GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #5

[matou]

Program for Alanna's funeral.

https://twitter.com/laribaragerfox4/status/355350448250707968/photo/1

 

[carbuff]

Sleuthing does not mean implicating or accusing. It means digging up and posting information about the one you are sleuthing. NO SLEUTHING THE FAMILY. I don't get what is unclear about this??????

Thank you.

I think quite a few people are unclear about the meaning of "sleuthing" and think it includes at least suspicion. I know I was under that misapprehension until recently. And I have been around for a while

 

[raeann]

So does anyone think that the piece of plastic, pic on pge 3, 4th one down, looks like some kind of a latch, like on a tailgate?

Unsure....but perhaps a cooler latch??.....explaining then what has been discussed IIRC as taken from the SW list as the "middle section of a cooler"? That would be the part with a latch mechanism.

 

[ctkid]

I thought the pic being referenced looked like a piece of torn garbage bag (maybe a piece of the bag she was wrapped in). IMO

 

[Hejlena]

https://twitter.com/twoodard8/

What is this black thing in picture #3?

 

[ahintexas]

I thought the pic being referenced looked like a piece of torn garbage bag (maybe a piece of the bag she was wrapped in). IMO

Viewing from my phone, I thought it looked like TP.

 

[elmomom]

Viewing from my phone, I thought it looked like TP.

Could it be a piece of tape?

 

[elmomom]

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[matou]

Did someone remove that tape from the bundle? If it's tape it looks like black tape to me.

 

[Threeplus1]

@JeffSmithNBC5: Police still have no suspects, and ME can't say for sure how she was killed. Scientific tests won't come back until end of July @NBCDFW

 

[cluciano63]

It is shocking that cause of death cannot be determined, when she was found so quickly. We have seen a lot of cases lately where COD is undetermined due to months or years before the victim is found...but not a few hours.

 

[elmomom]

@JeffSmithNBC5: Police still have no suspects, and ME can't say for sure how she was killed. Scientific tests won't come back until end of July @NBCDFW

Since they pointedly said she wasn't strangled (apologies for not finding the link, it was posted earlier today or late last night, and I'm at work and don't have time to fish it out)
anyhow, since LE mentioned and disallowed strangulation, my guess is going to be asphixiation (bag over her face). I think they need to do tissue tests to prove this, unlike strangulation where they can tell by damage to the neck.

just a guess

 

[human]

So people in the know. If that is tape with blood in it, where do people think they were driving to?

Did the hunk of tape blow over there or fall out?

Why is there tape with blood separate from the body?

She was wrapped in a tarp as well as her body being in a garbage bag. Where would the tape come from to be loose?

How big is that tape? Small? Looks big.

 

[human]

Did someone remove that tape from the bundle? If it's tape it looks like black tape to me.

I have tried to remove tape from plastic when wrapping a package to be mailed because I goofed it up.

Removing tape on plastic cannot be done if it is duct tape.

Electrical tape is not as aggressive.

It just does not seem like the tape would fall off of her body because of the multiple wrappings.

Any ideas?

 

[Threeplus1]

So people in the know. If that is tape with blood in it, where do people think they were driving to?

Did the hunk of tape blow over there or fall out?

Why is there tape with blood separate from the body?

She was wrapped in a tarp as well as her body being in a garbage bag. Where would the tape come from to be loose?

How big is that tape? Small? Looks big.

I don't know...it looks more like a hard plastic to me...there's two lighter spots that look like screws or something. I've blown it up and turned it all around, but I think it's a picture of a picture.

 

[21merc7]

I'm not going to help with the photo of the black thing.

It looks to me like it is cloth. Could be a strap, belt, car tie, or even a fanny pack.

How's that for confusion?

 

[Brightbird]

I have tried to remove tape from plastic when wrapping a package to be mailed because I goofed it up.

Removing tape on plastic cannot be done if it is duct tape.

Electrical tape is not as aggressive.

It just does not seem like the tape would fall off of her body because of the multiple wrappings.

Any ideas?

My only thought is that if the kids moved the tarp and unwrapped it at all, then the tape could have come away. But like you say, duct tape is pretty sticky. Maybe the kids pulled some tape off before realising what they were dealing with.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I don't either.

a) if death was accident, even if there was neglect, I don't think "most" parents would try to hide that......or they'd try to make it look like a different kind of accident - i.e., I can't imagine many mothers or fathers would stage and discard their daughter in such a heinous way if it was an accident they were trying to cover up

b) LE actions (along w/ the way she was found) imply that, unfortunately, there was sexual abuse involved in her death (interviewing area RSOs, statements about waiting for DNA results, etc)
* if it was sexual abuse in the family, I would think they would try to make it look like an accident (drown, fell/trauma) and get rid of anything that would make LE go down the sex abuse road instead of lead them directly to it
* if there was family involvement, they would have more time than anyone to clean up scene/body, make it look like anything other than what it was.....it's summer so it's not like she was expected at school on Tuesday; I would think a guilty family would take advantage of that instead of leaving so much evidence on body they were transporting

But then again, the problem with my reasoning is thinking that someone who would do this thinks the way that I do, so..............

The autopsy would show what the correct COD was despite the staging. So let's say, something happens and Alanna ends up dead, and the parents throw her body in the pool, call 911, and say she drowned. Wouldn't the autopsy show that she really didn't drown? Also, they couldn't claim that she fell, unless her injuries were consistent with a fall.

 

[Wondergirl]

twoodard8 Teresa Woodard 2 Jul

Pic of our camera's screen. FBI evidence collectors appeared to zero in on piece of plastic in road.

https://twitter.com/twoodard8/status/351929921033076736/photo/1

 

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