GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #4

[cluciano63]

My kids are active in sports that involve other children around Saginaw, but not in Saginaw. The other moms are not concerned with this case, even with one of my children being a classmate of hers.

Are not concerned?? How could they not be?

 

[CluelessWonder]

Has any been able to make sense of the thing about the cooler?

 

[bessie]

Knock it off! Leave the scurillous rumors off of this board.

 

[jjenny]

I do as well, just wondering what LE might be thinking. So, how can the non-bio dad be the legal dad? Did the bio dad relinquish his rights and let the other guy adopt her? I'm just no realizing there was a third parent in the family and have no idea what their arrangement is. Which one is the mom legally married to, if the bio dad and the legal dad are not the same? I assumed the one w/ the same last name, but the comment about the legal dad = I'm so confused!

No, the legal husband of the mother is considered the legal dad. The biodad is living with them all. There are three of them (mother, legal dad and bio dad) living together. Since bio dad isn't a legal husband, he isn't considered the legal father. She can't legally marry two men at the same time-that is a crime of bigamy. But since the bio dad and her aren't legally married then she isn't committing a crime.

 

[kkdj]

I do as well, just wondering what LE might be thinking. So, how can the non-bio dad be the legal dad? Did the bio dad relinquish his rights and let the other guy adopt her? I'm just no realizing there was a third parent in the family and have no idea what their arrangement is. Which one is the mom legally married to, if the bio dad and the legal dad are not the same? I assumed the one w/ the same last name, but the comment about the legal dad = I'm so confused!

All legal jargon.
I think what we want to know is who is the bio dad?
Then, legally, who can make decisions for her life?
In a normal 2 person marriage both parents have the right to decide a childs schooling, religious upbringing, medical attention, etc.
I think if she were married to one man throughout her pregnancy he would have those rights as a legal father.
now if the true father were a lover, it would need to be proven he was the father.
Looks to me there was compliance from all parties involved.

 

[bessie]

That's an excellent point. Why did bio dad avoid the reporter's question on what time he last saw Alanna? Bio dad doesn't appear to have hearing problems.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/07/09/police-investigate-father-of-murdered-six-year-old/

There are also some lengthy pauses after bio dad states, "I want......"

And if he had spoken too readily, some would say he'd rehearsed a cover story. These folks can't win no matter what they do or say.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Knock it off! Leave the scurillous rumors off of this board.

Oh man!! I always miss the scurrilous rumors!! :floorlaugh:

 

[ahintexas]

All legal jargon.
I think what we want to know is who is the bio dad?
Then, legally, who can make decisions for her life?
In a normal 2 person marriage both parents have the right to decide a childs schooling, religious upbringing, medical attention, etc.
I think if she were married to one man throughout her pregnancy he would have those rights as a legal father.
now if the true father were a lover, it would need to be proven he was the father.
Looks to me there was compliance from all parties involved.

I know a girl who was married, got knocked up by her BF. As soon as BF heard "pregnant", he split. Her and her husband worked things out, and are still married. The child has the BF's last name. Girl and husband tried to get sons name changed to their name, but a judge said the bio dad would have to surrender his rights to the child, which he wouldn't. Make sense?

 

[manzana]

http://youtu.be/K0Jg7pvVzKk

 

[bessie]

All legal jargon.
I think what we want to know is who is the bio dad?
Then, legally, who can make decisions for her life?
In a normal 2 person marriage both parents have the right to decide a childs schooling, religious upbringing, medical attention, etc.
I think if she were married to one man throughout her pregnancy he would have those rights as a legal father.
now if the true father were a lover, it would need to be proven he was the father.
Looks to me there was compliance from all parties involved.

The question was answered in MSM a week ago.

The girl lived less than two miles from where her body was found, with her mother and two men who neighbors said were her fathers. One man her biological father and the other shares the same last name.

The girl's aunt said although their situation may have seemed unorthodox, it had nothing to do with Alanna's murder.

"It doesn't mean that they are vicious people and that they didn't love their children or each other any more than what we do," Teresa McDaniel said.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/22738162/childs-body-found-in-saginaw#ixzz2YcIe9uXc

 

[kkdj]

And if he had spoken too readily, some would say he'd rehearsed a cover story. These folks can't win no matter what they do or say.

Not everybody can speak in public.
and why should they if they r uncomfortable?
Their precious child was murdered!
I cant imagine a more gut wrenching grief and sorrow...

 

[eileenhawkeye]

My kids are active in sports that involve other children around Saginaw, but not in Saginaw. The other moms are not concerned with this case, even with one of my children being a classmate of hers.

I'm actually not that surprised that there isn't much interest in this case. LE has given the public no reason to believe that a dangerous predator is on the loose. There is also not one suspect that the media is focusing on, for the public to learn information about. There is no "bad man/woman" which is something pretty much every high-profile case has. There haven't been many sensational developments since Alaina was found murdered either. No constant "shockers" on the news. Also, Alaina isn't missing, so there are no searches, and no hope that she can be found alive. The public didn't get to know her, or form an attachment to her before her body was found either.

 

[bessie]

Sorry. lease:

I didn't think mine was necessarily bad. Just trying to give people an "other" view so maybe they wouldn't be pooheads about lifestyle choices and whatnot. Now I feel bad!

Sometimes even good intentions get us caught up in the wrong discussion. No need to feel bad.

 

[human]

As a retired teacher, we needed to know the legal status of children. If there was an accident or if legal school papers needed to be signed, it could not be the boyfriend even if he was the father. There had to be documents showing us who the parents are.

There are many issues with this including children who may be kidnapped.

I did not look at the legal stuff. How does anyone know a birth certificate is for real?

O/T but we live outside of the US half the year in a country where English is not spoken that much. We have been stopped driving because of roadside checks for drunk driving.

You have to show your driver's license ,which is a US state license. They accept US licenses. They look at it and give it back and let us pass.

Hubby says to me, " How do they even know the license is legitimate? I could have made it myself"

 

[SuperTmo]

Lol. Sorry not mad at you per se. Just mad that people outside of WS continue to drudge up info on their sex lives. Like I said, I'm sure LE are aware and have been looking into it.

Also I edited my original point while you quoted it so it may help to go back and read it if you missed it. Not trying to be snarky to you or anyone. Just mad in general.


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Unfortunately, people are going to look at them with a side eye at first, innocent or not, because their kid somehow ended up dead and dumped in the street, while she was apparently out playing unattended, which seems to be a regular occurrence. It hasn't been made clear how long she had been gone from the house, or why nobody had attempted to locate her earlier to check up on her. Nobody making sure she wasn't getting dehydrated playing outside for so long, nobody reapplying sunscreen, nobody making sure she wasn't hurt. Apparently at least one parent, maybe two were home. Why weren't they checking on her, and why was it only once the other dad came home that any action was taken, and any consideration for this baby's wellbeing given.

I will be honest and say that this is neglectful behavior in my opinion, and I do not understand it. Why couldn't anyone check on her? Do they even know where she was allegedly going to play? Did they ask her where she was going to be? It is very hard for me to say that this was probably a loving or safe home, no matter what has been posted online from the parents, because from how it looks right now, nobody was paying any attention to this girl. And it was not the first time she was out wandering like that. SO yeah, honestly, every thing that the parents do/did/say/said/etc. will be looked at and analyzed by the public. We want to know the circumstances in which this little girl ended up alone and being murdered. I can't blame anyone for looking at the parents lifestyle and wondering what was going on there, who they had in and out, etc.

 

[Ladylub]

Did any locals call in that tip?
After I got off here early I had to do the whole story time thing and when telling my son night night I bumped his dresser which had wood glue bottle on it and it dumped in my hair ( my fault rushing to fix the drawer I forgot to close the cap and take it out his room). Then a phone call dealing with a friend having a melt down till my battery died. Is there a way to email in the tip as well? If not Ill do it in the morning after the phone charges. Also gives me more time to look up this guy.

 

[fred&edna]

Hubby says to me, " How do they even know the license is legitimate? I could have made it myself"

So, y'all do licenses as well as diplomas?! hehe



*sorry, couldn't resist!

 

[carole]

Did any locals call in that tip?
After I got off here early I had to do the whole story time thing and when telling my son night night I bumped his dresser which had wood glue bottle on it and it dumped in my hair ( my fault rushing to fix the drawer I forgot to close the cap and take it out his room). Then a phone call dealing with a friend having a melt down till my battery died. Is there a way to email in the tip as well? If not Ill do it in the morning after the phone charges. Also gives me more time to look up this guy.

What tip??

 

[bessie]

Not everybody can speak in public.
and why should they if they r uncomfortable?
Their precious child was murdered!
I cant imagine a more gut wrenching grief and sorrow...

Neither can I. So when in doubt, wouldn't you say it's reasonable and compassionate to err on the side of caution?

 

[SuperTmo]

I don't know if he is being questioned for the first time. But they already questioned the two other parents. He says they were trying to compare what he told them to what his wife and her other husband told them.

I would expect LE would do this immediately, as to eliminate the possibility of parents comparing stories, creating alibis, etc. Not saying these parents did this, just in general. Seems very odd to leave the 5 remaining family members together for so long before hearing all of their stories.

Maybe they did interview him already and his info had some inconsistencies LE wanted to clarify? Just seems odd to me for the LE to be comparing stories this far into the investigation.