Trial - Ross Harris #7

[Hope4More]

As a recent home buyer in their age range, I'll agree to disagree.

Sounded like it was entirely possible on paper for them to afford a new house, but that isn't the point. Ross wanted to go ahead, Leanna didn't. As she explained, she was hesitant in large part because they had been caught in a bind before, depending upon having to sell their house in a buyer's market, etc. She sounds cautious financially.

 

[monkeypants]

Man awesome job by boring with this witness!!!!!!

 

[matou]

on break

 

[TexMex]

I'm taking it you don't remember the context. It is one of the most revealing moments of the trial, imo, as Stoddard, all by his lonesome, laid bare his personal animosity and bias towards RH.

I have a good memory. IMO the defense is using the old standby of "bias" to deflect the attention away from their client.
I don't think it will sit well with the jury JMO

 

[catpatrol]

Im speaking as a real estate broker who has personally sold over 600 homes. Not to mention the sales of my colleagues. I'm licensed in two states and do market research nationally for trends.​

I guess I don't see your point... What do you think is the relevancy of the Harris family not feeling ready to buy a house? Surely you know there is much more expense associated with purchasing a home than just the down payment?

 

[Hope4More]

Boring......making each churchgoer respond to specific questions about sex in order to restate his Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde narrative.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Man awesome job by boring with this witness!!!!!!

Chuck Boring cross-examines Michael Simmons. Simmons tells him he and some friends were on a 10-over layover in Atlanta when they got together with Harris for a few hours. This was on June 7.

Boring: You've known the defendant since 2000, is that correct?

Simmons: Correct.

Boring: So you haven't lived in the same area in close proximity to the defendant in 11 years?

Simmons: Not since 2005.

Boring: Would you agree that he (Ross) was loud ... and that he wanted to impress people.

Simmons agrees, although he describes Harris as "pretty confident" and not much concerned with what people thought of him.

Simmons says he was unaware that Harris had been sexting underage girls. Nor did he know Harris was consorting with prostitutes. Says he wouldn't describe Harris as a "big risk taker."

Boring points out that Harris was taking enormous risks. "That would not be in line with the Ross that I know." Simmons says.



Simmons finishes his testimony, and Judge Mary Staley Clark sends the jury out the midmorning break.

 

[just the facts pls]

Let me guess ... this witness is going to say Harris was a great father and on cross, he's not going to know anything about Ross' "double life".

*sigh*

If I found a friend had been sexting underage minors, they wouldn't be my friend anymore.

Interesting how this guy sympathizes with JRH and thinks JRH just needs help, but says nothing about the teenagers JRH used and continued prowling around for.

"What about the poor perverts?"

 

[Angelonline]

I guess I don't see your point... What do you think is the relevancy of the Harris family not feeling ready to buy a house? Surely you know there is much more expense associated with purchasing a home than just the down payment?

We were discussing priorities. It shows immaturity IMO. They supposedly wanted their son in a good school district. But instead were taking and planning vacations. To me a permanent home and a good school for a child is far more important than frivolous travel. There would still be plenty of time for vacations after their home purchase.

 

[DeDee]

Next witness: Michael Simmons of Baton Rouge, La. Says he and Harris met in 2000 at a high school Bible study in Tuscaloosa, Ala., where both lived at the time.

Simmons says he and Harris became close friends, often hanging out together. He says he spent nearly every day with Harris that summer. Harris was setting up displays for Coca-Cola, he says; Simmons had just graduated from high school, and Harris and his roommate let him move in for a couple of months.

Harris was a year or two older. He was a groomsman at Ross and Leanna's wedding.

Michael Simmons has been my favorite Defense witness. He made me feel something that all of the others had not. MS was very sincere and authentic.

JRH left a long and wide trail of betrayal in his wake. JRH did out hang out with IT for dummies. Do not underestimate Harris' IQ.

 

[catpatrol]

We were discussing priorities. It shows immaturity IMO. They supposedly wanted their son in a good school district. But instead were taking and planning vacations. To me a permanent home and a good school for a child is far more important than frivolous travel. There would still be plenty of time for vacations after their home purchase.

The kid wasn't even 2. They still had time. Staying in an apartment would allow them to save money.

 

[blue22]

Boring......making each churchgoer respond to specific questions about sex in order to restate his Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde narrative.

Should he not ask questions to refute what the defense is presenting, because they go to church? I get that you don't like him...but it is his job...

 

[arkansasmimi]

I believe at court on the big TV I saw a pic of the car door open as if you were about to get in and I saw the top of the car seat big as day. I dont see how he could have miised Cooper standing or sitting in the car by the looks of it to me. Im just at a loss. I dont want to belive anyone would be so cruel to let a child die so slowly and so horribly.

I missed the 1st week of trial so I speed watched the 1st week or so then I had to go to town several days and missed more. I tried catching up and have many hours of but stting trial watching and I still missed some things, what I have seen IMO there is still no smoking gun that the act was intentional.

Also I am confused as to if intentional is even necessary to get the convictions the state wants. Let's say for argument sake they proved 100% he did not mean to do this, then what ? Would he still be convicted of some of the cruelity charges?? I know he may be busted for the underage texts.

seeing it presented as it was is not the same as standing beside the car for 5 seconds as has been testified to as total transaction time, RH is 6'2 and did not move his head below the roof level. Different that would be different that day vs what we know and what we are looking for to see what could see. JMHO
(points made a couple times in court room.. where CSI Shumpert was asked to step off stand and asked what he saw when he walked in going to witness stand. What he did or didn't notice) jmho

 

[arkansasmimi]

Should he not ask questions to refute what the defense is presenting, because they go to church?

Fair question. And I think should be asked, because of the charges.

 

[rob]

I have a good memory. IMO the defense is using the old standby of "bias" to deflect the attention away from their client.
I don't think it will sit well with the jury JMO

If I'm on the jury, sitting there thinking this SOB did it on purpose, and the defense is saying the detective is biased, I have a problem with the attorney, because I would take it as he was saying anyone who thought he did it was just biased against him. (does that make sense?)

 

[rob]

I guess I don't see your point... What do you think is the relevancy of the Harris family not feeling ready to buy a house? Surely you know there is much more expense associated with purchasing a home than just the down payment?

I really don't think is was about the down payment. I think it was more the same reason they had decided not to get pregnant again at this time, cause the marriage was not going well.
MOO

 

[Angelonline]

The kid wasn't even 2. They still had time. Staying in an apartment would allow them to save money.

By planning expensive vacations? Illogical, IMO.
This wasn't a huge argument of mine btw just an observation, another piece to the puzzle about the mindset of RH.

 

[Bently]

Thank you to the person that mentioned that you could do two times the speed when you are watching YouTube to catch up!

I have never done that in the settings, but I just did this morning at 1.25 speed!

I learn so much here.

:tyou:

 

[JerseyGirl]

If I'm on the jury, sitting there thinking this SOB did it on purpose, and the defense is saying the detective is biased, I have a problem with the attorney, because I would take it as he was saying anyone who thought he did it was just biased against him. (does that make sense?)

If I were on the jury, I'd say he was guilty of all counts because the only defense the defense is aiming towards is that the police didn't do their job right. Say what?!?

 

[TexMex]

We were discussing priorities. It shows immaturity IMO. They supposedly wanted their son in a good school district. But instead were taking and planning vacations. To me a permanent home and a good school for a child is far more important than frivolous travel. There would still be plenty of time for vacations after their home purchase.

I agree. For example a 3.5% down payment on a $200,000 home (average single family home price in Atlanta IIRC) is $7000
Ross spent $375 on one hooker (there may have been others as well). That's over 5% of the $7,000 the family needs for a home for his son