Tucker Carlson refuses to apologize amid uproar over his comments defending child rape

[Reasonable & Just]

Self-promotion, victimhood, and willful blindness to his own participation in what he complains about...same old story... the show goes on

 

[scriabina]

The problem is, various people have differing views of what is "right" and what is "wrong". Who gets to decide who is right?

Well, on a societal and national level, lawmakers decide what's right and wrong, and lawmakers decided long ago that rape (including marital rape with children forced into marriage) is wrong. TC was downplaying and attempting to mitigate a serious felony. Yes, some very sick individuals may believe it's fine for adults to force children into marriage and repeatedly rape them, and a few others may agree with TC and believe it's not not really that bad compared to other crimes like dog fighting. But the overwhelming majority agree with the law that rape is terrible, in any shape or form, whether or not disguised as part of a marriage.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

I clicked on this thread hoping to find juicy news. Then I read the article. Some people need to read ALL the article and stop taking sarcasm literally and other topics out of context….js.

"I am not defending underage marriage at all," Carlson said in a clip from 2009. "I just don't think it's the same thing exactly as pulling a child from a bus stop and sexually assaulting that child."

When the hosts pushed back, saying that what Jeffs did was arguably worse because it was "more planned out and plotted," Carlson disagreed.

"Hold on a second. The rapist, in this case, has made a lifelong commitment to live and take care of the person, so it is a little different. I mean, let's be honest about it," Carlson said.

An unidentified "Love Sponge" co-host called Carlson's take "twisted" and "demented," prompting Carlson to repeat that he was not defending child marriage.

Carlson said that if he made the laws, Jeffs would go free while former NFL quarterback Michael Vick would have been given the death penalty for dog fighting.

Tucker Carlson refuses to apologize amid uproar over past comments on 'extremely primitive' women

 

[Reasonable & Just]

The context isn't helping, and I'm not seeing sarcasm...he generally likes to engage in what he considers logical debate, based on my knowledge of him since his red-tie days. Plus, I'm sure an upstanding guy like him would apologize for mere sarcasm.

Let's just re-read this part: "Hold on a second. The rapist, in this case, has made a lifelong commitment to live and take care of the person, so it is a little different. I mean, let's be honest about it," Carlson said. Bolding and underlining was added by me.

This is Websleuths. How many stories do we have of children kept in captivity by rapists who have made what they probably saw as a lifelong commitment to live with, take care of (and rape and control) this child?

Context doesn't make that quote more palatable or reasonable.

 

[Wagtales10]

The context isn't helping, and I'm not seeing sarcasm...he generally likes to engage in what he considers logical debate, based on my knowledge of him since his red-tie days. Plus, I'm sure an upstanding guy like him would apologize for mere sarcasm.

Let's just re-read this part: "Hold on a second. The rapist, in this case, has made a lifelong commitment to live and take care of the person, so it is a little different. I mean, let's be honest about it," Carlson said. Bolding and underlining was added by me.

This is Websleuths. How many stories do we have of children kept in captivity by rapists who have made what they probably saw as a lifelong commitment to live with, take care of (and rape and control) this child?

Context doesn't make that quote more palatable or reasonable.

Not to mention he stated that if up to him, he would make what Jeff’s did legal.

Also his pervy comments on 14 year old classmates of his daughter.

Seem like a pattern of beliefs that he willing out on record

 

[scriabina]

The context isn't helping, and I'm not seeing sarcasm...he generally likes to engage in what he considers logical debate, based on my knowledge of him since his red-tie days. Plus, I'm sure an upstanding guy like him would apologize for mere sarcasm.

Let's just re-read this part: "Hold on a second. The rapist, in this case, has made a lifelong commitment to live and take care of the person, so it is a little different. I mean, let's be honest about it," Carlson said. Bolding and underlining was added by me.

This is Websleuths. How many stories do we have of children kept in captivity by rapists who have made what they probably saw as a lifelong commitment to live with, take care of (and rape and control) this child?

Context doesn't make that quote more palatable or reasonable.

This warrants repeating.

I don't see any sarcasm. How would anyone interpret it through a sarcastic lens? It sounds to me like he means exactly what he is saying: that as long as an abuser feeds and houses and "takes care" of their victim, any abuse is mitigated and pales in comparison to the same sort of abuse in other less "caring" contexts. He even gave specific examples saying just that: a child kidnapped and raped is much worse, in his opinion, than a child who is forced into a marriage and repeatedly raped but otherwise "cared for." I certainly do not share that absurd opinion and I would hope no one else on here does either.

Anyway, he states in his recent tweet that those are his views. He certainly never said he was being sarcastic or "joking" (not that joking about rape is at all appropriate), but instead said, "Anyone who disagrees with my views is welcome to come on and explain why." BBM.

Sorry GunGranny, but you're wrong about the sarcasm.

 

[scriabina]

Carlson said that if he made the laws, Jeffs would go free while former NFL quarterback Michael Vick would have been given the death penalty for dog fighting.

I don't understand how the context of the quote makes it at all better??? So confused. He said if it were up to him, Jeffs would go free, and Michael Vicks would get the death penalty. I don't see how him following up his statement that Jeffs would go free with Vicks getting the death penalty at all changes the bottom line, which is that Tucker C. believes that child rapists, as long as they marry their victims and feed/clothe/house them, should not serve any prison time.

 

[human]

I am reading a book by Diane Lake, the you gest of the Manson family girls.

All of this talk on freedom and sex is so much like what Charles Manson blathered.

 

[Wagtales10]

So he
- defends a child rapist
- says he would make child marriage and child rape legal
- says perverted things about 14 year old girls at his daughter schools while stating he has an 'interest' in them
- insults and demeans all women as a whole
- he made racial comments about middle easterners
- makes anti-semitic comments

He needs to go. Fired. Shamed.

 

[human]

So he
- defends a child rapist
- says he would make child marriage and child rape legal
- says perverted things about 14 year old girls at his daughter schools while stating he has an 'interest' in them
- insults and demeans all women as a whole
- he made racial comments about middle easterners
- makes anti-semitic comments

He needs to go. Fired. Shamed.

It is unbelievable what people accept nowadays.

No morals and church goers are accepting this kind of talk

 

[Wagtales10]

Tucker Carlson under fire again for sexual, degrading comments toward 2007 Miss Teen USA contestant

Tucker Carlson made sexist and demeaning comments about the 2007 Miss Teen USA contestant from South Carolina in a newly unearthed recording, joking about sexual activity with the then 17-year-old girl and the girl's intelligence.

The recordings, unearthed by the media watchdog group Media Matters and released by NowThis on Tuesday, are from a 2007 interview on the "Bubba the Love Sponge Show," a popular radio show. On it, Carlson repeatedly made lewd references to the contestant, Caitlin Upton, calling the teenager "appealing" and stating that she would "probably be a pretty good wife."

...This is the third batch of Carlson's former comments released by Media Matters this week. On Sunday, the organization published audio of the Fox News host discussing sexual assault of children and other degrading comments toward women. On Monday, Media Matters released more recordings of Carlson making homophobic and racist comments.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Tucker Carlson: We're becoming an authoritarian society - and the group in charge is coming after Fox News

 

[Wagtales10]

Tucker Carlson: We're becoming an authoritarian society - and the group in charge is coming after Fox News

I remember when he wanted Samantha B booted from TV for saying Feckless C...
Oh how the tables have turned

Sorry Tucker, people know child rape is wrong, being a racist is wrong, and women deserve to be respected.
It's a shame he believes the opposite

 

[human]

Tucker Carlson: We're becoming an authoritarian society - and the group in charge is coming after Fox News

That article is so humorous.

I can list the reaons why but TOS would not allow it

 

[Wagtales10]

That article is so humorous.

I can list the reaons why but TOS would not allow it

besides being void of fact lol

 

[Reasonable & Just]

He's playing the victim card. Big surprise.

 

[Fairy1]

There is a huge difference between having an opinion and knowing the fundamental difference between right and wrong. For good reasons, the USA has laws that protect underaged children from predators. That's not really up for debate. IMO, it's terribly dangerous to give someone with opinions that could potentially endanger a vulnerable population of humans a national pulpit from which to speak.

And as a side note, Warren Jeffs and his followers have victimized nearly just as many young boys and men as they have underaged girls and women. He and they deserve no sympathy from anyone. Ever.

 

[human]

The immorality that people accept. Unbelievable.

Abusing children is not an opinion. It is and should be a crime.

 

[Wagtales10]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...rlson-fox-news-daily-stormers-favorite-pundit

It’s no secret that Andrew Anglin, among the United States’ most prominent white supremacists, loves Tucker Carlson.

Enamored of the Fox News host’s antagonistic interviews with liberals and people of color, his hostility toward multiculturalism, his xenophobic reports about migration at the southern border, and his outright regurgitation of white nationalist talking points about white farmers in South Africa, Anglin has described Carlson’s show, Tucker Carlson Tonight, as “basically ‘Daily Stormer: The Show'” — a reference to Anglin’s notorious website. He has called Carlson “literally our greatest ally.”

 

[Fairy1]

Tucker Carlson makes sexually explicit jokes about Miss Teen USA contestant in latest audio

Carlson then speculated without evidence that the pageant's host, actor Mario Lopez, had sex with the woman, who Carlson believed was underage at the time.

"Well she was 17," the radio show's host said. "Couldn't that be a problem legally if Mario f---ed it?"

"No. No, are you kidding? He's like James Brown," Carlson responded, referring to the musician who was arrested on domestic violence charges. "The normal laws for that kind of thing don't apply to him. He gets a pass."