Trial - Ross Harris #7

[arkansasmimi]

The male hook up was apparently from a vacation so possibly not from the US?

Or someone that was posting on the Whisper/Kiks/Scout apps? Male hook up on vacation not sure if it was when went to Ft Walton Beach or Dom Republic. Or if it was just something he was BS about.

 

[blue22]

LOL I just know I haven't written anything down about "men" except that time the witness said that. I gonna assume that there is much we don't know but this just struck me as something that they would have been throwing out all along, especially since the State new words "dark side".

Maybe they are saving it for cross examination, thought I don't know why. It does seem like they'd want that info out there fr their narrative.

 

[cricket49]

IMO (and I know you didn't ask me, lol) he didn't help either side. I don't think his testimony ended up mattering, at all.

Agree. This witness seemed more like a people pleaser and would flip to either side.

 

[GA_Peach]

The male hook up was apparently from a vacation so possibly not from the US?

CB has been referencing sexting with men, not a sexual encounter. I have no recollection of male sexting evidence.

 

[Hope4More]

Probably a draw.

I thought that there were several things this witness said that pointed to negligence on Ross's part. The exchange at the end where the witness fiercely denied that any of Ross's actions could contribute to his fatigue revealed his clear bias for the DT.

I didn't see anything that helped Ross.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that last part especially, because I'm not understanding how choosing to stay awake virtually all night (for any reason) (including watching the Cubs win the World Series- YAY!!) "couldn't" contribute to his fatigue. Eh??

And, I'd expect an expert witness hired by the defense to favor whatever argument the defense is trying to advance, but if the takeaway is he sounded blantantly biased, maybe the dude needs to brush up on his presentation skills.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Maybe they are saving it for cross examination, thought I don't know why. It does seem like they'd want that info out there fr their narrative.

But the State has already put on their case in chief. The Rebuttal I though was only to put on State witnesses in rebuttal to the Def witnesses. ** This is one reason why the Def was wanting that discovery that they hadn't gotten about Stoddard meeting with FBI BAU. Wonder if they got their info?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Probably a draw.

I thought that there were several things this witness said that pointed to negligence on Ross's part. The exchange at the end where the witness fiercely denied that any of Ross's actions could contribute to his fatigue revealed his clear bias for the DT.

There were seversl things that this witness said that pointed to this not being a memory failure.

I didn't see anything that helped Ross.

Imo.

Ross has shown negligence of not giving a crap ever since we found out that he messaged his supervisor about missing the deadline at 12 midnight. But he stayed up while still sexting and made up his mind that he will not get to work on time.

So it's obvious that Ross was aborting his job for whatever reason.

But why forget your son but remember to continue texting and going through your work day as if you don't plan on getting fired?

Was Ross that good at his job that he knew he wasn't getting fired that day?

Or was he smart enough to know that you need so many write-ups before getting fired.

But still. Since he was obviously saying forget the job;

Then why didn't he atleast remember his son .

So imo. He definitely is guilty for either involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide Plus the sexting with minors.

So imo. The judge can still give him 30 years in prison if they want to.


So I'm only mad that the trial is still going because the state wanted to focus on murder 1 while not just simply proving the basic collective charges of negligence and child sexting and involuntary manslaughter.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Thanks. I'll have to watch that last part especially, because I'm not understanding how choosing to stay awake virtually all night (for any reason) (including watching the Cubs win the World Series- YAY!!) "couldn't" contribute to his fatigue. Eh??

And, I'd expect an expert witness hired by the defense to favor whatever argument the defense is trying to advance, but if the takeaway is he sounded blantantly biased, maybe the dude needs to brush up on his presentation skills.

Times that Boring thru out:
Sun 6/15
1:38am
4:06-4:09am
7 am "going to be 15 min late"

Monday 6/16
3:32am
4:08am
7:10am
11:09pm snapchat

Tues 6/17
12:48 am * prior testimony
3:30am
4:18am
7:42am

6/18
12:30am email to Mr Brown

5:30 Cooper wakes up
7:40 *prior testimony
8:16 *prior testimony
8:46 prior testimony
8:48 prior testimony
8:49 prior testimony
9:00 CF Prior testimony
9:18 left CF prior testimony
** Just flipped through a few pages looking at times not all

Boring said looks like on 6/18 he got more sleep that morning
Brewer: yes, probably because he was fatigue right

He had to have been worn out that morning knowing that we know he was up late night of 6/17-6/18. He sent the email to Mr. Brown about 12:30 (time given today) then the other searches/senting/texting/emails to travel agent... then hand full from 7:40 thru CF. :scared:

 

[SuperTmo]

I'm so behind now! I had to take my kiddo to school. I missed the cross of the first memory guy (Brewer?) and everything since he was on the stand! Dang it!

 

[blue22]

But the State has already put on their case in chief. The Rebuttal I though was only to put on State witnesses in rebuttal to the Def witnesses. ** This is one reason why the Def was wanting that discovery that they hadn't gotten about Stoddard meeting with FBI BAU. Wonder if they got their info?

I didn't think about that.

The texting men stuff seems even more arbitrary. It seems silly to throw it in there with no explanation. Maybe they did get their info.

 

[Hope4More]

Times that Boring thru out:
Sun 6/15
1:38am
4:06-4:09am
7 am "going to be 15 min late"

Monday 6/16
3:32am
4:08am
7:10am
11:09pm snapchat

Tues 6/17
12:48 am * prior testimony
3:30am
4:18am
7:40 *prior testimony
7:42am
8:16 *prior testimony
8:46 prior testimony
8:48 prior testimony
8:49 prior testimony
9:00 CF Prior testimony
9:18 left CF prior testimony
** Just flipped through a few pages looking at times not all

Boring said looks like on 6/18 he got more sleep that morning
Brewer: yes, probably because he was fatigue right

He had to have been worn out that morning knowing that we know he was up late night of 6/17-6/18. He sent the email to Mr. Brown about 12:30 (time given today) then the other searches/senting/texting/emails to travel agent... then hand full from 7:40 thru CF. :scared:

Thanks. I assume times here indicate texting or online searches by RH?

 

[blue22]

I'm so behind now! I had to take my kiddo to school. I missed the cross of the first memory guy (Brewer?) and everything since he was on the stand! Dang it!

That's all you missed and it wasn't much to miss, IMO. It was a good time for you to be be busy, lol.

 

[DaleTray]

Or someone that was posting on the Whisper/Kiks/Scout apps? Male hook up on vacation not sure if it was when went to Ft Walton Beach or Dom Republic. Or if it was just something he was BS about.

Pun intended? Dom Replub

 

[just the facts pls]

I'm so behind now! I had to take my kiddo to school. I missed the cross of the first memory guy (Brewer?) and everything since he was on the stand! Dang it!

Boring did a good job on cross exam. We found out the defense didn't disclose enough information to Brewer, that Brewer wasn't very familiar with the case, that he wasn't there to tell the jury whether JRH forgot or not, and that his testimony that Cooper's death being just another case of FBS is not true.

I wonder how the jury feels after all this. I know I'm losing my patience for the "forgot" theory since it never made sense in the first place, and neither did this witness' testimony.

 

[arkansasmimi]

We are back.... No other witnesses today per Kilgore.

 

[matou]

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[blue22]

We are back.... No other witnesses today per Kilgore.

Seriously?

 

[matou]

No more witnesses???? come on....

 

[arkansasmimi]

Possibility the Def will rest tomorrow before noon

 

[blue22]

Wait...they could be done with arguments on Monday? Did I hear that right?