Trial Thread, May 1, 2012 Defense begins it case in chief

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Crown goes to April 11 statement where grandmom asked about clothing Said she didn't remember color

On April 11th, she was asked detailed questions. She was asked about clothing. Said she couldn't tell what colour the woman's pants were.

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Witness agrees that jacket was white and puffy without stripes. Had three tiers. "A Michelan man jacket," Carnegie explains.

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown questioning witness about specific details she remembered like clothing and distance #sl

 

[Wondergirl]

11:06
RaffertyLFP:

Crown goes to April 11 statement where grandmom asked about clothing Said she didn't remember color [via Twitter]

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:06 RaffertyLFP

11:05
RaffertyLFP:

Grandmom said she remembers dark pants on the woman [via Twitter]

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:05 RaffertyLFP


11:04
RaffertyLFP:

The grandmom said it was a three tier puffy ski jacket too warm for the weather [via Twitter]

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:04 RaffertyLFP


11:03
RaffertyLFP:

Grandmom said it was sunny and warm on April 8 too warm for ski jacket collar on jacket was up

 

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Rafferty is probably thinking.......**** I should've taken the stand. :LOL:

 

[Flowercb]

So... she saw TLM go into school and not come out. Then as she drives away, she sees TLM and Tori walking up the street. Okay - but unless she has something about the parking lot, how does this help? There is video of them walking up the street?

I'm confused. Patience is not one of my virtures.....

Salem

If this lady was leaving as TLM was going in and Tori went back to get her earings, this lady should have been long gone out of that parking lot before these two were walking up the road. MOO!!!!

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Witness said woman was wearing dark pants. Carnegie points out she told police in '09 she couldn't say what colour the pants were.

 

[Jezbel]

Well I don't see an 'ah-ha' moment by the defense, IMO they really had nothing to discredit TLM's testimony. The one witness they called, well we all know about eyewitness accounts, in her police statement in 2009 she was 2 bus lengths away, and now she was one, hmm not the most reliable witness. Obviously there was no-one else fro him to call, says a lit when none of MR's family have been there in court and we come to find out it's not because they were going to be testifying, if I thought my son/brother/cousin etc was innocent I would be there to support them.

So what if it was TLM that walked into the school, we know she didn't take Tori at that point or the teacher would have seen. The defense has nothing and this shows. JMO

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Grandmom said she did not see white-coat woman walk to Fyfe

Carnegie asks if the dark pants in the video are effecting her memory. She says no. Carnegie asks if she's sure. She says yes.

Witness agrees she never saw the person leave the school. She agrees primary students leave through another door.

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown asks witness if her memory is being affected by watching the surveillance video over and over again. Witness says no #sl

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown seems to be pointing out that witness has better memory now than she did 3 days after Tori's disappearance #sl



BINGO!!

 

[Flowercb]

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Witness agrees that jacket was white and puffy without stripes. Had three tiers. "A Michelan man jacket," Carnegie explains.

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown questioning witness about specific details she remembered like clothing and distance #sl

Coat did not have strips--witness excused, lol!! MOO!

 

[robynhood]

got it from tweeter now....AM980_Court She says the woman in white was "on a mission", little girl was "talking a mile a minute".

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Grandmom said she got more than a "fleeting look" at white coat woman - said she thought it was Tori's mom

One of her grandchildren mentioned the little girl walking with the woman. She only got a "side profile" Carnegie suggested.

She says she was driving slow. She got a good look.

 

[Salem]

So why would Tori be Skipping and smiling if she didnt know this person?

To me, if this is true, it only hurts MR more - if Tori knew TLM, Tori's mother did not know that. That means that TLM was sneaking around TM's back to get to her daughter and to me that means planning. It doesn't mean babysitting. It means they (MR and TLM) were planning this way before it happened and they were working on setting it up.

I'll wait for more - but so far, this is much more harmful than helpful.

Salem

 

[Flowercb]

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown asks witness if her memory is being affected by watching the surveillance video over and over again. Witness says no #sl

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown seems to be pointing out that witness has better memory now than she did 3 days after Tori's disappearance #sl



BINGO!!

Memory problems...well that explains it. MOO

 

[Wondergirl]

Avery Moore‏@AveryFreeFMNews

Carnegie asks witness if watching the surveillance video over and over may have changed her memory. She says no. #Rafferty



Avery Moore‏@AveryFreeFMNews

Witness said woman was wearing dark pants. Carnegie points out she told police in '09 she couldn't say what colour the pants were. #Rafferty

 

[nursebeeme]

RaffertyLFP: Crown goes to April 11 statement where grandmom asked about clothing Said she didn't remember color

On April 11th, she was asked detailed questions. She was asked about clothing. Said she couldn't tell what colour the woman's pants were.

proving her unreliability due to memory

 

[crazyladi]

She had all three years to watch that video over and over again too adding things to her mind knowing that she would have to testify. This witness proved nothing at all.

 

[Flowercb]

RaffertyLFP: Grandmom said she got more than a "fleeting look" at white coat woman - said she thought it was Tori's mom

Now I know why the police thought TM was involved in her daughter's disappearance way back at the beginning. Just because of granny and the drugs.

 

[JayFriend]

Also just because she didnt mention she went in the school she really didnt lie if the question was not asked. There was a lot of missing pieces to her testimony like how she got her to come with her, what she was behaving like in the car etc etc. Sorry this does nothing to change my judgement at all. I really hope there is more to his defence.

All we know so far is what we saw on the TLM interviews and what she said on the stand at this trial. We don't know all she said in court before she was convicted because of the publication ban. One has to believe that the Crown was quite aware of this witness's story. In the end it still does not exonerate MTR as a participant.

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown reminds witness of statements to police where she says it could have been the mom in the white coat #sl