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  • #141
Does anyone have a theory (or heard one) about the black fibers that were found in the crouch of JB's panties?

I am wondering if there were black wash rags in the home that could have caused them or if there is additional evidence about it that I have not heard yet.

I haven't thought much about this case for a couple of years, and I am not sure what I believe anymore. However, I have to admit I find it difficult to believe that anyone from the outside came in and did this. It could have happened but without more evidence, I just can't support that theory. SO I am not on the fence. I just am not completely off of it either.
 
  • #142
Goody said:
Does anyone have a theory (or heard one) about the black fibers that were found in the crouch of JB's panties?

I am wondering if there were black wash rags in the home that could have caused them or if there is additional evidence about it that I have not heard yet.

I haven't thought much about this case for a couple of years, and I am not sure what I believe anymore. However, I have to admit I find it difficult to believe that anyone from the outside came in and did this. It could have happened but without more evidence, I just can't support that theory. SO I am not on the fence. I just am not completely off of it either.


Goody,

There were two sets of black fibers:

1. There were black (or dark blue) fibers on the inner thighs and the labia of JonBenet, obviously placed there by the wipe down of the body before re-dressing her in the clean but oversized 12/14 panties. The cloth that left these fibers was never found.

2. There were black fibers in the crotch of JonBenet's size 12/14 panties. These fibers were traced to the black shirt that John Ramsey wore to the White's dinner party that evening.
 
  • #143
Let's imagine that JonBenet's body hadn't been wrapped in a blanket, and that there was no blanket in the basement room with her.

How does that change our impressions?

John says, in DOI, paperback, pg 397, "Although JonBenet's wrists were tied, her hands were free to move. I'm told this is consistent with sexual bondage situations." Her hands were free to move? More ambiguity. This observation isn't very helpful; it doesn't tell us whether there was 15+ inches of slack cord between them, or zilch. That's the big question regarding the wrist ligature. "I start untying her, but I can't get the tight knot undone." Huh? Why is only one wrist tied when he brings her body upstairs? Earlier in the paragraph he says, "The garrote around JonBenet's neck was most likely part of a sexual fantasy that I have heard referred to as 'snuff sex'." On page 22 of the book, he says, "I can't stand the sight of her hands tied and have to do something to get them loose." There is no mention of the wrists being tied; this time it's the hands. In one of his interviews (I lose track), he says--and I paraphrase--the wrists were bound together; crossed and bound together. Too many versions for any of them to be believable. So, we're left to wonder. How the wrists were bound (if they were in fact bound) would affect our impressions. If the wrists were crossed and tightly bound, one might infer an abduction attempt; better, yet, if they were bound behind her back, an even stronger impression; better yet, if the ankles and knees were bound, a mighty strong impression. I'm aware that some deduce that her ankles were bound at one time.

What do y'all think?

Now, let's dematerialize the Barbie gown.

How does that change our impressions?

John said, in examining the photos for LE, that the gown looked too shiny to be the one that JonBenet usually wore (or words to that effect). He surmised it may have been removed from JonBenet's life-size (how big is that?) Barbie doll. Apparently this life-size doll came equipped with a similar silken gown. Isn't that interesting. Patsy said, in examining the photos (I'm sure she and John didn't collaborate) for LE, that she didn't recognize the gown as one JonBenet usually wore. She appeared to be genuinely puzzled (my impression). Do you suppose LE found a naked Barbie in the house, or, at least, one sans nightgown? Anybody know? Did they check it for DNA?

So, what we make of this Barbie gown, when we first see it in the wine cellar, without the benefit of the Ramseys' observations, is ??????? We probably get the impression that she had been wearing it at some point prior to being executed?

Maybe her killer (just thinkin') hated/hates females, or is intimidated by them?

Back to the impressions: looks like someone's tried to abduct her?

Remember...we aren't aware of that ransom note yet.....
 

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