GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #7

[GingerzMomma]

I was raised differently and so were my kids. We always called because it is good manners. The people you want to visit may have company, are sick, or just plain do not want you that day.

I would never drop in on anyone even as an adult. But that is standard in the area where I live.

I agree about it being good manners. I also think that when you have lived somewhere for awhile, your kids play together every. single. day., you are both busy moms with other kids.....that level of formality drops after awhile.

 

[chissus]

I NEVER answer if I'm home alone. I know someone who was attacked by a "salesman".

Back on topic, I keep thinking the person who did this is in the neighborhood she was found, and was just passing through hers. I wonder how many people that Alanna would have know from church or school or whatever live on Cindy or Round Rock?

I always answer the door with my cell phone pressed to my ear

 

[skibaboo]

Didn't I read somewhere that a grandparent answered the door at the friend's house and said the grandchild wasn't there? Does anybody else remember reading that?

Thank you, I was about to post, I was starting to think I imagined it. Didn't they say she knocked on their door around 5pm but her grand kids were not home?

I've tried to search MSM for it but no luck :dunno:

 

[texashello]

I drove past the intersection again today where she was left. On the way home I passed a van that was stopped working on utilities, (cable or phone) and then passed a van carrying parcels. Not in that neighborhood but a couple of miles away. Someone working might have been in a hurry, just a thought, I imagine LE is looking into those sorts of scenarios.

 

[texashello]

Thank you, I was about to post, I was starting to think I imagined it. Didn't they say she knocked on their door around 5pm but her grand kids were not home?

I've tried to search MSM for it but no luck :dunno:

That's what I remember reading also, I'm trying to find the article too.

 

[human]

I agree about it being good manners. I also think that when you have lived somewhere for awhile, your kids play together every. single. day., you are both busy moms with other kids.....that level of formality drops after awhile.

My friend who has been my friend for 50 years lives a few miles from me. Our children are friends and so are the grandchildren.

Perhaps it is the area that I am from, but I would never drop in on her. And she calls me if she is going to come over.

When kids are playing out in the yard, it is different to me. But to go into someone's home is more intrusive, to me.

When my kids were growing up, there were children here day and night. We live in the country, three miles out of town. But to the city folk, we might as well have been on Mars. So my kids had constant sleepovers at our house after I went to get the kids because we lived so far out.

 

[CHERIE.T]

What is a bulk trash day? There is no bulk trash day around here. I put everything out. If the items are big (like furniture) I have to specifically order the pick up from a company and pay for it. And if this perp wanted the body to be removed as trash, body of a small child is not bulky. It's not furniture. It would fit in a large trash bag. So why didn't this perp just put the body in a large trash bag if removal was the goal?

:seeya: jjenny.
In my neck of the woods we have 3 different pickups by 3 different trucks on trash day.
We have our regular trash, recycling and bulk.
:moo:

 

[GingerzMomma]

That's what I remember reading also, I'm trying to find the article too.

I think it was in a video interview and not a written story? I'd look for the early ones (2nd, 3rd, 4th of July)......

 

[elmomom]

In my book reviewing what the parents did/did not do in order "to learn from their mistakes" is a euphemism for "we want to criticize their parenting". Which can also be described as "bashing"

Really folks? Haven't we discussed, and discussed and discussed their parenting over and over and over? Isn't it time to give it a rest?

The way I see it, people have this unremitting need to point at the actions of the parents so that they can say to themselves "see! I would never do that so this COULD NEVER happen to my child"

Real life smacks you in the face sometimes, because this can happen to ANY child, whether you are a control freak of a parent or not. To live is to gamble. There are always risks. And not taking risks means not really living.

 

[human]

That's what I remember reading also, I'm trying to find the article too.

Was it an article or a video? I know it exists as well.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Didn't I read somewhere that a grandparent answered the door at the friend's house and said the grandchild wasn't there? Does anybody else remember reading that?

For some reason I remembered it as the person was leaving , when she came over and they told her not to wait, for the grandchildren. Left her standing in the driveway.

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

However erroneously, and however much she kicks herself for it now, LG told me she did not call the police at first because she thought they would blow her off. And she had the "24 hours missing person" thing in her head, not knowing that doesn't necessarily apply to children.

Just a curiosity question for you...
And welcome to Web-sleuths and thank you for coming here.

My curiosity question to you is have you ever seen for yourself the child taking bicycle or motor bike rides with any so called older friends of hers in the neighborhood?....And older i mean late teens , young men not other children.

This case is strange........But there was a motive in this. And I don't believe for now it was for a sexual assault...More of a thrill kill than a predator type killing...........more like a child sacrifice, and no I am not implying any occult connection to this heinous murder.

 

[human]

In my book reviewing what the parents did/did not do in order "to learn from their mistakes" is a euphemism for "we want to criticize their parenting". Which can also be described as "bashing"

Really folks? Haven't we discussed, and discussed and discussed their parenting over and over and over? Isn't it time to give it a rest?

The way I see it, people have this unremitting need to point at the actions of the parents so that they can say to themselves "see! I would never do that so this COULD NEVER happen to my child"

Real life smacks you in the face sometimes, because this can happen to ANY child, whether you are a control freak of a parent or not. To live is to gamble. There are always risks. And not taking risks means not really living.

Me, I am done raising my children but I have grandchildren.

I thank the universe or whatever that nothing happened to my children the numerous times that it could have. Like the time 30 years ago hubby and I each were at the video store thinking the other took my son home.

My son was almost 4 and recognized hubby's boss who called our home. Hubby got home before I did. I had called for my son in the tiny store, but he did not answer. Learned from that one.

Plenty more, but won't bore you.

My grandkids come over all of the time, and this has increased my vigilance.

I am relearning and reupping my vigilance. Can they run to the bathroom at the Little League game with the open fields. Um , no. People can do as they wish

 

[matou]

For some reason I remembered it as the person was leaving , when she came over and they told her not to wait, for the grandchildren. Left her standing in the driveway.

That's what I remember too. Telling her not to wait. I think that came from a poster here and most of that info went poof because it was not substantiated. JMO

 

[lishac23]

I always answer the door with my cell phone pressed to my ear

With kids constantly knocking on my door, I have a bad habit of just opening the door assuming its one of them. I have made a mental note NEVER to do that again! Thanks!

 

[iamnotagolem]

In my book reviewing what the parents did/did not do in order "to learn from their mistakes" is a euphemism for "we want to criticize their parenting". Which can also be described as "bashing"

Really folks? Haven't we discussed, and discussed and discussed their parenting over and over and over? Isn't it time to give it a rest?

The way I see it, people have this unremitting need to point at the actions of the parents so that they can say to themselves "see! I would never do that so this COULD NEVER happen to my child"

Real life smacks you in the face sometimes, because this can happen to ANY child, whether you are a control freak of a parent or not. To live is to gamble. There are always risks. And not taking risks means not really living.

Regarding "this could never happen to my child", I know that this could happen to anyone. But after reading case after case after case after case of abducted and murdered children, discussing what the parents should and shouldn't have done has impacted what I do/will do with my children. So I do feel it is productive in that it effects my actions, I'm sure there are others here that feel the same way.

I followed Lisa Irwin, while I don't think she was abducted, I'm more hypervigilant about double checking to make sure the doors are locked. Since following the Celina Cass murder I make sure that there is no access from the basement (even if that isn't how Celina disappeared, knowing that it was an easy entrance has adjusted the way I view things).

 

[lishac23]

For some reason I remembered it as the person was leaving , when she came over and they told her not to wait, for the grandchildren. Left her standing in the driveway.

So we do know for a fact that she made it to the friends house? Was that the last sighting of her? How far away was the friends? Apologize in advance if this has already been the focus of other discussion. I've missed quite a bit and trying to catch up.

 

[skibaboo]

That's what I remember too. Telling her not to wait. I think that came from a poster here and most of that info went poof because it was not substantiated. JMO

Ok maybe its the heat and I'm going loopy, but I see a woman with grey hair and glasses saying it, in a video... :scared:

ETA: I think you're right, and I'm loopy

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9653191&postcount=953

 

[GingerzMomma]

Ok maybe its the heat and I'm going loopy, but I see a woman with grey hair and glasses saying it, in a video... :scared:

Then I'm overheated and loopy along with you; that's what I remember, too.

(although I do also remember someone saying they were a neighbor and saying some things on early threads, before I was here maybe?, and I don't think they ever got verified?)

 

[briTCU]

I just drove through Cindy and Round Rock and everything is gone! Not a single stuffed animal, flower, or even the beautiful wood cross that someone spent a lot of time on! Does anyone know if this stuff has been moved to Alanna's home or grave? I will go by her parent's house on my way home to see. It hasn't been long enough for this stuff to be removed. Sad.