GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #4

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  • #761
I tend to agree with you on this. Why else would they lump the blue cloth with a cooler. Everything else is listed separately. I think it would look like this.
Blue piece of cloth
Middle section of cooler

Oh , how about one of those covers for a slide in ice pack? There are sorts you keep in freezer for things and some have a slip on cover if you want to put in a a sore knee or something and it seems like those covers are blue, so perhaps it is related to the ice chest in that the blue ' ice pack' ( if there is one ) was kept in the ice chest/ cooler. Thinking out loud.
 
  • #762
I tend to agree with you on this. Why else would they lump the blue cloth with a cooler. Everything else is listed separately. I think it would look like this.
Blue piece of cloth
Middle section of cooler

I tend to agree too because I remember thinking when I read it

"what does that mean? middle bit cooler? do they mean it was damp in the middle?"

That's exactly what I thought at the time.
 
  • #763
What do you think about the smiley face memo? Is that a memo pad? Why did they collect that? Did the sicko leave a note with Alanna?
 
  • #764
Yeah but the community is not supposed to worry as this is an isolated incident. :banghead:

Who's worried? Saginaw & surrounding communities are "perfectly safe". "We don't have those sort of things here". (Officer Damon Ing, July 3rd)

Just because I'm loitering on a message board 24/7 desperate for any break in this case when I should be working, making dinner, cleaning house, playing with my own kids.......doesn't mean I'm worried. *sarcasm*
 
  • #765
What do you think about the smiley face memo? Is that a memo pad? Why did they collect that? Did the sicko leave a note with Alanna?

Weird thought, what else could it refer to?
 
  • #766
My heart breaks when I log on and realize that whoever did this to Alanna hasn't been arrested. :(
I thank all you for your input.
imo
 
  • #767
ITA. In this video, he doesn't say that the police asked him not to release what time Alanna left her home.

MM states:

"I'm not sure I should be giving that information. I'm not sure the police want me to give out that information...."

MM had just spent 8-10 hours in the police station, but I guess some things are just unclear.

IMO, he just comes off as very unassertive. You could tell that he didn't want to talk to the reporters, but seemed to give in. And I feel like the "I'm not sure....." is his way of saying no, without actually saying no.
 
  • #768
Oh no...Now that sounds like they have no idea who did this. :(

LE might have identified the monster or a coverup of an accidental death. Because defense attorneys try to free clients by insinuating that LE is incompetent, the billboard might be LE's proof that they did their job and gathered every possible lead.
 
  • #769
Weird thought, what else could it refer to?
I really don't know. Maybe it was a memo written sometime in the past that LE thought might be relevant to Alanna's murder?

Here is one GUESS: Maybe it was memo stuck on a hot tub lid to warn the kids not to pull off the lid?

Could a 6-year-old pull off a hot tub lid? How heavy are those lids? Do all hot tubs come with lids or do you have to purchase a lid separately? Do some people use tarps on their hot tub instead of lids?
 
  • #770
Maybe Alanna had a note in her pocket?
 
  • #771
What do you think about the smiley face memo? Is that a memo pad? Why did they collect that? Did the sicko leave a note with Alanna?

You know, that was the first in the list and I remember thinking wth is that for, and then I read through the rest and got so caught up in TP and hot tub water.


1) Smiley face memo

memo, singular. It doesn't say pad and I think it would if it was. Now does that mean a smiley face drawn on a yellow memo sticker or one of these types?

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Ugh, lost on this one. Did someone notice it was stuck somewhere it wasn't before? Or maybe something simple like it could have fingerprint on the sticky, maybe even Alannas, Mom may have said Alanna has these stickers and she put this one here, for them to use to help confirm identification. I'm really just grabbing theories from thin air *sigh*
 
  • #772
Maybe Alanna had a note in her pocket?

Clu, as far as we know LE has not recovered her clothes. Fancy little underwear if they had pockets.
 
  • #773
I am trying to speculate about where the perp was going. Let's assume for a second that it accidentally fell off the back of a pickup truck (instead of being intentionally dumped from any kind of vehicle). Looking at the location of the tarp, if it fell off the back of a pickup right there, then it seems like it must have been driving eastward (upwards in the picture) on Roundrock Drive. But, looking at a map of the area, it's hard for me to see why anyone would be doing that. It's not coming from the direction of Alanna's neighborhood and it doesn't go anywhere useful.

A few people have wondered up thread if the original location of the tarp may have been the cone shown in the picture (and perhaps the tarp was moved by the boys who discovered the body, after they first dragged it out of the middle of the street). Descriptions that the tarp was found " in the middle of a quiet intersection" seem to support that idea (though perhaps the pictured location of the tarp seemed close enough to the reporter to describe it as the middle of an intersection).

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If the cone is the actually location the body was found, that opens up different possibilities for where the perp was driving when the body fell off the back of the truck (again, assuming it happened that way). Perhaps the truck had come down Woodcrest Drive, taking back roads from Alannah's neighborhood. The right turn from Woodcrest onto Roundrock (westward) is pretty sharp. The body might have rolled into a less stable position. Then when the truck took the first subsequent turn on Cindy Lane, it might have tumbled out.

So,possibly, the truck driver was taking back roads away from Alannah's neighborhood, threading to the south somewhere. I have no idea where it would be headed, but at least the route make a little more sense that way to me (heading westward on Roundrock instead of eastward).
 
  • #774
Regarding the evidence taken by LE -

I got the impression that one group of items was taken from car A, car B etc.

I don't know about you but when I was driving around with kids I had all sorts of bizarre carp in my car, including toilet paper.

As for the "house" list...isn't that of things they were looking for, not things they necessarily found?

:waitasec:
 
  • #775
I am trying to speculate about where the perp was going. Let's assume for a second that it accidentally fell off the back of a pickup truck (instead of being intentionally dumped from any kind of vehicle). Looking at the location of the tarp, if it fell off the back of a pickup right there, then it seems like it must have been driving eastward (upwards in the picture) on Roundrock Drive. But, looking at a map of the area, it's hard for me to see why anyone would be doing that. It's not coming from the direction of Alanna's neighborhood and it doesn't go anywhere useful.

A few people have wondered up thread if the original location of the tarp may have been the cone shown in the picture (and perhaps the tarp was moved by the boys who discovered the body, after they first dragged it out of the middle of the street). Descriptions that the tarp was found " in the middle of a quiet intersection" seem to support that idea (though perhaps the pictured location of the tarp seemed close enough to the reporter to describe it as the middle of an intersection).

article-2353525-1A9F1D96000005DC-576_634x337.jpg


If the cone is the actually location the body was found, that opens up different possibilities for where the perp was driving when the body fell off the back of the truck (again, assuming it happened that way). Perhaps the truck had come down Woodcrest Drive, taking back roads from Alannah's neighborhood. The right turn from Woodcrest onto Roundrock (westward) is pretty sharp. The body might have rolled into a less stable position. Then when the truck took the first subsequent turn on Cindy Lane, it might have tumbled out.

So,possibly, the truck driver was taking back roads away from Alannah's neighborhood, threading to the south somewhere. I have no idea where it would be headed, but at least the route make a little more sense that way to me (heading westward on Roundrock instead of eastward).

I think we're seeing the body exactly as it was found. No one had moved her yet when that photo was taken.

The position implies someone stopped at the stop sign then accelerated away at speed...probably around the corner.

:twocents:
 
  • #776
I would be interested to know where the pool is located. One remote possibility is that maybe the perp drowned Alanna (in a bathtub? hot tub? home pool?) and intended to somehow try to make it look like an accident at a community pool but maybe lost the body on the way there or saw that it was too busy, panicked, and dumped the body in the street.

does not explain the sadistic way that little alanna was found. this was personal IMO. someone she knew, very well.
 
  • #777
does not explain the sadistic way that little alanna was found. this was personal IMO. someone she knew, very well.

I see it the exact opposite.

The violence of the attack, the restraints - all indicate someone Alanna didn't know very well, if at all. Maybe just by sight.

Anyone who knew her well, would have time and leisure to groom her. Restraints wouldn't be needed.

:cow:
 
  • #778
Not sure how this falls with ts&cs but i'm happy to be deleted if necessary. I can't see an obvious hot tub/pool in Alanna's garden. Appreciate a hot tub can be inside though obvs. There seems to be either a covered pool/pond or trampoline next door though. Can't work it out
 
  • #779
What do you think about the smiley face memo? Is that a memo pad? Why did they collect that? Did the sicko leave a note with Alanna?

and why a female condom.

and why this and why that......way too many odd things removed that really don't seem to add up to little allana being found.
 
  • #780
I am trying to speculate about where the perp was going. Let's assume for a second that it accidentally fell off the back of a pickup truck (instead of being intentionally dumped from any kind of vehicle). Looking at the location of the tarp, if it fell off the back of a pickup right there, then it seems like it must have been driving eastward (upwards in the picture) on Roundrock Drive. But, looking at a map of the area, it's hard for me to see why anyone would be doing that. It's not coming from the direction of Alanna's neighborhood and it doesn't go anywhere useful.

A few people have wondered up thread if the original location of the tarp may have been the cone shown in the picture (and perhaps the tarp was moved by the boys who discovered the body, after they first dragged it out of the middle of the street). Descriptions that the tarp was found " in the middle of a quiet intersection" seem to support that idea (though perhaps the pictured location of the tarp seemed close enough to the reporter to describe it as the middle of an intersection).

article-2353525-1A9F1D96000005DC-576_634x337.jpg


If the cone is the actually location the body was found, that opens up different possibilities for where the perp was driving when the body fell off the back of the truck (again, assuming it happened that way). Perhaps the truck had come down Woodcrest Drive, taking back roads from Alannah's neighborhood. The right turn from Woodcrest onto Roundrock (westward) is pretty sharp. The body might have rolled into a less stable position. Then when the truck took the first subsequent turn on Cindy Lane, it might have tumbled out.

So,possibly, the truck driver was taking back roads away from Alannah's neighborhood, threading to the south somewhere. I have no idea where it would be headed, but at least the route make a little more sense that way to me (heading westward on Roundrock instead of eastward).

I think the perp was avoiding major roadways where cops may be more likely to see him and stop him for some infraction. neighborhood, during the day, obviously people not paying much attention......on the way to a nearby area such as a park, trees, lake, pond, industrial area, etc...
 
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