Trial Thread, May 1, 2012 Defense begins it case in chief

[Bravo]

MOO but this testimony was to show why would MTR ever think this was a kidnapping when a bold TLM actually entered the school to snatch a child. Since most child snatchers do it outside of the school. This was purely a case of babysitting as far as MTR was concerned.

 

[Flowercb]

Has anyone tweeted whether MTR family is in the court room today? If they are not calling any more witnesses, they should be allowed to be there if they want to be. MOO

 

[tmhco]

I wonder if MR jotted all this down? WTH was all that note taking about? Am I the only one completely baffled as to why this went to trial? JMO

 

[KMouse]

AM980_Court Derstine has some reexamination, but "wants to run something by" Heeney first. Jury excused....IMO...here we go again...recess..jury leaves..robynhood

Oh no, not another "pop tart" jury.

 

[JayFriend]

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Witness said woman was wearing dark pants. Carnegie points out she told police in '09 she couldn't say what colour the pants were.

I see where the Crown is going with this. The witness had far more details on what "the woman" was wearing in her second interview. The "puffy white coat woman" video must have been show on TV a zillion times after Tori disappeared. Was it shown before the witness's second police interview?

 

[jenniferleia]

I cant believe this is all he had?!?!? It just makes me so angry!!! This poor lady was probably the last one (normal person) to see Tori alive....skipping and happy...my heart hurts so bad. What a rotton witness. Raffertys grave has been dug. JMO

 

[nettie_82]

If TLM was more involved in the actually kidnapping then first thought, it doesn't make the murder any less his fault. Remember the opening when the Crown stated about them acting together? He was still there with TLM and did nothing. Still a murder charge, still life in prision IMO.

 

[Bravo]

Can he do that? Can that happen? Would Derstine acutally do that on purpose??????

NO unless he wants to end his career.

 

[Wondergirl]

Mike Drolet‏@MDroletGlobalTV

Defence witness saw McClintic walk into school. Was tori targeted ? Not random?

 

[LoyalSleuth]

Will we ever know the Defence's story of what happened that day? They didn't give opening statement, will they make a closing statement? Or is that option gone now because they put grandma up on the stand?

 

[Sillybilly]

MOO but this testimony was to show why would MTR ever think this was a kidnapping when a bold TLM actually entered the school to snatch a child. Since most child snatchers do it outside of the school. This was purely a case of babysitting as far as MTR was concerned.

MTR wouldn't have known IF she went into the school ... he was up the street waiting.

 

[Salem]

So, the lone witness for Rafferty, is able to state, on the stand, that basically, she is a hostile witness, and is not happy she is testifying for the defense?

OMG, Derstine, I expected SO MUCH MORE from you. Really, I did.

This is just bizarre.

JMO

There wasn't anything more, though. Anything Derstine did could have been used against his client - and apparently Derstine didn't dare go there. Very interesting!

Salem

 

[Wondergirl]

Curious if he could still go against his lawyer's advice and take the stand before the jury goes into deliberation.

No. My understanding is that if Rafferty is testifying, he has to do so first.

Rafferty will not be taking the stand.

JMO

 

[nettie_82]

Will we ever know the Defence's story of what happened that day? They didn't give opening statement, will they make a closing statement? Or is that option gone now because they put grandma up on the stand?

They can make closing statements, their closing statement will come before the Crown's closing. If Derstine didn't make a closing statement I have to believe this defence would definitely go down in history as the WORST DEFENCE EVER.

 

[Kamille]

MOO but this testimony was to show why would MTR ever think this was a kidnapping when a bold TLM actually entered the school to snatch a child. Since most child snatchers do it outside of the school. This was purely a case of babysitting as far as MTR was concerned.

How would MR know that TLM entered the school? He was hiding at a local gas station waiting for the right time to approach the school so his car would have minimal impact in the area.

MOO

 

[nursebeeme]

does it really matter if they planted the possibility that Tori was targeted or not? All the prosecution has to prove is that MR had a part in what happened to Tori. And I believe they did.

I still don't think this witness can be considered reliable: re: TLM walked into the school. The rest of it: Tori skipping, etc.. of course she was skipping.. she was going to see the puppies.. and had no idea of what evil was coming for her.

moo

 

[nursebeeme]

There wasn't anything more, though. Anything Derstine did could have been used against his client - and apparently Derstine didn't dare go there. Very interesting!

Salem

that is what I am thinking too Salem.. he didn't want to open any doors for cross by the Crown.

And what he had that he felt comfortable with cross was nothing..

 

[Flowercb]

In school video, TLM's hair did not look pulled back, looking like it was down and straight and that's why TM got put under the microscope at the time?? MOO

Wow. Looks like this witness caused more harm than good. They could have closed this case sooner and found Tori sooner if the police were not zeroing in on TM. MOO!

 

[Wondergirl]

11:34
Mike Knoll:
@Louise - yes, things are moving along faster than anticipated.

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:34 Mike Knoll

11:34

[Comment From Louise Louise : ]

Is the proceedings progressing faster than anticipated? I know that it was given an approx. 3 month duration, however the Crown rested in less than 30 days.

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:34 Louise


11:34
Mike Knoll:

@Woodstockguest - an application for a pub ban must be submitted to court. this costs money and time and takes some acumen and organization. The g-friends who were named simply didn't go through this process. I can understand why a woman testifying for the defence wouldn't want her name out there.

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:34 Mike Knoll


11:32

[Comment From WoodstockGuest WoodstockGuest : ]

there can be a publication ban on a grandmother's name but not 17 or 18 girlfriends?

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:32 WoodstockGuest


11:32
Mike Knoll:
@guest - supposed to be 20 minutes.

Tuesday May 1, 2012 11:32 Mike Knoll


11:32

[Comment From Guest Guest : ]

How long is break

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Sorry SB, I couldn't find the original quote.

What is innefective council?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor Bug
I think Derstine's going for ineffective council------------>on appeal

jmo