Trial - Ross Harris #7

[blue22]

Witness just made such an important point. No one would expect such disastrous results from staying up late. Boring needs to know when to stop.

I thought he made himself look silly. He didn't choose to be tired? OK...sure. And he was unaware that Ross said he was tired 12 hours after Cooper was left in the car?

 

[monkeypants]

The state actually did a pretty good job right there.

This witness was a little silly.

Point on. Fabulous cross...

 

[popsicle]

How frequently did JRH shave his beard? Not shaving that morning, when he obviously had ample time, is interesting to me. I wouldn't want my mug taken without being clean shaven. However, the prostitute described him as being dumpy and insinuated he was unclean and unkept so it may not bother JRH. He looks haggard this morning.

He looks worse today than he has all trial imo

 

[minor4th]

Judge needs to check her attitude and comments towards defense counsel in front of the jury

 

[Cinnalauda]

Judge needs to check her attitude and comments towards defense counsel in front of the jury

I missed that, listening at work. What did she say?

 

[matou]

Witness done and jury on lunch break

 

[JerseyGirl]

He looks worse today than he has all trial imo

I agree...

http://www.myajc.com/gallery/news/local/ross-harris-trial-photos-nov-3/gCdTS/

 

[arkansasmimi]

Stoddard is back in courtroom

 

[rob]

Kilgore finished by saying that "all of this means nothing and he just forgot because he forgot."

So the testimony of his own witness means nothing?

Interesting.


Now Brewer is saying JRH isn't responsible for his own memory loss, only moments after agreeing that JRH chose to stay up late instead of getting sleep.

If I was on this jury, I'd be putting this testimony in the 'big waste of time' bucket.
MOO

 

[arkansasmimi]

Kilgore I think we are going to need to approach

 

[blue22]

Something was off about this testimony. Maybe Kilgore was off, the witness didn't fully understand what to get at, I don't know...it was just off. I wonder if the defense is happy about how that went for them. I don't know how I'd feel about that guy if I were on the jury. It's like he explained everything and nothing at the same time. It didn't feel like it mattered.

:thinking:

 

[rob]

I thought he made himself look silly. He didn't choose to be tired? OK...sure. And he was unaware that Ross said he was tired 12 hours after Cooper was left in the car?

RH is a grown a$$ man.
When you stay up half the night, night after night, knowing you have to go to work, you just made a dumb a$$ decision. And you don't get an automatic exemption from everything you did wrong because of it.

 

[byo]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago

#RossHarris - Scheduling: Court in session half-day Tuesday - Election Day. No court next Friday, the 11th - Veteran's Day.

 

[matou]

If anything, this expert helps me maintain my personal opinion about how mysterious memory is and how it is not well understood at all. I have a minor in psychology and my prof always maintained that many experts were seeing evidence for memory being "everywhere at once."

 

[just the facts pls]

Something was off about this testimony. Maybe Kilgore was off, the witness didn't fully understand what to get at, I don't know...it was just off. I wonder if the defense is happy about how that went for them. I don't know how I'd feel about that guy if I were on the jury. It's like he explained everything and nothing at the same time. It didn't feel like it mattered.

:thinking:

That is my impression also. His entire testimony can be summed up thus: "For the most part memory is good, but sometimes it fails." But we knew that already.

Brewer is supposed to be able to explain in a concise way what led to JRH's memory failure, and turns out he knows next to nothing about this case, isn't aware of the timeline leading to Cooper's death and is completely unaware of JRH's lifestyle and habits. How in the world can he explain anything or even talk about FBS when he wasn't aware of how this case differs from the rest of them?

On one hand, I like him because he seems to be the most genuine and honest defense witness to date. On the other, he repeatedly contradicts himself then bombs out by trying to say that JRH didn't have a choice whether to be negligent. This goes against everything we know about child neglect cases where the parent's drug use or bad choices led to injury or death of a child. His expertise is supposed to be memory, not law. The law firmly disagrees.

(Although, I still think JRH intentionally left Cooper in the car.)

 

[minor4th]

RH is a grown a$$ man.
When you stay up half the night, night after night, knowing you have to go to work, you just made a dumb a$$ decision. And you don't get an automatic exemption from everything you did wrong because of it.

Dumb decision, yes, but criminal negligence?

Also wonder if we will have any testimony about Ross having difficulty sleeping. He clearly had very little sleep in the several days leading up to the 18th. Of course that's going to affect his memory and his ability to function.

 

[blue22]

If anything, this expert helps me maintain my personal opinion about how mysterious memory is and how it is not well understood at all. I have a minor in psychology and my prof always maintained that many experts were seeing evidence for memory being "everywhere at once."

I tell you, I admire anyone who studies psychology. It's so much in the abstract. I would find that incredibly frustrating, but I'm thankful for people in that field.

 

[arkansasmimi]

RH is a grown a$$ man.
When you stay up half the night, night after night, knowing you have to go to work, you just made a dumb a$$ decision. And you don't get an automatic exemption from everything you did wrong because of it.

I agree. But we also do not know what else he was doing. We do know that he had been working on the HD project because witness Mr. Brown said he had to have been to be able to compose the email as he did. His computers should have shown what he was working on. The computer Lavonex? unsure the correct spelling, that was his work computer iirc. We only have bits and pieces of time lines. Just like when Boring was giving times he was up late the nights prior. As a sleuther, we would want all those times to make a timeline. To put things into proper perspective. JMHO. We have only been given times that were what State wanted us to know. I started a few times doing the minute by minute times that we have and OMG lol JMHO there was more going on than just sexting as it was made out to be. Not giving a pass but saying that is not the full picture.

Just like Stoddard out right lying at the PC Hearing of no text messages between LH and RH. That has been proven factually a lie. But back to your post, he could very well been up working on projects (HD,and his side business and sexting and whatever) still would be fatigued no matter what was doing. JMHO

 

[Hope4More]

Witness just made such an important point. No one would expect such disastrous results from staying up late. Boring needs to know when to stop.

I had to leave at 11. What's your overall take on how well this witness did? He was barely rating a "meh" when I left. Did Boring draw blood?

 

[TexMex]

Was found on RH phone, computer?