GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[CHEL]

Are we done for the day?

 

[Walela]

Great Aunt " Dottie" is now up on the stand. No last name given.... Blurred on screen.

This is an honest question(s): When a testifying witness is blurred on camera, do any courtroom artists have to also blur their drawing or not add eyes, mouth and nose to the face? Or, are they forbidden from drawing that person?

 

[shotgun09]

Are we done for the day?

yep we are

 

[Leilei]

Are we done for the day?

Court TV is saying that it looks like they're done.
IMO.

 

[Leilei]

TH just walked out of the courtroom (no cuffs or anything?), so I guess we'll continue tomorrow.
IMO

 

[Walela]

So wrapping up Dotties testimony. TH when he was little, jumped on the beds. And Dottie wanted to slap him upside the head, but.....no one did anything. And, TH continued to jump on the bed. MMmmmkay ???

goodness

I'm surprised he could actually jump and defy gravity with such high lead levels.
moo

 

[Walela]

As a child of an epilepsy sufferer/ abuser and a drink I've never felt the urge for anyone ever

Blessings to you.

 

[Leilei]

I'm surprised he could actually jump and defy gravity with such high lead levels.
moo

I snorted

 

[BUF]

So wrapping up Dotties testimony. TH when he was little, jumped on the beds. And Dottie wanted to slap him upside the head, but.....no one did anything. And, TH continued to jump on the bed. MMmmmkay ???

goodness

Thanks for the laugh

Just asking….so how is any of this so far supposed to help TH?

 

[joe jones]

I think it was correct to blur out the family members, they did not commit the murder, and his mother did condemn him, she also said she still loves him, she will always be his mother irrespective of what he did, and she will probably examined every parenting choice she made with Tanner, and she has to live with the finger pointing and judgement for the rest of her life, I wish her well, she has been through an experience very few people have done,

 

[TMich6811]

I am sure she's had a lot of time to reflect on how her choices may have affected how the defendant developed, or didn't as the case may be. She may feel a great deal of guilt. I don't dispute that. But her wanting to be hidden while also testifying on behalf of him in hopes of gaining him mercy feels wrong. Her testimony IMO is her trying to assuage her guilt. "I wear my shame like a badge" Except when she's in court I guess.

While I am usually one who wants to understand the whys of what creates the monsters we discuss here, in this case, I simply don't care what created him. He is what he is. None of this mitigates and demonstrates he is deserving of the tiniest modicum of mercy in my mind and after having watched this trial, I hope he gets the DP.

I hope he does also.

 

[shotgun09]

Listening to WFAA's reporter live in the courtroom. She just described the jury, as mostly/ mainly middle aged, at least half are women. "There are two African Americans." One women is youngish in her 20's. One male is "Young, and possibly Indian", and one woman of Hispanic decent.

Interesting, as I have not heard any makeup or descriptions of the jury so far.

 

[Leilei]

Thanks for the laugh

Just asking….so how is any of this so far supposed to help TH?

If they're trying to humanize him, that ship sailed the minute that audio started playing.
But, they have to try. He has a right to try.
I don't see it succeeding, though.
IMO.

 

[RaspberryMama]

Just finished watching the aunt’s testimony. Her giggling during her reminiscing was just so inappropriate. Just fills me with rage. We aren’t here to think about TH as a cute little kid. There’s only one cute child that matters here and her name was Athena.

 

[TMich6811]

Imagine being a defense attorney who watch that and still being like - yeah I’ll talk about his childhood and trauma.

We have to let him have a defense but I just can’t imagine being that attorney. Is this an appointed attorney?

 

[TMich6811]

I am sure she's had a lot of time to reflect on how her choices may have affected how the defendant developed, or didn't as the case may be. She may feel a great deal of guilt. I don't dispute that. But her wanting to be hidden while also testifying on behalf of him in hopes of gaining him mercy feels wrong. Her testimony IMO is her trying to assuage her guilt. "I wear my shame like a badge" Except when she's in court I guess.

While I am usually one who wants to understand the whys of what creates the monsters we discuss here, in this case, I simply don't care what created him. He is what he is. None of this mitigates and demonstrates he is deserving of the tiniest modicum of mercy in my mind and after having watched this trial, I hope he gets the DP.

Yeah yall know me I’m a why person, not as an excuse but to fix others. I said those things not to give a reason but that I was sure it’s what she’d talk about.

I don’t know what I’d do in those shoes but I’m not sure I’d agree to testify. Especially since she clearly already knew

I’m going to watch later but that’s the part I’d want to know about. I knew he was like this and I tried to stop him, did we see any of that?

 

[mickey2942]

As a parent, I honestly don't think that I could plead for the life of my son if he did a heinous crime like TH.

 

[tlcya]

Yeah yall know me I’m a why person, not as an excuse but to fix others. I said those things not to give a reason but that I was sure it’s what she’d talk about.

I don’t know what I’d do in those shoes but I’m not sure I’d agree to testify. Especially since she clearly already knew

I’m going to watch later but that’s the part I’d want to know about. I knew he was like this and I tried to stop him, did we see any of that?

I didn't, but then I tuned out some of her testimony so could have missed it.

 

[tlcya]

As a parent, I honestly don't think that I could plead for the life of my son if he did a heinous crime like TH.

same. I could plead for his soul. I couldn't stop loving him. But I am not sure I could plead for his life.

Weirdly, if I were the victim of my child, I would want someone to advocate for him as hard as possible.

I don't know I am just danged emotional today. RL got me stressed to the max and it's affecting my ability to see things rationally right now.

 

[mickey2942]

same. I could plead for his soul. I couldn't stop loving him. But I am not sure I could plead for his life.

Weirdly, if I were the victim of my child, I would want someone to advocate for him as hard as possible.

I don't know I am just danged emotional today. RL got me stressed to the max and it's affecting my ability to see things rationally right now.

I think that this is one of the most difficult trials to follow. And the visceral pain expressed by Athena's parents was really difficult to see and feel. The fact that this murder evidence is absolute, with a recording of the crime, is indescribable.

I don't see this justification and love fest for TH is going to change the jurors decision. JMO.