TX TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, found deceased, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #4

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Thank you for sharing, @bombardier. In a few days I'll take a look at the pdf.
Don't bother waiting 😅 What they were willing to release was very, very short. it's a single page with the header "Southwest Institute of Forensic Sciences At Dallas" that gives a case number, name of decent, DOD, DOB, the pathologist responsible, and "the cause of death is: homicidal violence." "manner of death: homicide".
I am not surprised that the autopsy report hasn't been released yet, considering how now we know there was definitely a crime committed and the exact mechanism of violence is vital evidence/guilt knowledge.
What IS interesting is that they found Alan on 5/13/2021, would have done the autopsy within days, and the pathologist Mr. Lenfest concluded and signed this report on 7/8/2021, so the evidence of homicide must have been relatively obvious or unambiguous on skeletonized remains. I do believe that they have much more lenient deadlines for the full autopsy report though, which can include ancillary tests like tox and histology.
 
  • #1,082
This may sound crazy, but I'd glad to see a MOD that is "homicide" rather than "undetermined" or "pending", and I'm glad to see that the other documents are still sealed, because this gives me hope that LE is still working on this case.
 
  • #1,083
This may sound crazy, but I'd glad to see a MOD that is "homicide" rather than "undetermined" or "pending", and I'm glad to see that the other documents are still sealed, because this gives me hope that LE is still working on this case.
Thank you for the FOIA document.
I have been following this case about Alan since the beginning and popped in to see these updates.
glad to see it was ruled Homicide. Sad that it has taken this long and still no answers.
Hopefully LE is still working on this case.
 
  • #1,084
Even though the Manner of Death has been disclosed, the actual Cause of Death, to the extent that it can be ascertained, has not been disclosed. Alan’s death; presumably a murder, appears to be very unusual. There is perhaps an active investigation that is still going on and there are “operational” considerations involved in the decision to withhold that information there is always going to be suspicion that the Police are primarily concerned with protecting their image and minimizing coverage of cases they were unable to solve.
 
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"the cause of death is: homicidal violence."
I know a lot of homicide IS violent, but seeing it written there like that from a medical examiner's autopsy report is just a shock.

It sounds like it wasn't, for instance, just a single gunshot that killed him, but had real, repeated force, like a crazy stabbing or beating or something.

So unnecessary. And WHY? Be didn't seem to have an enemy in the world. Did some psychopath take exception to him at the gym,.or at the gas station? There are so many crazed people out there.

MOO.
 
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To me, the most interesting aspect of the case is that his body was dumped in a fairly remote spot in dense vegetation that effectively delayed discovery (which isn’t unusual) but the vehicle was a abandoned fairy nearby the body dump site; which is unusual. Significantly, the vehicle was not close enough to the body to assist Law Enforcement in finding the body. That suggests the perpetrator was anxious to get rid of the car.

In an abduction/murder case where the victim’s vehicle is used, the location the vehicle is abandoned is very significant. If the car was abandoned near the abduction site, it suggests the perpetrator used it to return to his own vehicle or residence. If it is abandoned anywhere else, that would suggest they either lived near where the vehicle was abandoned or they had alternative transportation; someone to give them a ride (perhaps an accomplice) or public transportation (was Lyft and Uber checked).

If it was a random criminal, willing to commit a violent robbery or a murder for whatever cash was in the wallet of some opportunistic target, the perpetrator would have had some reason to be at the abduction site and that would be near their home or “base of operations”. If they did decide to travel any distance to dispose of the body, they would use that vehicle to return. Even with the victim’s vehicle, driving 15 miles to dispose of the body, would be unusual. There are always exceptions and unusual circumstances that could explain unpredicted behavior, but I suspect there was a second driver that followed the Porsche to the dump site and transported the perpetrator away. This was probably not a “random street crime”.

Incidentally, apparently Alan filled his tank at the gas station. If he was abducted and driven directly to the dump site, his tank should have been down about 1/2 gallon. If any more was used, that raises a lot of questions. Do we know how much gas was used.
 
  • #1,087
Repost, 2021
''On Oct. 22, Alan White, who worked as a KPMG executive, went to workout at LA Fitness on Haskell Avenue at 5 a.m. He left the gym about 5:40 a.m. and was captured on video pumping gas around 6 a.m. at the Race Trac at Inwood and Maple.
Days after his disappearance, Dallas police located his missing vehicle in South Dallas, but White was not inside.
On Thursday, his body was found less than a mile away from where the car was found.''

2020
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Nov 5, 2020
New video surveillance footage shows 55-year-old Alan White pumping gas at a RaceTrac on Inwood Road. Before that, he was last seen leaving his gym.
 
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To me, the most interesting aspect of the case is that his body was dumped in a fairly remote spot in dense vegetation that effectively delayed discovery (which isn’t unusual) but the vehicle was a abandoned fairy nearby the body dump site; which is unusual. Significantly, the vehicle was not close enough to the body to assist Law Enforcement in finding the body. That suggests the perpetrator was anxious to get rid of the car.

In an abduction/murder case where the victim’s vehicle is used, the location the vehicle is abandoned is very significant. If the car was abandoned near the abduction site, it suggests the perpetrator used it to return to his own vehicle or residence. If it is abandoned anywhere else, that would suggest they either lived near where the vehicle was abandoned or they had alternative transportation; someone to give them a ride (perhaps an accomplice) or public transportation (was Lyft and Uber checked).

If it was a random criminal, willing to commit a violent robbery or a murder for whatever cash was in the wallet of some opportunistic target, the perpetrator would have had some reason to be at the abduction site and that would be near their home or “base of operations”. If they did decide to travel any distance to dispose of the body, they would use that vehicle to return. Even with the victim’s vehicle, driving 15 miles to dispose of the body, would be unusual. There are always exceptions and unusual circumstances that could explain unpredicted behavior, but I suspect there was a second driver that followed the Porsche to the dump site and transported the perpetrator away. This was probably not a “random street crime”.

Incidentally, apparently Alan filled his tank at the gas station. If he was abducted and driven directly to the dump site, his tank should have been down about 1/2 gallon. If any more was used, that raises a lot of questions. Do we know how much gas was used.
Excellent reasoning and questions you pose.

I still hold to my speculation that the perp was at the gym. Perhaps some testosterone alpha type being attracted to Alan, acting on it, and then becoming enraged, (ego-defensive homophobia), repulsed, and murderous by his own action and attraction to a male. Silencing him to keep it a secret, and to maintain his macho image. Emphasizing that is only amateur opinion and speculation.
 
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Thinking about it, you'd think 5am-6am would be the least likely time to be killed.

You'd think it happens mainly at night. So by 5am, all the nefarious types had finally gone to bed.

The general public were starting to be up and about, and starting their day., work, gym, college, etc.

It's just such a bizarre time for this type of crime.

It makes me wonder if he was being watched and followed, for an opportunity when he was by himself and vulnerable.

It doesn't make sense for it to be a random killing. It wasn't robbery, or a vehicle theft gone wrong.

It was pure, cold murder at the crack of dawn. Who does that?!

MOO.
 
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FWIW.. rbbm.
2022
  • In general, the number of violent crimes committed by adults increases hourly from 6 a.m. through the afternoon and evening hours, peaks at 9 p.m., and then drops to a low point at 5 a.m. In contrast, violent crimes committed by youth peak in the afternoon between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m., the hour at the end of the school day.
  • More than one-third (37%) of all violent crime committed by youth occurs in the 5 hour period between noon and 5 p.m. In comparison, 30% of all violent crime committed by adults occurs between 6 p.m. and 11 p.m..
''Note: Violent crimes include murder, violent sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, simple assault, and kidnapping.
Data are from law enforcement agencies in 45 states and the District of Columbia.''

Apr 20, 2022,
''More recently, Denver Police Department homicide figures showed that the wee hours were indeed most deadly. Of the 96 Denver homicides during 2021, more than a third, or 35, took place between midnight and 5 a.m., reported'' westword.com.
2019
''The study found that on weekdays, more than half of drug violations, larceny/theft, simple assaults and property crimes occurred during daylight hours, between 7 a.m. and 6:59 p.m. However the more serious crimes – murder, rape/sexual assault, robbery and driving while impaired – still happen more at night, from 7 p.m. to 6:59 a.m. The exception is the weekend, when the majority of all kinds of crime take place at night.''
 
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So we have an early bird criminal. Such as early gym goers….

Amateur opinion and speculation only
 
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I am still diving into Alan's case, so apologies if I have missed something glaring. Is it a possibility that Alan may have planned to meet someone that morning, either through an app or possibly someone he encountered at the gym for a clandestine rendezvous? I am not suggesting wrongdoing on his part or making assumptions, just trying to understand all plausible scenarios based on timelines and known movements. but I also assume they would have gotten info from his cell phone that would help figure out if/who he was talking to that morning.
 
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I am still diving into Alan's case, so apologies if I have missed something glaring. Is it a possibility that Alan may have planned to meet someone that morning, either through an app or possibly someone he encountered at the gym for a clandestine rendezvous? I am not suggesting wrongdoing on his part or making assumptions, just trying to understand all plausible scenarios based on timelines and known movements. but I also assume they would have gotten info from his cell phone that would help figure out if/who he was talking to that morning.
I've long suspected this was the case, and why Randal reacted the way he did so quickly - when Alan failed to arrive home. This is not disrepectful, nor is it victim bashing. No moral judgement whatsoever.
 
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So unnecessary. And WHY? Be didn't seem to have an enemy in the world.
@itsdev raises the possibility of a meeting.

Towards his meet up possibility, that gas station is on the frontier between two worlds. Poetics aside, to the west and north lay increasing gentrified areas and mega large medical complexes. Here, Dallas Police, Hospital Police and high end private security are common.

But.... going south of the gas station on Maple, the gentrification stops and the scene quickly drops to "iffy at best", then to "down right dangerous" at the public housing complex.

In short, an vendor of illicit goods or uhmm..... "services" may view the gentrified areas as too risky for exchanges given the police and security. Likewise, a potential buyer from the gentrified world may well find areas south on Maple too risky in regards to crime for exchanges.

So..... as a country song goes: "You start walking your way and I"ll start waking mine. We"ll meet in the middle." - Well, at the frontier gas station with bad, but not dangerous rep.
 
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I am still diving into Alan's case, so apologies if I have missed something glaring. Is it a possibility that Alan may have planned to meet someone that morning, either through an app or possibly someone he encountered at the gym for a clandestine rendezvous? I am not suggesting wrongdoing on his part or making assumptions, just trying to understand all plausible scenarios based on timelines and known movements. but I also assume they would have gotten info from his cell phone that would help figure out if/who he was talking to that morning.
This is the only scenario that has ever made sense to me.
 
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If AW was texting with anyone, LE would surely know by now, I would hope. This has been pending too long, and I really hope it’s being given the attention it deserves.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
 
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If AW was texting with anyone, LE would surely know by now, I would hope. This has been pending too long, and I really hope it’s being given the attention it deserves.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

In the investigation into James Alan White’s murder, his digital footprint—or lack thereof—has been a major point of interest and frustration for both his family and law enforcement.

While it is theoretically possible he was communicating via "untraceable" methods, the reality for law enforcement (LE) is often a mix of technical hurdles and legal roadblocks. Here is how that could have played out in this case:

"Untraceable" Messaging Apps

If Alan White was communicating with someone before his disappearance, certain apps could have made those conversations nearly impossible for investigators to recover:

  • End-to-End Encryption: Apps like Signal or Telegram use encryption that ensures only the sender and receiver can read the messages. Unlike standard text messages, the content of these chats is not stored on the service provider's servers in a readable format.
  • Vanishing Messages: Some platforms allow users to set a timer for messages to self-destruct after they are read. If Alan used such a feature, there would be no record of the conversation on his phone or the recipient's phone by the time police gained access to the device.
  • iMessage Privacy: On Reddit and in various true crime communities, there has been speculation that if Alan used iMessage to communicate with someone using an untraceable "burner" phone, Apple would only be able to confirm that messages were sent, not their actual content.

The Challenges for Law Enforcement

Police faced several specific hurdles in tracing his communications:

  • The Dead Phone: Shortly after he went missing, his cell phone apparently died or was turned off, making real-time location tracking impossible.
  • Warrant-Proof Encryption: The FBI and other LE agencies often cite "warrant-proof encryption" as a major barrier. Even with a court order, they frequently lack the technical ability to decrypt messages from certain high-security apps.
  • Third-Party Apps: Investigators noted that while Alan appeared to be using his phone in surveillance footage, he might have been using an app rather than standard cellular data, which complicates the trail of records left behind.

Possibility of a "Burner" Device

Another theory is that the person Alan may have been communicating with was using a burner phone—a prepaid device bought with cash and not linked to a personal identity. Even if LE could identify a number Alan was texting, if that number belonged to a burner, it would lead to a dead end.
 
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I am still diving into Alan's case, so apologies if I have missed something glaring. Is it a possibility that Alan may have planned to meet someone that morning, either through an app or possibly someone he encountered at the gym for a clandestine rendezvous? I am not suggesting wrongdoing on his part or making assumptions, just trying to understand all plausible scenarios based on timelines and known movements. but I also assume they would have gotten info from his cell phone that would help figure out if/who he was talking to that morning.
That's certainly possible but I've always discounted that scenario because Alan had a scheduled (virtual) work meeting for which he would have just had time to arrive home. By all accounts, Alan was a diligent employee and wouldn't have been late. I think that's why his partner became alarmed so quickly. JMO.
 

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