Trial - Ross Harris #8

[gitana1]

So why do you suppose he was all the way on board, at least through August 2016? There is no evidence I'm aware of that wasn't know yet by the DT, and Diamond had 2 full years to fully familiarize himself with RH's case.

If it's true he will only come on board if he believes the death was accidental, then he believed that at least until August 2016, and seemingly committed to testifying at trial.


I just don't find it plausible that a credible expert witness bailed at the last minute because he got delicate about maintaining his reputation.

Good points. I don't know. Maybe they didn't tell him everything in enough detail. He could've been watching. I mean there was a a lot from the other doctor indicating he didn't know the case as well as we do.

 

[monkeypants]

I thought Diamond was brought up on direct too? Otherwise he wouldn't be able to be questioned about him on cross

I think the witness himself brought him up...wasn't it within the context of all that grandfather mentor thing?

 

[katydid23]

So why do you suppose he was all the way on board, at least through August 2016? There is no evidence I'm aware of that wasn't know yet by the DT, and Diamond had 2 full years to fully familiarize himself with RH's case.

If it's true he will only come on board if he believes the death was accidental, then he believed that at least until August 2016, and seemingly committed to testifying at trial.


I just don't find it plausible that a credible expert witness bailed at the last minute because he got delicate about maintaining his reputation.

BBM

That is what makes the most sense to me so far. This man makes his living by maintaining that sterling reputation. And he is wholeheartedly devoted to his support 'team' of FBS clients. They have an organization that devotes all their time and energy towards saving kids from this fate. And to do so, they band together and do press junkets and community events. They speak glowingly about each other, and Dr Diamond speaks fondly and respectfully about his team. He vouches for their integrity and honesty and they are the PROOF of his theory on FBS.

Ross would rock that entire boat, imo. He would taint it and possibly bring some doubt to the others veracity. I really don't think any of them wanted Ross to be included in their 'club.' Note that none of the support team went to this trial. But they have attended many other trials in support of strangers defending themselves from hot car death charges. But no one came to support Ross.

 

[Hope4More]

You got all of that from me saying that I believe the seed was planted in Ross's head when he watched the hot pet video 5 days before Cooper's death? In fact, Ross himself linked poor Cooper to that video.



Exactly.



Exactly again.

"All that" was a description of the legal peril RH faced at that moment . To be more succinct, then. What I didn't get, and don't get, is why anyone thinks it's logical for a child killer to voluntarily offer up that he had specific knowledge about how to kill his baby in exactly the manner in which his baby died.

To me that would be equivalent to someone being questioned for a murder by knife chatting with LE about his extensive knife collection. Maybe I'm obtuse, but I just don't understand the reasoning.

 

[katydid23]

"All that" was a description of the legal peril RH faced at that moment . To be more succinct, then. What I didn't get, and don't get, is why anyone thinks it's logical for a child killer to voluntarily offer up that he had specific knowledge about how to kill his baby in exactly the manner in which his baby died.

To me that would be equivalent to someone being questioned for a murder by knife chatting with LE about his extensive knife collection. Maybe I'm obtuse, but I just don't understand the reasoning.

Ross is very chatty. Which is why his wife asked if he talked too much.

If he had purposely walked away from that car, knowing his child was inside...he might have tried to act in a way that it was 'normal' to know about hot car deaths, and fear them like every parent does...as a way to try and make it seem like a total random accident.

 

[DeDee]

Did Kilgore walk out? I don't see him at the defense table.

Kilgore sat with his eyes closed most of the time that he was shown during rebuttal witness' audio of LH/LT.

I noticed JRH's buddy from Baton Rouge was in court all morning. I assume he stayed after lunch, too.

 

[Hope4More]

BBM

That is what makes the most sense to me so far. This man makes his living by maintaining that sterling reputation. And he is wholeheartedly devoted to his support 'team' of FBS clients. They have an organization that devotes all their time and energy towards saving kids from this fate. And to do so, they band together and do press junkets and community events. They speak glowingly about each other, and Dr Diamond speaks fondly and respectfully about his team. He vouches for their integrity and honesty and they are the PROOF of his theory on FBS.

Ross would rock that entire boat, imo. He would taint it and possibly bring some doubt to the others veracity. I really don't think any of them wanted Ross to be included in their 'club.' Note that none of the support team went to this trial. But they have attended many other trials in support of strangers defending themselves from hot car death charges. But no one came to support Ross.

But Diamond KNEW from the beginning that Ross's case was different from others that he typically took on. Ross couldn't have been made sympathetic to the jury by him or anyone else, imo, if for no other reason (and there are many) than his sexual exchanges with a 14 year old.

Diamond had to have known of that as well, again, from the very beginning.

 

[monkeypants]

"All that" was a description of the legal peril RH faced at that moment . To be more succinct, then. What I didn't get, and don't get, is why anyone thinks it's logical for a child killer to voluntarily offer up that he had specific knowledge about how to kill his baby in exactly the manner in which his baby died.

To me that would be equivalent to someone being questioned for a murder by knife chatting with LE about his extensive knife collection. Maybe I'm obtuse, but I just don't understand the reasoning.

Would that be on par with sexting minors, not deleting the evidence (ya know in case he lost his phone or something) and then looking up what happens if he gets caught?

In other words he is an utter moron.

 

[minor4th]

Some interesting Judge Mary Staley trivia:

She was the judge in the Waseem Daker case:

[video=youtube;t9XJHqLqUrU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9XJHqLqUrU[/video]

She was reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to receiving penis-shaped chocolates from jurors between trial and sentencing:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/raunchy_choclate_gifts_in_deat.html

 

[popsicle]

But Diamond KNEW from the beginning that Ross's case was different from others that he typically took on. Ross couldn't have been made sympathetic to the jury by him or anyone else, imo, if for no other reason (and there are many) than his sexual exchanges with a 14 year old.

Diamond had to have known of that as well, again, from the very beginning.

Maybe he did have info Ross disclosed to him that they decided they did not want introduced into evidence or maybe it is r/t to the FBI info.

 

[MsJosie]

From what charges he could be found guilty on....what would be the minimum time served? Will he be a registered sex offender? Thank you.

 

[monkeypants]

"All that" was a description of the legal peril RH faced at that moment . To be more succinct, then. What I didn't get, and don't get, is why anyone thinks it's logical for a child killer to voluntarily offer up that he had specific knowledge about how to kill his baby in exactly the manner in which his baby died.

To me that would be equivalent to someone being questioned for a murder by knife chatting with LE about his extensive knife collection. Maybe I'm obtuse, but I just don't understand the reasoning.

I quote his wife "did you tell them too much"?

 

[Hope4More]

Good points. I don't know. Maybe they didn't tell him everything in enough detail. He could've been watching. I mean there was a a lot from the other doctor indicating he didn't know the case as well as we do.

The felony charges against Ross for sexting with minors, and the felony child charges against him in a pending trial have been been on the docket for many months. What could possibly make Diamond more squeamish than that if this is about his reputation?

Ah. Only one kind of problematic knowledge, maybe, but can't imagine anything specific that would be an absolute deal breaker. Sure wish we knew when he withdrew..

 

[popsicle]

Some interesting Judge Mary Staley trivia:

She was the judge in the Waseem Daker case:



She was reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to receiving penis-shaped chocolates from jurors between trial and sentencing:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/raunchy_choclate_gifts_in_deat.html

I remember this. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/raunchy_choclate_gifts_in_deat.html

 

[monkeypants]

Some interesting Judge Mary Staley trivia:

She was the judge in the Waseem Daker case:

[video=youtube;t9XJHqLqUrU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9XJHqLqUrU[/video]

She was reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to receiving penis-shaped chocolates from jurors between trial and sentencing:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/raunchy_choclate_gifts_in_deat.html

Huh, who knew they sold penis shaped chocolates. Learn something new every day.

 

[minor4th]

Maybe he did have info Ross disclosed to him that they decided they did not want introduced into evidence or maybe it is r/t to the FBI info.

That makes as much sense as anything. Some allegedly knowledgeable "source" tweeted yesterday that Diamond's notes contained things they did not want to turn over the the prosecution .

 

[Hope4More]

The felony charges against Ross for sexting with minors, and the felony child charges against him in a pending trial have been been on the docket for many months. What could possibly make Diamond more squeamish than that if this is about his reputation?

Ah. Only one kind of problematic knowledge, maybe, but can't imagine anything specific that would be an absolute deal breaker. Sure wish we knew when he withdrew..

Though I haven't heard peep on the subject, Dr. A was also being proposed and defended as an expert witness (responses to trauma & shock ) and he too has poofed. Hmm.

 

[minor4th]

Here's a better video about the Waseem Daker case:

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/53696934#53696934

 

[blue22]

Some interesting Judge Mary Staley trivia:

She was the judge in the Waseem Daker case:

[video=youtube;t9XJHqLqUrU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9XJHqLqUrU[/video]

She was reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to receiving penis-shaped chocolates from jurors between trial and sentencing:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/raunchy_choclate_gifts_in_deat.html

After reading the article, I don't see why it was a hubbub. I'm left feeling more confused why a friend sent it to a juror in a trial for the murder and rape of a minor. What an incredible idiot!!!

 

[Hope4More]

That makes as much sense as anything. Some allegedly knowledgeable "source" tweeted yesterday that Diamond's notes contained things they did not want to turn over the the prosecution .

Is there a link to this credible source by any chance?