GUILTY TX - Alicia Moore, 16, Greenville, 2 November 2012

[Ransom]

The way i'm seeing it is that the aunt is friends on FB with Whetstone

I see the same.

 

[SurfieTX]

Has anyone found Resmire 's record? I'm wondering if he has any felony drug charges in his past.

 

[demetra]

I know she is a mom but for what its worth, I have no clue how Whetstone mom can stand there and cover for him so quickly,after reading his entire fb and seeing a post straight disrespecting her and her man with IMO violence I don't get it! Plus she said herself that someone seen her son and Alicia at her house,I am not bashing the mom at all i just don't understand how and why the first reaction is "its not my child" I would not consider lying or covering up for my son i would be honest no matter how bad it hurt!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

That's been the opinion of a lot of people, it seems.

Another poster above (sorry, I forget which one ), asked a good question. How did the 49-year-old Ramsire have access to Alicia to sexually assault her? Was it random or what?

I am behind in reading... But the report says MULTIPLE accounts of assault...

I, too, am wondering how he had access to Alicia multiple times in one month...(June or July... Can't remember which... Sorry)

JMO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

GREENVILLE — Here is what we know at this point concerning Terry Dwayne Ramsire and Tobias Whetstone, two Greenville men whom some media outlets have alleged had ties to the murder of Alicia Moore.

http://heraldbanner.com/topnews/x691735783/What-we-know-about-Terry-Ramsire-and-Tobias-Whetstone

Do as I say, not as I do. My Opinion Only.

this report states Alicia was assaulted multiple times in July... By Ramsire...

 

[jennapuppy]

I am behind in reading... But the report says MULTIPLE accounts of assault...

I, too, am wondering how he had access to Alicia multiple times in one month...(June or July... Can't remember which... Sorry)

JMO

Is it possible that they were involved in some kind of relationship and, when mom found out, she reported him?
And he was mad at Alicia for not stating that it was "consensual"? (even though, legally, it can't be consensual if he's 49 and she's 16)

 

[Ransom]

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/tobias-whetstone/242332/

 

[Indy Anna]

I don't remember it ever being suggested that TW was arrested for suspicion of murder. But, he is connected to the Moore family and to Ramsire, so has a possible connection to the case. IMO, TW has been questioned in relation to Alicia's murder, as inferred by his mother. IMO, it is Alicia's family who are providing these tips to LE; they are the ones fueling the investigation.

I noticed on TW's FB page that he has gone from "engaged" to "single" (look at the bullying post). His mother, IMO, knows something about the fight between TW and his fiancee. Was it related to Alicia's murder? I've a feeling it was.

 

[Elainera]

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/tobias-whetstone/242332/

He seems like a regular customer of LE.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Is it possible that they were involved in some kind of relationship and, when mom found out, she reported him?
And he was mad at Alicia for not stating that it was "consensual"? (even though, legally, it can't be consensual if he's 49 and she's 16)

I am wondering if an adult in Alicia's family was in a friend or romantic relationship with him...

and being the creep that he is... Took advantage of that relationship to get to the young girl?

Just thoughts without any links to back it up...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/tobias-whetstone/242332/

what I saw was assault.. And threat of assault.. On a public servant...

does public servant mean police officer.... Or what else do y'all think it could mean? :waitasec:

 

[KALI]

Can't go back to read, working. Tia

 

[Indy Anna]

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/tobias-whetstone/242332/

Doesn't look like he's been out of prison very long. What is the assault on a public servant? Does that mean he assaulted prison staff while in prison?

TY

 

[Ransom]

what I saw was assault.. And threat of assault.. On a public servant...

does public servant mean police officer.... Or what else do y'all think it could mean? :waitasec:

Here it is:
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/22.07.00.html

22.07 (a) 4-6 apply

 

[nikb]

I know she is a mom but for what its worth, I have no clue how Whetstone mom can stand there and cover for him so quickly,after reading his entire fb and seeing a post straight disrespecting her and her man with IMO violence I don't get it! Plus she said herself that someone seen her son and Alicia at her house,I am not bashing the mom at all i just don't understand how and why the first reaction is "its not my child" I would not consider lying or covering up for my son i would be honest no matter how bad it hurt!

My sense was that she's either pretty naive about what her son's up to, in denial, or defensive of her family no matter what. I also feel pretty strongly she probably doesn't use FB and hasn't seen many of those photos and posts. I'm not a mom but if I were I know I'd be shocked thinking "nooo not my baby, he'd never say or do that!" When the 'kid' visits his mom I doubt he shows up in gang gear and has her check out his new gun or seductive pics of his girlfriend(?) with the gun and bullets. Please no one let this start a rumor that Alicia was shot. I have no idea other than the "trauma" reported in MSM. I'm just saying I was pretty caught off guard by all the gang and gun pics on this guy's FB page.

I'm not bashing his mom or aunt either, I think they're both victims too and I feel really sad for them. MOO.

 

[Indy Anna]

what I saw was assault.. And threat of assault.. On a public servant...

does public servant mean police officer.... Or what else do y'all think it could mean? :waitasec:

The second charge was one month after beginning his prison sentence, so I think he was incarcerated on the "terror threat" charge at the time. Terror threat sounds really ominous.

 

[Ransom]

Here it is:
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/22.07.00.html

22.07 (a) 4-6 apply

Further reading here: JMO
This is a felony conviction = Texas has his DNA on file through CODIS.

 

[jennapuppy]

Doesn't look like he's been out of prison very long. What is the assault on a public servant? Does that mean he assaulted prison staff while in prison?

TY

So, while W was in prison, R made a deal with him to get retribution against Alicia for him when he got out?

 

[Ransom]

The second charge was one month after beginning his prison sentence, so I think he was incarcerated on the "terror threat" charge at the time. Terror threat sounds really ominous.

Falls County arrested him for a charge and returned him to Hunt County for his previous charge:

http://www.marlindemocrat.com/news/article_8e650ba6-95b8-5503-a8e9-32c2885536e6.html?mode=print

This guy likes to run off and hide.

 

[Ransom]

So, while W was in prison, R made a deal with him to get retribution against Alicia for him when he got out?

NO. R was incarcerated in Sept, 2012 for allegedly SA on Alicia in July 2012. W was out of prison by then.