Found Deceased TX - Andrea Ratliff, 33, Denison, 22 November 2016

[klily444]

Why is her hair color described as: "bleached blonde"? Probably a man entering the data, no doubt. Seems disrespectful.

How about a description for a man's hair color as: red toupee (a/k/a "red rug")? Oh, I don't know. I just need to complain about something, to express my anger over what seems to be yet another one gone missing, but not of her own accord.

It was her sister who provided the "bleached blonde" for hair color. It is likely because often times, Andrea would wear her hair in a dark auburn color. Right now, it was bleached blonde, but that's not her natural color and that was the best way her sister could convey that.

 

[otto]

Why is her hair color described as: "bleached blonde"? Probably a man entering the data, no doubt. Seems disrespectful.

How about a description for a man's hair color as: red toupee (a/k/a "red rug")? Oh, I don't know. I just need to complain about something, to express my anger over what seems to be yet another one gone missing, but not of her own accord.

Is she a natural blond?

 

[otto]

Oh why must this keep happening?

How likely is it she ended her own life? This sounds too much like Brianna Cuoco. I hope Andrea gets better justice if she was indeed murdered.

I'm wondering if they lived in a detached home, or whether they were in a condo or apartment. Is there any kind of CCTV footage of her walking to the river?

 

[otto]

This is interesting:

"I've done many of those things and you always hope to find everything okay, and we didn't this time."

There's no official confirmation the body is Andrea Ratliff.

Since the body was found in the Red River, it is in Oklahoma's jurisdiction. The Bryan County Sheriff's Office said the body was sent to the chief medical examiner in Oklahoma City, where official identification will be made as well as an autopsy."

http://www.kxii.com/content/news/Body-found-in-Red-River-403025706.html

Do I understand correctly that a drone first detected the body and a nearby distraught man? What's the story there? Was the boyfriend searching at that location when they found the body?

Different jurisdictions is interesting too - that it happened by chance when it is so advantageous in murder.

 

[Elise]

Why is her hair color described as: "bleached blonde"? Probably a man entering the data, no doubt. Seems disrespectful.

How about a description for a man's hair color as: red toupee (a/k/a "red rug")? Oh, I don't know. I just need to complain about something, to express my anger over what seems to be yet another one gone missing, but not of her own accord.

Your "red rug" comment made me laugh, thanks for that. If it helps you feel a teeny bit less angry, most people I know outside of some hair stylists and some of us that have actually had (or tried to achieve) that hair color, refer to it as "bleached blonde." They aren't trying to be rude when they say it, it's just the term they use for that particular hair color. When they're trying to be rude, they usually go with "bottle blonde" instead.

RIP Andrea.

EDIT: Also, I'm with otto on this one. Something doesn't seem right about it.

 

[otto]

"Denison Police Department, responded to the scene just south of the bridge down a steep hillside next to Carpenters Bluff Road in Grayson County."
...
“Right at this point, we have no positive identification of who the person is,” Eppler said Friday afternoon."
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She was reported missing by her boyfriend, Eppler said, and the boyfriend told police that they had gotten into an argument Monday night and he left the house. The next morning he said she was gone, and he could not locate her. "

http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20161125/authorities-investigating-body-found-in-red-river

Has his story changed? I thought I read earlier that they had a fight, he went to sleep, and when he woke up she was gone.

 

[otto]

Here it is:

"Ratliff's boyfriend Joe White tells police they had a fight the night before she left, but when he woke up, she was gone."

http://www.kxii.com/content/news/Body-found-in-Red-River-403025706.html

Did the reporters get it wrong, or did the boyfriend's story change?

 

[otto]

They had a fight and then what actually happened ... she left, he left, he woke up and she was gone, he came home and she was gone? Was his original story that he went to sleep, but there's something suggesting that he was out that night, so his story changed and he came home to find her missing?

... or did the reporters screw up?

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http://www.kxii.com/content/news/Body-found-in-Red-River-403025706.html
http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20161125/authorities-investigating-body-found-in-red-river

 

[otto]

From the articles as well, they lived in a 'house' rather than apartment or condo. Three miles is still a long way to walk before hurtling herself over a bluff into the river. A question for people who live in, or are familiar with, the area - how likely is it there is CCTV footage?

Do we have an address ... like the approximate location of her house that we can look at in relation to the point in the river where the body was found ... on the Oklahoma side of the state line?

 

[otto]

This pedestrian trestle bridge doesn't help to rule out suicide or murder

http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20161125/authorities-investigating-body-found-in-red-river

 

[okiloki]

Do we know how far she had to walk in the middle of the night to get to the river?

I don't think she walked, it's 8 miles on a dark, two lane highway and it was cold that night. Her phone was found on the bridge and it was turned off. I live about 20 miles from where she lived.

 

[okiloki]

She lived in a small detatched house and there are no cameras on that highway. I can't believe she walked 8 miles on that highway to the bridge. She would have had to walk east across town to get to that two lane road then walk 7 more miles in the dark and cold. The road is scary and it winds and has sharp curves with no shoulders. She would have been hit before she made it. Someone had to have driven her there. There are other places she could have used if she was going to jump like the dam, our huge lake with cliffs and tall buildings in Denison.

 

[okiloki]

923 West Bond Street

Denison, TX 75020

Head west on W Bond St toward N Chandler Ave

164 ft

Turn left at the 1st cross street onto N Chandler Ave

394 ft

Turn left at the 1st cross street onto W Morton St

0.7 mi

Turn right onto N Austin Ave/N Eisenhower Pkwy

0.3 mi

Turn left onto W Main St

1.0 mi

Continue onto FM120 E

6.5 mi

Turn left onto Carpenters Bluff Rd/N3715

Destination will be on the right

322 ft

Carpenter's Bluff Bridge

5354 Carpenters Bluff Road, Denison, TX 75021

 

[EA18G]

Denison, TX - Birthplace of President Dwight Eisenhower. I am familiar with downtown Denison and the Eisenhower park. Interested in reviewing Google maps to see the route she took.

Always wondered who lives in the huge mansion on Hwy 69 south of Denison.

 

[otto]

I agree that walking is out of the question

 

[KATIS]

Is this going to be ruled a suicide?

I have a problem with a fight leading to him going to sleep and then she turned off her phone, sneaked out of the house in the middle of the night, and walked three miles to drown herself. Unless she has a history of mental illness, that just does not make sense. Is he that passive?

My daughter knows Joe White, which of course would be in question. She has told me he actually has a physical disability that would make it unlikely he was involved in her dissappearance. She also said he is a very passive guy.
Hearts are heavy in our community today.

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[otto]

My daughter knows Joe White, which of course would be in question. She has told me he actually has a physical disability that would make it unlikely he was involved in her dissappearance. She also said he is a very passive guy.
Hearts are heavy in our community today.

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Fair enough. She didn't have a car, her phone was turned off, and there are conflicting reports about whether he left, or she left, after the fight. Either way, he consistently reports that in the morning - whether he woke up or returned home - she was gone. It should be easy enough to verify where he was if he wasn't at home.

Assuming that the boyfriend is a witness, what would the scenario be? She left the apartment, was grabbed off the street, taken to the bluff and thrown off the bridge?

 

[okiloki]

The huge burgandy mansion or the white one?

 

[mraccountant]

Walking is highly unlikely - i suspect foul play

 

[okiloki]

The only route to that spot is to go east on Main St until it becomes a two lane highway. Otherwise, she would have to go to Colbert and cross over and that would be impossible to walk.