sense at all? Because just being passed over does not mean one is going to be fired or get a bad recommendation for the next job. But he was heading that way, purposely, by his irresponsible actions at work. He was making things much worse.

And he had a family to take care of. It didn't seem like he had them in mind.

He was passed over for promotion, then not hired at CFA. They wanted a house and more kids and both goals had to be put on hold. He had ED.

There was nothing constructive about how he handled any of those failures, but I don't think it is impossible to understand that's what they were, and that the man was depressed, not morphing into a monster capable of murdering his baby.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Bond testified that she talked to Leanna every day after Cooper’s death. She went with Leanna to visit Harris maybe once or twice, she said.

Bond said she spoke to the defense maybe 7 or 8 times since Cooper’s death and on at least two occasions since Bond arrived in Brunswick. So it’s more like 9 or 10 total.

Bond said she was not interviewed by an investigator.

“I’m not trying to be overly critical,” Evans said. The prosecution tried to schedule an interview with her but Bond said she was not going to talk to them.

"You don’t have a problem talking to the defense,” Evans pointed out.

Meanwhile, on Sept. 22, 2014, Bond went on Good Morning America to talk about the case.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Bond said on national TV that Harris and Leanna had a rocky marriage.

“She knew he had been looking at porn, and she knew he had been messaging other women,” Bond said.

Was it your decision to go on Good Morning America or was it the defense’s idea, Evans asked.

“I was given the opportunity to speak the truth and I knew I needed to take it,” Bond said. Leanna’s attorney set up the interview.

“He said I thought I would be the best person to speak the truth about Leanna and Ross,” Bond said.

 

[rob]

Because....why, exactly would Leanna want to lie for Ross?

I'm not going to bash her, but I still think she could have been a player in all this. Her reactions and comments don't hold true for me, even after her rehearsed explanations. Her behavior on the stand and in the audience during the GJ hearing also didn't work for me. She might just be an odd-ball, but people don't behave the way these 2 did.
not in my world anyway.
MOO

 

[JerseyGirl]

Evans asked Bond if she had a chance to look at the state’s evidence against Harris. No, she replied.

In regards to how the GMA interview came about, Bond said she had told Zimmerman, “I was very very angry and I mentioned I wished someone would tell the truth.”

The attorney said that GMA had contacted him initially to be interviewed.

 

[Bravo]

I guess there is one thing we can all agree on. Poor little man Cooper died a horrific death. I wasn't even sure if I could come back here for Trial. Wish I had not read those details.

 

[blue22]

Who is the witness on stand now? I lost my sound

 

[gitana1]

I don't see any coincidences other than a text exchange with a stranger in the AM of the 18th, in which Ross was whining about Leanna not liking his going out to play, and unfortunately for him, using the word "escape" rather than "break."


What imo is a huge stretch is thinking it's suspicious that they worried about hot car deaths and that's how Cooper died. It would seem negligent of them to NOT worry about the possibility. Should Ross have used whatever system that day to prevent it happening? Sure . Did the fact that he didn't make him guilty of criminal negligence, much less of murder? Don't think so.

Some coincidences or discrepancies or suspicious behaviors:
1. Just happened to stop taking daily photos of Cooper a couple weeks before incident. (I don't believe anything his ex says).
2. Ross watched a news report just recently about a guy who became an advocate after leaving his kid in a hot car, and as a result of the video, Ross has been turning and looking behind him at the car seat so he won't forget Copper, "because the worst fear of me is leaving my son in a hot car." He just coincidentally happened not to turn and "look again" that particular day. (I re watched the tape. Those were his exact words. It WAS his "worst" fear).
3. In addition to watching the news report about the man turned advocate who left his kid in the car, and having that impact him enough that he started to look behind him so he wouldn't forget Cooper, he also, right before Cooper died, watched a video of a vet showing exactly how hot it gets for dogs in the car. He watched the whole thing. And then left his son in the car shortly after.
4. The day before Cooper died, LH texted, “Don’t forget Cooper.” Answer, “NEVER.”
5. Typically doesn't go into Chik-fil-A to eat. Uses the drive-thru. Just happened to do so that day with his son, conveniently getting him on camera that morning. (Ross was a regular but the worker who helped him had never met Cooper before. Ross stated he usually went through the drive thru, which, by the way, would make it more believable that he had forgotten Cooper as opposed to actually taking him out of the car seat and interacting in the restaurant with him).
6. Often buys CFA for the workers at the daycare. Coincidentally did not order food for them that day.
7. Even though he usually calls the daycare when he's running late, he didn't that day, despite being quite late.
8. Cooper was wide awake when exiting the restaurant, but just happened to fall instantly asleep while parked in his car seat in the parking lot, before even driving off and stayed deeply asleep for the next six minutes. Cooper just happened to say nothing and made no noise the moment he was placed in the car. This is despite the fact that Ross stated that Cooper falls asleep real easily when you drive the car. Not when he's sitting in a parked car, not moving, which some feel happened for a few minutes before Ross left the parking lot.
9. He forgot his son in either a couple minutes after strapping him in tightly and kissing him or less than a minute after doing so. Protestations to the contrary, Cooper is not a cup of coffee. And I don't believe Ross was lulled into autopilot in a parked car or while driving 40 seconds to a turn. The cases I've read don't indicate something happening that quickly or in that manner.
10. For six to 7 minutes after leaving CFA, Ross didn't see his son although is proximity to the car seat and Cooper's head in that car was incredible. However magically, later that day, he saw his son when making a turn.
11. Despite his defense likely claiming distraction, or maybe exhaustion, Ross Harris has a very detailed, clear memory of every step he took the day Cooper died. So he remembered every damn minute of the day but forgot his son.
12. Ross just happened to park his car that morning, in a manner that involved backing in, but didn’t see his kid as he did so.
13. Communications about kids being at their childcare or getting there are often triggers for parents who accidentally left them in the car. But not for Ross. Not ever for Ross: Text from LH: “Get to work ok?” Wasn’t a trigger, even though the questio had a ‘safety” implication. And could trigger a memory of driving to work and to childcare.
14. He talked about his son at 11:17 a.m - not a trigger.
15. Email about his son? Not a trigger.
16. That day he texted: “When are you getting my buddy?” Not a trigger.
17. He just happened to have to go back to his car that afternoon to put something in it, but instead of putting the item in the back seat as many do, or carefully on the passenger seat, he tossed the fragile items in the front driver’s side, keeping his head above the roof line, and not looking or placing the items.
18. He just happened to coincidentally give some personal info about his plans to a security guard although he had never done so before.
19. He just happened to coincidentally take a longer route to the movies to meet his friends that evening - one that would have him drive by a crowded parking lot where he ‘discovered” his son.
20. A paramedic - not a cop - with no reason to lie, stated Ross showed no emotion when he pronounced the child dead.
21. His son is dead but he can, the very day he died, talk about wanting to be an advocate for hot car death prevention.
22. Ross was nonchalant as video showed, when he went into jail reception after arrest, sat with a relaxed posture and had small talk with another inmate. The day his son died.

These are not all, but some. And while I know there are possible explanations for each, when we find ourselves having to repeatedly contort and stretch to find an explanation as to why not one, not two, not three or four or five or six or seven but multiple coincidences don't add up to anything, I think logic an rationality are slipping a bit.

 

[Hope4More]

I'm not going to bash her, but I still think she could have been a player in all this. Her reactions and comments don't hold true for me, even after her rehearsed explanations. Her behavior on the stand and in the audience during the GJ hearing also didn't work for me. She might just be an odd-ball, but people don't behave the way these 2 did.
not in my world anyway.
MOO

I know it's an inconvenient reality, but LE has cleared Leanna. Sorry.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Who is the witness on stand now? I lost my sound

Michael Baygents, Ross' brother.

 

[Inthedetails]

Me too. I've been thinking he did NOT do it on purpose, but the lightbulbs and movies are really starting to eat away at me today.

The supervisor was a defense witness, but I think she helped the State's case.

Still, I think the state's case leaves reasonable doubt for INTENTIONAL murder. There are still other charges that I think have been proved. jmo

Quoting myself.

The sticky points to me are:

* Lightbulbs
* Movies
* Stating at the police station, so soon after Cooper died, that he could be an advocate for the prevention of hot car deaths

Is that evidence enough to convict someone for intentional murder? I don't think so. But these things to make me wonder if he did intend to leave Cooper to die.

I do think he was responsible for the death, but I'm not quite there that it was intentional. But, these three things are very questionable.

jmo

 

[Zoobiegirl]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdj125 But its still ViSION!!! It's not peripheral blind spot!!



Well of course not. <UnQuote

I'm not understanding the idea of "peripheral blind spot"? Isn't that the reason we have to watch out for blind spots when changing lanes? I try to watch my mirrors on the car doors as well as the rear view mirror and glancing over my shoulder.
I'm not arguing here as to whether he saw him or not, I just don't understand the way "peripheral blind spot" is being used.

 

[katydid23]

He was passed over for promotion, then not hired at CFA. They wanted a house and more kids and both goals had to be put on hold. He had ED.

There was nothing constructive about how he handled any of those failures, but I don't think it is impossible to understand that's what they were, and that the man was depressed, not morphing into a monster capable of murdering his baby.

It showed a distinct pattern of how he dealt with crisis situations. He IGNORED them. He was very passive and just let everything slide. He was in denial, imo.

And that is perhaps how he dealt with Cooper that very stressful day. He just 'ignored' him. Just walked away from him...

 

[blue22]

Michael Baygents, Ross' brother.

Thanks!

This must be hard for his brother. It's staggering the amount of victims in this case.

 

[Jewels53]

Has no one here ever been passed over for a promotion they thought they deserved, in a professional position, that is?

In the professional world being passed over for a promotion is being told you have no future in that place of employment. It really doesn't seem a terribly difficult stretch of the imagination to understand that might be demoralizing, that it doesn't inspire one to work harder, necessarily.

And fwiw, i haven't heard any evidence about why Ross didn't get that promotion. He worked flexible hours . It's standard in IT. And?

I don't agree with that. My husband was passed over many time for promotions, each time he just worked harder to improve himself. He worked for the feds by the way. imo

 

[katydid23]

His brother has a different last name? Is he a half brother?

 

[gitana1]

Because....why, exactly would Leanna want to lie for Ross?

Because her behavior was so incredibly bizarre both at the time she learned of her baby's agonizing death, and after, with odd statements and behaviors at the funeral, etc., that she became a suspect and deeply disliked by the public. She wants to explain away her behavior in a manner that makes sense and won't cause more suspicion or anger. Admitting that she possibly was much more focused on her insecurities and her man than her son, as I believe, and thus was much more concerned about supporting her mate and being on his side, convicting him of her worth and sincerity, than she was about the torturous death of her baby, would not do that.

Makig statments that excuse Ross makes her own behavior less suspect.