TX TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, found deceased, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #4

[Spiritecho]

They were married.
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• Document Number:20160004675
• Number of Pages:3
• Recorded Date:05/03/2016

• Marriage Date:04/09/2016

Parties
JENKINS DAVID RUSSELLAPPLICANT2WHITE JAMES ALANAPPLICANT1

 

[Valiant]

One reason for this might be because he was in a long term committed relationship with a man in a state/country where gay marriage is a recent thing. They likely had ROBUST wills, living wills, directives, POAs all in place for years to try to give them the protections and rights of a married couple. So it's not crazy to think that there was no reason to update some of those documents - as they were likely very comprehensive going back years. I am not a lawyer. All my opinions.

I think it's been proven by the POA that was used to sell the house that they had excellent legal advice to protect each other long before their marriage was recognized. It's just odd they put so much effort before that the wills were not redone after the union became legal. But in this case, I don't think it affects the distribution one bit.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I think it's been proven by the POA that was used to sell the house that they had excellent legal advice to protect each other long before their marriage was recognized. It's just odd they put so much effort before that the wills were not redone after the union became legal. But in this case, I don't think it affects the distribution one bit.

There would be no reason to redo the will; it had Rusty well covered. There would be no additional protections/rights that weren't already covered. This is a good illustration to all of the importance of a strong will, and what it can provide for those you love. Alan was buttoned up.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Valiant]

There would be no reason to redo the will; it had Rusty well covered. There would be no additional protections/rights that weren't already covered. This is a good illustration to all of the importance of a strong will, and what it can provide for those you love. Alan was buttoned up.

Amateur opinion and speculation

There is a valid reason. The will states Alan is not married. In this case it shouldn't make any difference - but small things can sometimes become a big deal or make things more complicated or take longer than they need.
Everyone should have an updated will.

 

[shefner]

While I don't believe Alan committed suicide, I do hope we will do away with the shame associated with suicide.
The action itself is not a reproach to the deceased person or his family and friends. In my work of 38 years, I have known numerous people who committed suicide. In each case, the person was loved and undergoing something which made their decision seem logical in that moment.
Suicide is heartbreaking but not scandalizing.

 

[charminglane]

While I don't believe Alan committed suicide, I do hope we will do away with the shame associated with suicide.
The action itself is not a reproach to the deceased person or his family and friends. In my work of 38 years, I have known numerous people who committed suicide. In each case, the person was loved and undergoing something which made their decision seem logical in that moment.
Suicide is heartbreaking but not scandalizing.

Thank you for this post, Shefner.
A dear friend of mine took his life Sunday morning.
Your perspective is appreciated in regards to my friend Bill, as well as Alan-whom I think we all consider a friend of ours for how much we wanted him to be alive and thriving.
Now, justice.

 

[shefner]

Thank you for this post, Shefner.
A dear friend of mine took his life Sunday morning.
Your perspective is appreciated in regards to my friend Bill, as well as Alan-whom I think we all consider a friend of ours for how much we wanted him to be alive and thriving.
Now, justice.

My condolences to you, charminglane.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Thank you for this post, Shefner.
A dear friend of mine took his life Sunday morning.
Your perspective is appreciated in regards to my friend Bill, as well as Alan-whom I think we all consider a friend of ours for how much we wanted him to be alive and thriving.
Now, justice.

I'm so sorry for your loss charminglane.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Thank you for this post, Shefner.
A dear friend of mine took his life Sunday morning.
Your perspective is appreciated in regards to my friend Bill, as well as Alan-whom I think we all consider a friend of ours for how much we wanted him to be alive and thriving.
Now, justice.

So sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you.

 

[Mr. Teddy]

Cause of Alan White's death still not determined - Dallas Voice

 

[bombardier]

Cause of Alan White's death still not determined - Dallas Voice

From the above article, published on July 21; "Responding to an inquiry from Dallas Voice, Sgt. Sigala of the homicide unit wrote, “The cause of death has not been determined by the Medical Examiner’s office. No new updates to provide. This is still an active an ongoing investigation.”"

Wonder if Sgt. Sigala means that COD has not yet been determined (i.e. still waiting on toxicology or pathology for the whole picture) or if the Medical Examiner has concluded with a COD/MOD of 'Undetermined'.

 

[Dre]

From the above article, published on July 21; "Responding to an inquiry from Dallas Voice, Sgt. Sigala of the homicide unit wrote, “The cause of death has not been determined by the Medical Examiner’s office. No new updates to provide. This is still an active an ongoing investigation.”"

Wonder if Sgt. Sigala means that COD has not yet been determined (i.e. still waiting on toxicology or pathology for the whole picture) or if the Medical Examiner has concluded with a COD/MOD of 'Undetermined'.

MOD is homicide-COD is still undetermined. They have some sort of evidence but not enough to say exactly what killed him. Moo
Cause of Alan White's death still not determined - Dallas Voice

 

[bombardier]

MOD is homicide-COD is still undetermined. They have some sort of evidence but not enough to say exactly what killed him. Moo
Cause of Alan White's death still not determined - Dallas Voice

Thank you! Totally missed that section of the article. Wonder if this was stated by the sergeant or if the article author concluded this as the sergeant of the homicide unit is the one that replied to him. I'll have to take this with a grain of salt until another publication posts something in agreeance.
"While the cause of death hasn’t been determined, the case is being investigated by homicide now."

 

[Valiant]

Thank you! Totally missed that section of the article. Wonder if this was stated by the sergeant or if the article author concluded this as the sergeant of the homicide unit is the one that replied to him. I'll have to take this with a grain of salt until another publication posts something in agreeance.
"While the cause of death hasn’t been determined, the case is being investigated by homicide now."

I think it is an assumption made by the author.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Has it ever actually been stated the MOD is homicide?
I know his brother has stated that, but has LE ever stated it?
Hard to keep track of details after so long.

 

[Bridger]

Has it ever actually been stated the MOD is homicide?
I know his brother has stated that, but has LE ever stated it?
Hard to keep track of details after so long.

No, the manner of death has not been announced by anyone who would actually know. Really odd to me that it would take this long to figure out the cause.

 

[Knox]

No, the manner of death has not been announced by anyone who would actually know. Really odd to me that it would take this long to figure out the cause.

Not odd if you consider {no way to say this nicely} the amount of decomposition that occurred.

What if - Alan was killed by a through and through gunshot where the bullet did not strike bone. Same with a knife wound(s), no damage to bone. What about strangulation, is the hyoid bone always the only indicator? Just thinking out loud.

 

[Bridger]

What if - Alan was killed by a through and through gunshot where the bullet did not strike bone. Same with a knife wound(s), no damage to bone. What about strangulation, is the hyoid bone always the only indicator? Just thinking out loud.

So many possibilities. Even if he was found hanging from a tree (and I have no reason to think he was), the coroner would have to determine whether it was a suicide or a murder staged to look like one. And even if he was found, say, in a shallow grave, they couldn’t label it homicide until they’d ruled out OD or a natural death followed by a panicked friend disposing of the body. Sounds like bludgeoning is unlikely, as is a self-inflicted gunshot wound, as well as any other gunshot death (but as you point out, it’s possible). It’s probably not poisoning either, as I’d assume toxicology would be back by now. But there are other possibilities that might be difficult to uncover in a delayed autopsy, like strangling, suffocation or slit wrists.

 

[MimosaMornings]

In a few states, a will that predates a marriage is accepted as valid. Texas is an example of a state where the will would be probated as written even if the testator married after the will was executed.
JMO

 

[realanastasia]

What about strangulation, is the hyoid bone always the only indicator? Just thinking out loud.

Petechial hemorrhages in the eyes (bursting of blood vessels) are also a telltale sign of strangulation or asphyxiation. Ah, countless hours of watching Forensic Files finally comes in handy!