GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #5

[cypress]

Nobody staged a murder. They simply dumped a body. The cause of death wasn't even apparent.

Let's pretend for a minute that she was wandering around and saw the pool of the neighbor 3 doors down. She knocks but nobody comes to the door. She takes off her clothes and jumps in the pool in her underwear, and drowns. The neighbor comes home and finds her floating in the pool.

Hypothetically, that neighbor doesn't have homeowners insurance. He FREAKS out -- "I don't even know this kid! I'm not going to risk losing my home and everything I own because the meddling kid used my pool!" So he wraps her in a tarp, binding her legs for easier transport, drives her a mile away and dumps her, then quickly drives home and disposes of her clothes.

I think we need to consider this as a possibility! Seems entirely possible to me!

But would he put a bag over her head?

 

[Pensfan]

Does anyone know where the picture is located of the plastic thing found on the road near the orange cone? I wonder if that is a plastic strap holder that goes onto a bike helmet, but I can't find the photo now. I think Bessie posted it. It was posted last night.

 

[ArianeEmory]

But would he put a bag over her head?

Shame because he's still doing something wrong? To catch fluid still coming out of her lungs? (Ok, I don't know anything about drowning post-mortem whatsoever.)

If she did drown, and they know it, it would explain the "isolated incident" crap. But they may still be trying to figure out where and who dumped her.

And I'm back to thinking about neighborhood kids/teens. (Specifically, a lot of the swimming pool games we made up when I was a kid--like the ever popular "see how long you can stay underwater")

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If Alanna died in an accident, and her body was to be dumped, why did the perp put a bag over her head, bound, and gag her? If they didn't expect anyone to find her, why even bother with all that staging? Just a precaution incase she was found oneday?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Okay, I can see that!

I assume it was more for clarification/process/general info than giving their medical opinion on the case, though? Most (doctors in general) that I know won't second guess someone else's work unless they have to.

(By "have to", I mean second opinion is ordered by someone w/ authority to do so, they are granted access to patient/materials used in diagnosis - in autopsy example would incl photos, original slides & tissue blocks for their own recuts/stains, clinical results/samples, etc). And then they will generate and sign their own report.

* Seriously - not trying to be one of the "asshats" I referenced previously. The way I perceived your statement just really surprised me, is all! *

Yes, specific question about arsenic poison & liver samples and half life and levels being so vastly different in different organs IIRC.

 

[fred&edna]

Does anyone know where the picture is located of the plastic thing found on the road near the orange cone? I wonder if that is a plastic strap holder that goes onto a bike helmet, but I can't find the photo now. I think Bessie posted it. It was posted last night.

Is this it??


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOJOZgmCAAAO_3P.jpg:large

 

[JaimeInLA]

But would he put a bag over her head?

Well, he's hypothetical, so who knows! Lol! I mean, I wouldn't want to look at a dead child's face, no matter how she died.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Shame because he's still doing something wrong? To catch fluid still coming out of her lungs? (Ok, I don't know anything about drowning post-mortem whatsoever.)

If she did drown, and they know it, it would explain the "isolated incident" crap. But they may still be trying to figure out where and who dumped her.

And I'm back to thinking about neighborhood kids/teens. (Specifically, a lot of the swimming pool games we made up when I was a kid--like the ever popular "see how long you can stay underwater")

Or a older bigger kid drowned her, playing dunking game...parents panic,

 

[revampz]

I like the roof rack theory above.

I mean that is awful enough, but this is just so awful, a little girl found under a tarp just on the side of the road, restrained with a bag over her head!!!! it is just so disrespectful to another human being...

so I am hoping it is something like the above, where maybe something accidental happened that someone is scared will get them trouble, therefore transporting her body to bury her and the whole thing has come undone and she has toppled off, tarp and all, and in fear of being seen they have scampered....

 

[Pensfan]

If Alanna died in an accident, and her body was to be dumped, why did the perp put a bag over her head, bound, and gag her? If they didn't expect anyone to find her, why even bother with all that staging? Just a precaution incase she was found oneday?

She was dumped in a nice residential neighborhood. It is logical to assume that the creep knew she would be found quickly by someone.

If she was dumped in the desert where no one would likely find her, IMO, it would be more odd for all that staging to have occurred.

 

[JaimeInLA]

If Alanna died in an accident, and her body was to be dumped, why did the perp put a bag over her head, bound, and gag her? If they didn't expect anyone to find her, why even bother with all that staging? Just a precaution incase she was found oneday?

She was gagged?! Do you have a link for that? It's totally new to me.

 

[fred&edna]

But would he put a bag over her head?

It was discussed earlier that maybe the perp taped her arms and legs to transport her to the vehicle. So, it's possible the same might be said of the bag as it would prevent her hair from getting caught on something while moving her.

 

[JaimeInLA]

It was discussed earlier that maybe the perp taped her arms and legs to transport her to vehicle. So, it's possible the same might be said of the bag as it would prevent her hair from getting caught on something while moving her.

Or to keep her hair from falling off into his truck. Everyone knows about trace evidence these days.

 

[Pensfan]

Is this it??


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOJOZgmCAAAO_3P.jpg:large

Yes, thank you. Does anyone have bike helmets sitting around? Please look inside where the straps attach and see if this looks similar. tia
The last helmet my daughter purchased had a triangle thing which attached to the helmet. The straps attached to the triangle plastic thing.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Or to keep her hair from falling off into his truck. Everyone knows about trace evidence these days.

Good call.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I wish we had a sense of scale of the mystery object. It just looks like a discarded piece of clothing to me. I never saw "plastic" when I look at it.

 

[Linda7NJ]

She was gagged?! Do you have a link for that? It's totally new to me.

It's way back on the thread where we discussed toilet paper. I've seen it reported in one article... I can't recall if it was MSM or it was deleted cause it just looked like MSM. HTH

 

[ArianeEmory]

Also worth rementioning: when I checked google maps a few days ago, I couldn't find pools near Alanna's house, unless the things that look like trampolines are actually covered above-ground pools. There are, however, more pools visible in the next neighborhood down, where she was left.

 

[human]

My train of thought just went like this:

Maybe no car involved at all? -> possible teen involvement -> Autumn Pasquale -> I wonder how closely they checked out the occupants of the houses not closest to, but maybe a few doors down from, the dump site.

(AP's teen killers put her in the garbage bin of the house next door.)

How did she get to be a mile away?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

She was dumped in a nice residential neighborhood. It is logical to assume that the creep knew she would be found quickly by someone.

If she was dumped in the desert where no one would likely find her, IMO, it would be more odd for all that staging to have occurred.

I meant if the perp was driving to dump her in a body of water or somewhere she wouldn't be found quickly, but the body fell out of his car accidentally, why bother with the staging?