CONVICTION OVERTURNED TX - Andrew Burd, 4, dies of salt poisoning, Corpus Christi, 2 Oct 2006

What exactly is PICA? Is it some type of an eating disorder or have to do with this little boy being hungary all of the time? There is no excuse for that woman giving that little boy that junk to drink. He is only 4 years old. Why not give him some more chili? If she didn't want to give him more chili then why not some type of snacks that would at least fill him up?

This family must have known that this little guy had problems when they took him. From what their own children say...this couple should never have planned to adopt this little boy. Making him stay in his room for days at a time! Not giving him anything to eat when he was being punished! He is only 4 years old. Why not a time out like most kids get.

I hope that mother doesn't get an appeal. She was abusive to him according to her own kids. Her and her husband waited hours before taking him to the hospital. If that had been one of their own children you know they would have had him/her to the hospital in a matter of minutes. Horrible.
 
After watching 20/20 and especially after hearing from the child's doctor and an expert on PIKA (pica?), I do not think this woman killed her son. It was obvious that the lead investigator and a couple of the jurors did not have a strong understanding of the charges, which is a damn shame.


Please don't make excuses for this woman. I'm sure she didn't mean to kill him but who makes their children drink chili water? Then beats them because they get sick and vomit. She made him lay in bed and not even get out to go to the bathroom. This is abusive behavior.
 
What exactly is PICA? Is it some type of an eating disorder or have to do with this little boy being hungary all of the time? There is no excuse for that woman giving that little boy that junk to drink. He is only 4 years old. Why not give him some more chili? If she didn't want to give him more chili then why not some type of snacks that would at least fill him up?

This family must have known that this little guy had problems when they took him. From what their own children say...this couple should never have planned to adopt this little boy. Making him stay in his room for days at a time! Not giving him anything to eat when he was being punished! He is only 4 years old. Why not a time out like most kids get.

I hope that mother doesn't get an appeal. She was abusive to him according to her own kids. Her and her husband waited hours before taking him to the hospital. If that had been one of their own children you know they would have had him/her to the hospital in a matter of minutes. Horrible.

Yes, pica is an eating disorder:
http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/pica.html
Pica is also a behavior that may surface in children who've had a brain injury affecting their development. It can also be a problem for some pregnant women, as well as people with epilepsy.
People with pica frequently crave and consume nonfood items such as:

  • dirt
  • clay
  • paint chips
  • plaster
  • chalk
  • cornstarch
  • laundry starch
  • baking soda
  • coffee grounds
  • cigarette ashes
  • burnt match heads
  • cigarette butts
  • feces
  • ice
  • glue
  • hair
  • buttons
  • paper
  • sand
  • toothpaste
  • soap
 
It could also be that the child had profound early food starvation.

If a child is left hungry on a continual basis, then food is their security. They will ask about it, want more, only because the psychological damage continues.

They are afraid of being extremely hungry.

A friends mother - grew up in Germany, went hungry because of the war. For years, she has hoarded food, feeds people when they say no, ensures that there is more food then anyone could ever eat, and if someone says, do you mind if I have a small snack, she literally goes into a panic that someone
in her house may be hungry. Her kids learned to say no at an early age to avoid being "fed" to much.

We are talking about a women and husband who own a successful business employing 200 people, and live in a custom house.

But when I hang up my coat, there are cases of juice in the closet.

She drops over food to her daughter, without being asked.

So I feel the case for Andrew is a difficult childhood. There was a reason why he was in Foster Care. Don't blame a little boy, who though no fault of his own ended up in the "house of horrors" with a "so called" Mom like Hannah.

She might not have known that the salt would kill the boy, but it seems that she wanted to "hurt" him and harm him. The fact that she was more concerned about herself, when a child was dying, speaks volumes.

She deserves to be where she is, she is unfit to be a Mom to any child.
 
I agree she shouldn't have gave him the sippy cup. However in the 20/20 report, it was specifically stated that the boy got into a salt container prior to being given the sippy cup. Neglect yes, murder no. I beleive that this was a case where she fell asleep (like she stated) and woke up to find the boy eating salt out of a container. Then fed him chili, and gave him the sippy cup not even putting two and two together. That it could be a salt overdose.
 
Please don't make excuses for this woman. I'm sure she didn't mean to kill him but who makes their children drink chili water? Then beats them because they get sick and vomit. She made him lay in bed and not even get out to go to the bathroom. This is abusive behavior.


I am not sure where your getting this information from. But on 20/20 they said that he frequently vomited, and attempted to eat it. He also had diareha the day he died, and attemtpted to eat that. Hence the reaso the sheets were burned, because everytime they put the sheets in the garbage he would get them out, and attemtp to eat what was on them.

Where has it been proven that he was beat?

The marks that I saw were scratches, and can be explained like he was scratchinga bug bite. If he had PICA, then he probably had other issues, including scratching till he bled.This was stated by the sunday school teacher who SAW him do it on several occasions. It was proven he had PICA by a few drs, but the jury did not get to hear that. The jury also did not get to hear that the boy had behaviroul issues.

In my own opinion, the prosecutor hung her out to dry. I beleive that if they jury would ahve heard that he suffered from PICA, and other behaviour issues, they wouldn't have convicted her of murder, but probably child neglect as well of assualt if he in fact was beat. the beating did not lead to his death. The salt intake did.

I do no beleive for one second that she is guilty of murder. I beleive she is guilty of neglect but not murder.
 
Lie: Hannah used Zatarain's Seasoning to punish Andrew
Truth: Andrew would finish a meal and always want more; if he did not get more he would often get very upset. Concerned about this, Hannah had asked someone familiar with eating disorders in foster children how to curb this fixation with food. They suggested putting something they may not like on their food once they had eaten enough. They had tried lemon prior to this but it did not work. The day before she had tried Zatarain’s but he ended up liking it. Behavior modification out of a concern for his health showed love and is much different than punishment.
 
Lie: There was evidence of months of abuse
Truth: Four to Six days before the incident Ana Billeaux from Spaulding Adoption had visited Andrew and found him happy and outwardly healthy in his new home. This is when Hannah had brought up the subject with her concerning his eating disorders and Anna was going to get her more information.

The prosecution found it amazing that a 4 ½ year old boy would have any bruising at all. The bruises on his knees match the benches at the kitchen table. Most of the other bruising and bottom redness was explained by Dr. Melenik, the board-certified medical examiner as being caused by the immediate inability of the blood to clot after someone stops breathing and the blood becomes acidic as well as a contact dermatitis, such as diaper rash. Andrew was in this condition when he was moved from car to UCC to ambulance to Emergency room at South to ambulance to Emergency room at Driscoll to ICU at Driscoll. Then the autopsy took place two days later while his blood continues to pool and seep from his pours and every small bump or bruise. Scratches on the upper back were vertical and consistent with reaching over your shoulder and scratching your own back. Testimony from the woman who lived in the home with the Overton family for months was that there was no abuse only love and no abuse was evident to any of the children’s ministers at the church.
 
Lie: Hannah waited and watched Andrew die waiting nearly three hours to get him medical help.
Truth: Hannah treated his symptoms, he was cold, she put him in blankets and laid him in bed, he was still cold and they put him in a warm bath. He seemed to be wheezing, she gave him a breathing treatment, when he did not respond she rushed him to the hospital and on the way he stopped breathing. She gave him CPR in the car and again at the urgent care clinic until the paramedics arrived. From the first signs of symptoms to the UCC it was 1:49 which became nearly 3 hours when reported by the media. This timeframe was repeated for at least 9 months in the media.
 
I agree she shouldn't have gave him the sippy cup. However in the 20/20 report, it was specifically stated that the boy got into a salt container prior to being given the sippy cup. Neglect yes, murder no. I beleive that this was a case where she fell asleep (like she stated) and woke up to find the boy eating salt out of a container. Then fed him chili, and gave him the sippy cup not even putting two and two together. That it could be a salt overdose.


I thought she said she woke up from her 'meds' nap and saw him in the cabinet. Not that she specifically saw him in the food cabinet eating salt.
 
I thought she said she woke up from her 'meds' nap and saw him in the cabinet. Not that she specifically saw him in the food cabinet eating salt.

She said that she found him getting in to the pantry, but she was not sure what he got, only that he had been trying to get something on the higher shelf, and it could have been the salt or pepper. When she indicated the shelf she was referring to, it was full of all kinds of canned foods and food boxes, including a box of salt.
 
It sounds as if they relied on non-experts for advice how to deal with the little boy's problems. To Hannah, I suppose the person in the foster care system who told her to put something he didn't like on the food to stop him eating, was an expert....NOT....

He was a meth baby. They should have had a clue that he was going to have some very odd behavioral problems because of this, and should have sought expert advice. But I think they are naive, or were naive.

I don't think she meant to kill him. In this case, the wood bed, the burned sheets,the camera in his room, etc--there are good reasons for all of these and probably the wood platform bed was just temporarily like that because of his recent defecation incident.

I believe that he must have gotten into the salt in the pantry when she was knocked out with Tylenol after her accident, just like the medical expert said on 20/20.

Just my opinions, I could be wrong.
 
www.associatedcontent.com

What was originally described by Hannah Overton as a choking incident that led to his death, was later determined to be something very different. The official cause of death is sodium poisoning, and ruled a homicide.
Police believe the sodium poisoning occurred when the mother forced the child to drink water laced with chili powder, salt, pepper and other spices as a form of punishment, and that it was not the first time.

The couple's other children each separately told authorities that this was a common form of punishment, but that Andrew got it worse than all of them because he was "always in trouble." They also told police that their mother often confined Andrew to his bed for long periods of time, that he had to pee and poop in the bed, and that she would watch him through a security camera to make sure he didn't get up. The children also said that Andrew was not ever allowed to go with the family on trips.

I read that she waited for three(3) hours to take him to the hospital. One of the "clear" signs of salt overdose is breathing difficulty. If your child was extremely cold and showing signs of breathing would you not call 911.

Not call your hubby and then take the child to a clinic, by then it was too late.

I for one do not defend child abusers.......
 
I can't stand abuse of any defenseless creatures: children or animals. In fact, I thought she was guilty until I saw the 20/20 story on t.v. Who knows? The facts can get skewed either way.
Personally, I guess that I was relieved by the 20/20 story presenting a better image of the parents--there's so much horrible child abuse going on these days--I wanted to believe that this time, it was just an unfortunate series of events.
Now, I just don't know.
 
P.S. Cyberlaw, the points you bring out are so right. As I said, I think I just wanted to believe that this one time, it was an accident.
 
I watched the recent 20/20 interview, and began reading what I could about this case. Many of the links offered above are no longer active, and the "FreeHannah" website is clearly biased. HOWEVER...

In general, I felt that this family was honest and that their assertions were supported by Sunday School teachers, and (apparently) their pastor, who (it seems) had originally intended to adopt this boy himeslf until he realized the extent of the child's behavioral issues.

There was a similar case in the UK. The couple was named Gay, and they adopted three siblings, the oldest of whom was the same age as Andrew, and exhibited many of the same symptoms, prior to HIS death of salt poisoning. IIRC, both kids were born to meth addicted mothers, and had FAS and the British child was also suffering from an inability to properly process sodium. Both children, upon arrival at the hospital, were hooked to a saline (SALT!) IV. I am not saying that was enough salt to kill them, or that it was the source of all of the sodium in their systems, but it certainly couldn't have helped the situation.

As I understood it, the food was not "contaminated" to stop him from eating it, but rather, the spice was used to season the food he ate that day. When the meal was over, he was still asking for more food. If he had been deprived of sustenance earlier in life, this is common behavior. Parents may discover the child "sneaking" food, or hiding it to eat later. When the meal was over, he asked for more food. By all accounts, he would ask for more food, and if he got more, would ask for still more, until he vomited it back up because his stomach was too full. So in order to satiate his "hunger" she mixed a small amount of the Zatarains seasoning into some warm water to make a "broth" with a taste similar to what he was asking for, and gave it to him to drink, reasoning that he would accept it as a substitute for more solid food.

NOWHERE did I hear them mention using it as a punishment, to teach him a lesson, or that hew was "forced" to drink two full cups of this mixture.

Similarly, the bed situation was (convincingly) presented as a temporary situation. He'd defecated in his bed the night before, then painted the walls with it, and consumed some of it. The mattress had been cleaned up and left outside to dry, while the sheets were discarded, since they had another set. The boy kept trying to take the soiled sheets from the trash to pick off the fecal material and eat it. Finally the father burned the sheets to prevent the problem. I note that they DID clean the walls and carpet they said he had painted with feces, so, to my thinking, they were not careless, sloppy, neglectful parents.

He was not "confined" to his bed per se, even at night, any more than any other child would be. If you found your 4-year-old in front of the TV set at 2am with a snack, I believe you would return the child to bed, and let him or her know that this was not appropriate behavior. That once put to bed, he/she is expected to REMAIN in bed.

The older son indicated that he was watched until they were sure he was asleep so he would not get into trouble during the night. There were no "bars" or "cage" to keep him in bed, nor did I see any indication that restraints were used, either by their presence in the bed or any ligature marks on the child's body. When he could not be closely monitored, a "security camera" (some people call these baby monitors) was directed at his bed to enable the parents to check on him in the night without getting up.

I don't think that Hannah taking Tylenol 3 while caring for 5 children and pregnant with another was a great idea, and when it caused her to doze off, Andrew got into SOMETHING, apparently while scavenging for food. Salt is certainly a possibility.

As a (non-pica, never starved) child, I remember my sister and I pouring salt from the shaker into our hands and licking it off our palms. I doubt my mom knew, and we certainly did not consume enought to cause a health crisis, but how many of us (my hand is up) eat the salt at the bottom of the pretzel bag? Salt is appealing, or it would not be such a large component of many snack foods.

Finally, she was found guilty of failure to get help for him, NOT of poisoning him. If my child (who often overate to the point of vomiting) vomited after a meal, and my attempts to comfort him with a "broth" (let's face it, boullion would have been no better... look at the salt content) had failed, I might not have thought much of it.

When he said he was chilly, she began to consider the possibility he was getting the flu, or a cold. She wrapped him in blankets, and then, when that did not warm him, placed him in a warm tub. I don't know if she took his temperature at any time in an attempt to confirm her theory, probably because she did not want to leave him alone in the tub to get a thermometer. Wise choice.

It was only a bit later that she began to think he was really sick. Rather than call and wait for an ambulance to come, pick him up, and take him to the nearby Urgent Care facility, they determined that the quickest way to get him there was to drive him themselves, which they did. It was about an hour and a half from the first time he vomited until they bundled him up for the trip to Urgent Care. I have had a sick child before, who vomited, who I placed in a warm tub, and then wrapped up and put to bed. She did not die, in spite of exhibiting symptoms like Andrew's because she really was just "normal sick" and not "dying sick." Of course, I did not know that, but to me, a child who vomits and has chills, and possibly chest congestion is NOT sick enough for more than a call to his or her physician, administration of liquids, and perhaps an anti-emetic to settle their stomach or a teaspoon of OTC cough medicine for the cough and chest congestion. I would CERTAINLY not immediately think it was serious enough to call an ambulance over!

There is little doubt this child was abused, but the abuse was at the hands (and in the womb) of his biological mother, who used drugs and drank alcohol throughout her pregnancy.
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To find Overton guilty, jurors had to believe either of two scenarios -- that Overton force-fed Andrew salt knowing it would kill him or that she neglected to get medical help fast enough knowing that it would kill him.

At Overton's appeals hearing this past February, the judge heard testimony from two witnesses who appeared on "20/20's" original report saying they believed Andrew's death was accidental, not murder. Neither the prosecution nor the defense called either of the doctors to the stand during Hannah's trial in 2007.

Dr. Edgar Cortes, a pediatrician, had seen Andrew as a patient back in 2005, before he went to live with the Overton family. He told "20/20" that he informed the prosecutor, Eastwood, that he saw speech and developmental problems and was surprised to learn that prosecutors described him at trial as being "normal." During February's hearing, he reiterated that position in response to questions from Hannah's attorney, Cynthia Hujar-Orr.

"Do these developmental delays make him younger, make him in danger of accidentally harming himself by eating bad things?" Hujar-Orr asked.

"Yes," Cortes said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-mom-...ng-death-accuses-prosecutor/story?id=17183938
 

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