Trial - Ross Harris #7

[DeDee]

Kilgore didn't volunteer. He was hired.

My apologies, without time and really low on desire for locating links to support it, att, I tend to recall Kilgore coming on board as Defense Attorney differently. My memory is that he approached the court first and it's not that Kilgore was sought out specifically by the court. It is of little consequence in the big scheme, as long as JRH receives competent defense of the very serious charges against him.

 

[Bently]

Katy, we've discussed this so much, and really, I put aside what made sense to me to try to interpret the double life evidence the way you do, to see if I reached the same conclusions.

I just don't see it the way you do. I see a deeply insecure and very emotionally immature man who chose despicable ways of making himself feel better, at the expense of his wife.

I don't think any of those choices nullify his separate love for Cooper, nor do I think they made him capable of murdering Cooper, nor did the fact he hid his despicable choices from his friends, all of whom , btw, seem to be observant, committed Christians.

For those that are not familiar with Chick-fil-A, it is a private company in Atlanta and WELL known for their stated company purpose...

" To glorify God by being a faithful Steward of all that is entrusted to us and to have a positive influence on all who come into contact with Chick-fil-A"

Bet ya you won't find many corporations that state that is their primary purpose!

It has a very deep and compelling and strong religious base, and those that are attracted to be highed there usually are of the same feelings

:moo:

 

[GA_Peach]

The Def has Dr. Bhushan Agharkar a forensic psychiatrist in Atlanta, Georgia. He received his medical degree from State University of New York Upstate Medical University and has been in practice between 11-20 years. (Google)

After watching the pretrial hearing, I wonder what part of his testimony will be deemed admissable.

That is perhaps exactly why the defense wanted the etc. charges severed from the death of Cooper - because many people will not differentiate the two, that they will assume they must be related vs. logically *are* they related and cannot fathom how other people can see that they are two very different things.

Of the 12 people on the jury I think that one of them perhaps has an association with somebody who has a sexual addiction and could vote Yes for the charges for the child pronography excetera but will not attach that to the murder charges deliberations.

:moo:

I don't believe that sexting and a hot car death are intrinsically linked. However, I believe that they are linked in this case. Instead of giving himself a chance to remember Cooper, Ross sexted while Cooper was suffering and dying in the car. Sexting is what the defendant was doing while Cooper's death was happening. I cannot unlink these two actions in this case.

At first I was not convinced that Ross actually visited the prostitute because of the transposed number and shaky memory of a prostitute.

But the defense has thereafter conceded that he did visit a prostitute, at least on that one occasion.

Agreed. The DT questioned the phone number, and then they conceded the point. Leanna testified yesterday that she was told by the DT that Ross visited a prostitute. This morning one of the DT attorneys stated Ross had visited a prostitute. Strategically, I wonder why they conceded the point. Personally, I was skeptical about that encounter.

 

[Jinkasaurus]

So the prosecution said that RH went to glory holes today? (Haven't watched it yet)

I don't understand how that would be permissible to say. A glory hole is a very specific thing. Its not the same as meeting a prostitute, or even meeting another man for sex.

 

[DeDee]

Also re: national attention, Kilgore has consistently tried to keep the media out of this case and does not seem to be relishing the attention at all. Has he spoken at all with the media, ever regarding this case? I think MAYBE a press conference or two right around the time of the probable cause hearing, but he certainly hasn't seemed like he was doing this for the attention.

Thank you for pointing this out for I know it to be true. Never thought nor wrote that Kilgore did this for the daily nat'l attention. He is not self-seeking. Kilgore took it because this is where his expertise lies as he feels he can adequately defend this particular client. I doubt that in the very beginning that Kilgore was aware of the extent of JRHs illicit activities. It does not matter. Kilgore is equipped.

 

[dizzychick]

JRH missed his calling, he should have been an actor, he could have given Will Farrell a run for his money LOL

 

[dizzychick]

Thank you for pointing this out for I know it to be true. Never thought nor wrote that Kilgore did this for the daily nat'l attention. He is not self-seeking. Kilgore took it because this is where his expertise lies as he feels he can adequately defend this particular client. I doubt that in the very beginning that Kilgore was aware of the extent of JRHs illicit activities. It does not matter. Kilgore is equipped.

equipped lol you read my mind lol

 

[Hope4More]

Maybe she is afraid that if she implicates him, she implicates herself. She is well aware she was a suspect and that her behavior was bizarre to say the least. Supporting this theory keeps her neck off the chopping block imo

LE went after Leanna for months. I'm very sure that nothing would have pleased Stoddard more than finding even a few orts of "evidence" that he could use to build a case against Leanna. He found nothing.

Leanna is not a suspect. Leanna is not a suspect. Leanna is not a suspect.

 

[just the facts pls]

JRH missed his calling, he should have been an actor, he could have given Will Farrell a run for his money LOL

Interesting you mention Will Farrell - that is who one of the cops compared JRH to when she arrived at the scene:

[video=youtube;FwXD0hCvtX4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXD0hCvtX4[/video]

 

[DaleTray]

When did RH go to a "glory hole"? I've noticed that term showed up here a few pages back, and now keeps getting repeated.

IIRC, a woman on the stand mentioned that he told her had met a man for sexual purposes while on a vacation. But I haven't heard anything about him going to a glory hole.

GH was made mention from one of the women RH was sexting with. I think it may have been the one that RH texted "I almost got laid this morning" or "I almost got oral this morning" then shortly thereafter RH texted something along the lines of " I know where there is a GH and I may just go there".

 

[blue22]

Yeah, about that glory hole.

I was stunned when Mr. Boring came out with that in court today.

I'm still not sure what to say about it.

I'm thinking I don't have to say anything, though. It speaks for itself.

I seriously didn't know what that meant and instead of thinking about it for a while and using common sense..I googled.

Do not do this people. :scared:

 

[Hope4More]

GH was made mention from one of the women RH was sexting with. I think it may have been the one that RH texted "I almost got laid this morning" or "I almost got oral this morning" then shortly thereafter RH texted something along the lines of " I know where there is a GH and I may just go there".

Wait . I missed that . The entire basis for the belief Ross had sex with a man is Ms Meadows the Motive saying Ross had used the term "glory hole" to describe a potential encounter? Seriously?

 

[Maisiebelle]

I prefer this definition!

Glory Hole:

noun

1. informal
an untidy room or cupboard used for storage.

2. NORTH AMERICAN
an open quarry.

 

[PaperDoll]

Yet LH still after all that he did to her, maintains that it was an accident the reason her only child is dead. To me that gives weight.

I understand Leanna doesn't want to believe her husband would do such a thing to their son. I believe when Ross was with his family, he was able to act accordingly. When he was living his other side, he acted accordingly. Could he flip flop? I believe he can and I also believe he is capable of deceiving others and that includes his wife. Leanna didn't know the extent of his behavior, she saw a loving dad to Cooper, but look what happened. Ross, IMO, must have had thoughts about getting rid of Cooper, I believe he was in the way. No one wants to believe their spouse would kill their child and yet it does happen. I would think it strange if Leanna doesn't think that Ross may have done this on purpose, it would have to cross her mind unless she is in such strong denial..

 

[just the facts pls]

I seriously didn't know what that meant and instead of thinking about it for a while and using common sense..I googled.

Do not do this people. :scared:

I remember someone making a gross joke about it when I was in high school. I didn't think it was real.

When Mr. Boring mentioned it, I was like "people actually DO that stuff?" :facepalm:

 

[blue22]

Wait . I missed that . The entire basis for the belief Ross had sex with a man is Ms Meadows the Motive saying Ross had used the term "glory hole" to describe a potential encounter? Seriously?

This is the first I'm hearing about this. I thought 2 (that I remember) witnesses said RH told them he slept with a man. I do not remember which ones, but I think one was a 19 year old.

 

[dizzychick]

Yeah the fact that the money is guaranteed is nice, sure, but the hourly rate is crap.

I am SO thankful my boss rarely accepts payment plans. I hate trying to chase people down to pay.

and this is yet another reason why I do not believe in the jury system or our legal system as a whole, you are incouraged to plea, the lawyer at least the guys I worked for ran those cases in like a heard of cattle at 450 a head, " his plea is guilty your honor" over and over.

If they were self pay and the client still owed, well: " so sorry the court is full and too busy, let's reset your case", this buys time to get your fee.- what a racket

 

[ERRN1313]

Just curious if anyone followed the Sheri, Garrett and Gavin Coleman case? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?362-Sheri-Garrett-and-Gavin-Coleman Loving husband, beautiful wife, adorable children. Picture after picture of the perfect family. Prestigious job with Joyce Meyer Ministries. A great family man, in fact, a great guy all around. Wife and children murdered by an intruder, devistated when he found the bodies. BUT, girlfriend on the side, didn't want a family anymore but unable to divorce because of the religious job... It happens.

 

[JerseyGirl]

... Robledo said she also met Harris on the social app Whisper and began a friendship. She testified that they met up in the summer of 2013 to have sex at his apartment. After that they allegedly kept up an online friendship.

She also testified that Harris told her he hooked up with a man while on vacation in 2014. He [told] me [he met] that man on the Whisper app also.

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/r...ad-relations-with-a-man-on-vacation/336957148

bbm

 

[dizzychick]

Interesting you mention Will Farrell - that is who one of the cops compared JRH to when she arrived at the scene:

[video=youtube;FwXD0hCvtX4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXD0hCvtX4[/video]

OMG this is sooo him Piper was right on the money LOL LOL