Trial Thread, May 1, 2012 Defense begins it case in chief

[Bravo]

MTR wouldn't have known IF she went into the school ... he was up the street waiting.

True but i think the defense hopes to show that since TLM did enter the school it was to convince MTR this was all on the up and up. He could have pulled out of that parking lot at anytime to pick up Tori and the babysitter.

 

[brighidin]

Interesting that this information came out now.

In 2009, TM made comments about the school's responsibility towards making sure kids are picked up by parents or authorized people.

It didn't make a lot of sense until now, because TM had said VS was supposed to walk home alone, and the school wouldn't be responsible for that.

But now...........we know that TLM went into the school and got VS out.

Why did TLM lie about that?

Was it because she hiding the fact that she told MR she was looking after VS? Was it because it didn't fit her story of a random abduction? Was VS taken as revenge for something?

Lots of questions opened up with this witness testimony.

JMO..............

We don't know that for a fact. In any case, this poor lady's testimony doesn't negate anything that has been presented by the crown, and the Crown seems to have done a good job making her testimony less credible by inferring that her information became more detailed after viewing the tape.

The only questions this opens up for me are:
WTH is Derstine thinking?
and
Which jail are they going to put MR in since Kingston is closing?
imo

 

[~n/t~]

Does Tara own a white coat? Maybe grandma is confused with the day she saw TLM.

 

[KMouse]

Interesting that this information came out now.

In 2009, TM made comments about the school's responsibility towards making sure kids are picked up by parents or authorized people.

It didn't make a lot of sense until now, because TM had said VS was supposed to walk home alone, and the school wouldn't be responsible for that.

But now...........we know that TLM went into the school and got VS out.

Why did TLM lie about that?

Was it because she hiding the fact that she told MR she was looking after VS? Was it because it didn't fit her story of a random abduction? Was VS taken as revenge for something?

Lots of questions opened up with this witness testimony.

JMO..............

I disagree with you.
How come nobody else has ever come forward placing TLM inside the school?

Even if it were true that Tori was targeted and not chosen at random it does not change the outcome or any of the other circumstances.

 

[CarrieBean]

Interesting that this information came out now.

In 2009, TM made comments about the school's responsibility towards making sure kids are picked up by parents or authorized people.

It didn't make a lot of sense until now, because TM had said VS was supposed to walk home alone, and the school wouldn't be responsible for that.

But now...........we know that TLM went into the school and got VS out.

Why did TLM lie about that?

Was it because she hiding the fact that she told MR she was looking after VS? Was it because it didn't fit her story of a random abduction? Was VS taken as revenge for something?

Lots of questions opened up with this witness testimony.

JMO..............

We don't know that TLM went into the school. One person out of many, in the midst of the teachers and all the other parents/students, who were at the school noticed TLM go into the school? I have doubts that this woman's memory is accurate.

 

[Dmman]

I think this defense team will be picked apart for years to come!

 

[Sailor Bug]

Won't be long before the publication ban is over

 

[KMouse]

I think this defense team will be picked apart for years to come!

You can only work with what you've got and in MR's case there is nothing.

 

[brighidin]

I feel Tori's teacher's testimony is far more credible and representative of what happened at dismissal than this woman's recollection.

 

[Thinkzerz]

Granny messed up. TLM is seen in video carrying a purse.

 

[SideKick]

Well, for one thing after this, I think Ontario should proceed with installing video camera's in ALL schools, public as well as private and secondary schools. Geesh. It is 2012 isn't it?

 

[tmhco]

What could the defense possibly do to prove that MR was actually duped in the first place. It is all hearsay, she said he said but the evidence presented by the Crown of the actual events is solid. I knew from the get go there was no possible way this defense was going to have anything when they opened with were not denying he was there theory.

I believe it cannot even be considered by the jury because TLM did not adopt it as true. They got nothing. JMO

 

[SideKick]

They obviously have nothing to defend except 'hope' they can plant reasonable doubt.... but how? MR was at the scene. Period.

 

[Flowercb]

Mike Knoll: @Matt - keeping in mind that I think it is all interesting, yes, there will be a slew of info released.

We will be discussing this long after the trial is over. MOO!

 

[crazyladi]

Interesting that this information came out now.

In 2009, TM made comments about the school's responsibility towards making sure kids are picked up by parents or authorized people.

It didn't make a lot of sense until now, because TM had said VS was supposed to walk home alone, and the school wouldn't be responsible for that.

But now...........we know that TLM went into the school and got VS out.

Why did TLM lie about that?

Was it because she hiding the fact that she told MR she was looking after VS? Was it because it didn't fit her story of a random abduction? Was VS taken as revenge for something?

Lots of questions opened up with this witness testimony.

JMO..............

She didnt lie about it. She was never asked the question.

 

[jenniferleia]

Why does it make you angry? I'm rejoicing. It confirms they have no defense. Period.

Dont get me wrong...I am rejoicing too, but feel like there will be more to this then meets the eye....like an appeal for example or some kind of mistrial or something technical like that coming and that makes me sad.

I half expected a story so riduculous that we would laugh and roll our eyes.

 

[Desdemona]

Can't believe that's all he had. Fizzle.

Necro isn't gonna connect the dots, dude. Sorry.

If I were a juror, it would be clear to me why the Crown chose not to put this confused grandma on the stand in their case.

And it would also be clear to me why Derstine chose not to put his client on the stand.

He's sunk, IMO.

Justice for sweet Tori. <3

raying:

 

[Kamille]

Granny messed up. TLM is seen in video carrying a purse.

TLM also testified that she was carrying a purse because it got caught in the door when she was jumping in the front seat after pushing Victoria in the back seat because "Mike" was yelling at her to "hurry up".

MOO

 

[nettie_82]

Well, for one thing after this, I think Ontario should proceed with installing video camera's in ALL schools, public as well as private and secondary schools. Geesh. It is 2012 isn't it?

I couldn't agree more! If it is a money problem that they don't, I know I personally would do away with a lot of the other fundraising they do and give a whole lot more to this type of thing where I know children for years and years to come would be kept safe!!!!!! Maybe this should be another law passed in Tori's name.

 

[Sailor Bug]

They went to break @11:16...that's alot of running Derstine

Derstine has some reexamination, but "wants to run something by" Heeney first. Jury excused.