TX - Austin Package Bombs #3

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I know I said yesterday that I feel bad for him, and I can't imagine how sad, dark, and depressed he must have been.

But dammit. If I have to read one more thing about his family talking about what a good guy he was...

NO! Your son/grandson/nephew KILLED PEOPLE. He may have been a good person 1, 2, 5 years ago but he KILLED PEOPLE. He's NOT a good person!

I get that it's hard for them to process. It HONESTLY may have come as a shock to them, but good grief, show some remorse for the people he KILLED and their families!

Ugh. Rant over.
 
  • #183
After seeing the helicopter photos, that is what made me feel they did the pit maneuver and jmho that what made the bomb go off because of the description of what caused the bombs to be set off. And with impact and where the driver side rear glass still intact I think the bomb was in rear. Will be interesting to find out on autopsy report. If it was, the nails would have came from behind to strike him in the head? Body? Did he die from the shot (s) fired from the officer?

This is what I am thinking.
I honestly don't feel (and it's JMO) that he set the bombs off to kill himself. I mean, I don't doubt that he likely wanted to kill himself, but I don't think it went the way he wanted it to, because I'm sure he wanted to take people down with him.

I feel like the impact set the bombs off, and depending on the exact timing, an officer could have possibly shot one of the bombs, causing it to go off as well... but I think that's less likely because according to the description, the shots were fired AFTER the bombs went off.

It said in another link I read, that jostling the bomb is what made the switches go off, and that's how they exploded when people picked them up, so I have no doubts that a pit maneuver would be enough commotion to make the bombs go off.
 
  • #184
Looking at Mark Conditt as someone who is pugnacious who likes conflict. His recording suggests he likes to complain a lot. I would not be surprised if he is pathological envious.

On Wound Collectors
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201509/wound-collectors

Murderous Envy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/keeping-kids-safe/200905/murderous-envy

The Dangerous Injustice Collector: Behaviors of Someone Who Never Forgets, Never Forgives, Never Lets Go, and Strikes Back!
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.1509

Psychology of Terrorism - National Criminal Justice Reference Service
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.PDF

Criminal And Behavioral Profiling
https://us.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/80474_Chapter_1.pdf

George Metesky was upset at how he was treated by ConEdison. He is considered an injustice collector.

Injustice Collectors
http://www.psybersquare.com/family/family_injustice.html

1.) Injustice Collectors are convinced that they are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It is simple: They are always right.

2.) Injustice Collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3.) Injustice Collectors truly believe that they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others chronically do not hold themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4.) Injustice Collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combined legislator, police, and judge and jury of

5.) Injustice Collectors never worry about what is wrong with themselves as their "bad list" grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6.) Injustice Collectors are never upset by the disparity of their rules for others with their own expectations of themselves.

7.) Injustice Collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

Here are more with 20 characteristics
http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/11/25/are-they-injustice-collector

Characteristics of Injustice Collectors

1. Injustice collectors are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It's simple: They are always right.

2. Injustice collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3. Injustice collectors truly believe they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others seem incapable of holding themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4. Injustice collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the family. They are a combination of legislator, police, judge and jury to those they consider their subjects. They forever banish from their kingdom any subject they deem disloyal, and only grant clemency if there is sufficient (in their eyes) contrition.

5. Injustice collectors never worry about what is wrong with them as their "bad" list grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6. Injustice collectors are never troubled by the disparity between their rules for others and their own expectations of themselves. Injustice collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

7. Injustice collectors have an external orientation; the problem always exists in the world, outside of themselves, and in their view, the world would be an acceptable place if their rules and standards were followed at all times.

8. Injustice collectors do not have a capacity for remorse, empathy or guilt.

9. Injustice collectors scoff at the idea of therapy, therapists, self-help books, and other tools used by people who struggle to live with them.

10. The phrase "walking on eggshells" describes life with an injustice collector.

11. The IC (injustice Collector) will prey upon your weaknesses to frame all issues in their terms.

12. IC's will always cry foul when you are 'mean' to them and accuse you of being nasty when you are confronting them with their negative behavior.

13. They are titanically insecure and cannot trust anyone. All relationships they have, even with their own parents and children and trustless and must be reinforced by subordination over and over.

14. They can only strengthen relationships through imprisoning their mates and banning behaviors and other relationships. Friends and family are a huge threat to the IC.

15. They must repetitively revisit situations where you service them, give in to them and agree with them. They will over time shrink your world to a small plot of empty activities that only they like. They are terrified of travel, meeting new people, understanding new concepts and paroling you from any punishment they have previously 'convicted' you of.

16. They do not care about you at all, they care about aggrandizing themselves with you as an assistant producer.

17. They will occasionally do something for you, but if you are not completely brainwashed, it will be a negative experience for you in the end. Example is throwing you a birthday party. I guarantee you will not have fun at your own party.

18. They will force you to choose between them and other things you like or love. The more you choose them, the more they will make you choose them over and over. They do not understand the concept of loyalty at all.

19. Hypocrisy is their modus operandi for debating and arguing with you. Everything they say about you is true about them. (aka Projection) It makes it so you try to 'win' fights by getting them to agree with you, which they never can because their whole position is false.

20. Your life will disappear into their lives. Your hopes and dreams will fade, even in your own mind. You will eat what they want, you will watch what they want on TV, you will vacation where they want, or not at all.

Identifying The Next Mass Murderer—Before It’s Too Late
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ntifying-the-next-mass-murderer-it-s-too-late

From the article.
Narcissistic Traits
Paranoid Ideation
Passionate Hatred
Wound Collectors
Communication
Violence as Magic
Isolation
The Lethal Cocktail
Acting Out

Examples Of Injustice Collector
Andrew Kehoe
George Metesky
Charles Whitman
Jim Jones
James Huberty
George Hennard
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols
Ted Kaczynski
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
Osama bin Laden
9/11 Terrorists
Seung-Hui Cho
Anders Breivik
Adam Lanza
Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Aaron Alexis
Elliot Rodger
Vester Flanagan
Chris Mercer
Omar Mateen
Stephen Paddock
Devin Kelley
Nikolas Cruz

They are mostly mass killers and terrorists. There are plenty of non-mass killers or killers who target a person they know who are injustice collectors.
Gertrude Baniszewski
John Wayne Gacy
David Berkowitz
Betty Broderick
Dora Cisneros
Lori Drew
Jodi Arias
Casey Anthony
Yoselyn Ortega
Michelle Carter
Howell Donaldson
David and Louise Turpin

Alleged school shooter was abusive to ex-girlfriend: classmate
https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/alleged-school-shooter-was-abusive-to-ex-girlfriend-classmate/

Nikolas Cruz is very aggressive in nature. He had issues of envy.

Elliot Rodger-My Twisted World
http://abclocal.go.com/three/kabc/kabc/My-Twisted-World.pdf

Elliot Rodger comes off as very pugnacious and easy to anger. He thrives in conflict.

Seung Hui Cho’s Manifesto
https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/cho_manifesto_1.1.pdf

Revisiting Adam Lanza: The Official Sandy Hook Report
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ing-adam-lanza-the-official-sandy-hook-report

Adam Lanza had deep seated envy issues. Lanza is just as envious as Rodger and Cho.

Websleuth Radio Interview Tina Meier
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/09/30/tricias-true-crime-radio-adult-cyber-bullying

Tina Meier's description of Lori Drew starts at the 20:40 mark, which is a constant complainer and unhappy. In ID Web Of Lies Friend Request and Tina Meier said Lori and Sarah Drew had trouble fitting in, which points to social alienation. That does describe Mark Conditt. That also describes George Metesky, Ted Kaczynski, Jodi Arias, Betty Broderick, Yoselyn Ortega, Elliot Rodger, Nikolas Cruz, Stephen Paddock, Devin Kelley, Omar Mateen, Seung-Hui Cho, Adam Lanza, Eric Harris, 9/11 Terrorists and Osama bin Laden.
 
  • #185
I have always read obits. For many reasons but get tickled at names. (old names/strange) It was a running joke at work. Not making fun of anyone/deceased. One time I guess when it started was a older lady named Daisey Flowers or something as such. Someone did a search on strange names. There truely are names that are real but odd and/or professions.

All that to say, if say your Kenny - could be used as Kan He.. Kelly could be KILLee Kill more. I wonder what the other names were on his list. Addresses are there a pattern to street names? ABC/123?

It’s good to know I m not the only one who reads random obituaries [emoji15]. I think Kelly was calling attention to a specific person.
 
  • #186
This is what I am thinking.
I honestly don't feel (and it's JMO) that he set the bombs off to kill himself. I mean, I don't doubt that he likely wanted to kill himself, but I don't think it went the way he wanted it to, because I'm sure he wanted to take people down with him.

I feel like the impact set the bombs off, and depending on the exact timing, an officer could have possibly shot one of the bombs, causing it to go off as well... but I think that's less likely because according to the description, the shots were fired AFTER the bombs went off.

It said in another link I read, that jostling the bomb is what made the switches go off, and that's how they exploded when people picked them up, so I have no doubts that a pit maneuver would be enough commotion to make the bombs go off.

interesting post ty
 
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I got lured in by an old catholic school friends parents. I should have known better. They were uber religious holier than though. Yet beat the crap out of my friend,and her brother. The bruises I saw covered her thigh, and one side of her body, I told my Mom she reported them.father knocked her down the stairs one time for getting up late for school. Both now have major drug issues, and guess what these Godly peopke now teach the grandkids. Gay people are on the bad team, public schools are bad.... They only listen to religion radio,and conservative talk shows as always, and still strictly live, breath, eat,and push said business.
Even though my friend is now a grown adult,she is forbidden to watch tv in their home. Only things that fit their hard core 'values' are allowed.
It's the weirdest freakiest evil crap.

When I hear stories about how others live like this it makes me so thankful. Do you think they feel thankful when they hear how ‘normal’ live?
 
  • #189
House MAC lived in sure looks different in today's reports

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Today March 22
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boy am i in trouble!

I don't understand why LE has to destroy stuff they have permission to be in there

why do they do that
 
  • #190
Hi my Rose

what a mess huh
 
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A bomb found at a FedEx facility in Southeast Austin on Tuesday morning was addressed to an employee at Austin Med Spa, according to spa workers and the employee’s mother.

Anita Ward, a nurse at Austin Med Spa, said FBI agents and Austin police told her Tuesday morning that her daughter, who also works at the spa in downtown Austin, was to be the recipient of the unexploded bomb at a FedEx sorting facility at 4117 McKinney Falls Parkway near Austin-Bergstrom International Airport.

Ward, who did not want to give her daughter’s name, said her daughter does not know Mark Conditt, who police say terrorized Austin with a series of bomb attacks that left two people dead and five injured.

The spa’s owner, Suzette Smith, said Conditt did not look familiar to anyone who works at the spa and was not a customer. https://www.statesman.com/news/loca...loyee-worker-mom-says/Ow90lvM3xRhFdJkbF2ScOI/

ETA: Ward’s daughter attends Austin Community College, but did not attend the school from 2010 to 2012, when Conditt was pursuing a business administration degree but did not graduate.

creepy

was he stalking her

obsessed


more rejection??
 
  • #193
From your link:

The serial Austin bomber had been part of a Christian survivalist group that would discuss weapons and dangerous chemicals - as authorities reveal he had a target list of future locations to continue his reign of terror.

Mark Anthony Conditt, 23, took part in the conservative club called Righteous Invasion of Truth (RIOT) as a teenager, which involved home-schooled youth studying the bible and being taught gun skills.

well that is a mix

the bible

and guns>>
 
  • #194
This is what I am thinking.
I honestly don't feel (and it's JMO) that he set the bombs off to kill himself. I mean, I don't doubt that he likely wanted to kill himself, but I don't think it went the way he wanted it to, because I'm sure he wanted to take people down with him.

I feel like the impact set the bombs off, and depending on the exact timing, an officer could have possibly shot one of the bombs, causing it to go off as well... but I think that's less likely because according to the description, the shots were fired AFTER the bombs went off.

It said in another link I read, that jostling the bomb is what made the switches go off, and that's how they exploded when people picked them up, so I have no doubts that a pit maneuver would be enough commotion to make the bombs go off.

It doesn't name sources but here's what LE sources said.

Investigators believe a short time later, Condit spotted the surveillance and pulled over. Officers gave verbal commands which Conditt did not obey. At 2:21 am, Conditt appeared to reach down, police fired one shot and Conditt detonated a device, killing him, according to law enforcement sources briefed on the matter.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/excl...elly-killmore-ship-packages/story?id=53915904
 
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A bomb found at a FedEx facility in Southeast Austin on Tuesday morning was addressed to an employee at Austin Med Spa, according to spa workers and the employee’s mother.

Anita Ward, a nurse at Austin Med Spa, said FBI agents and Austin police told her Tuesday morning that her daughter, who also works at the spa in downtown Austin, was to be the recipient of the unexploded bomb at a FedEx sorting facility at 4117 McKinney Falls Parkway near Austin-Bergstrom International Airport.

Ward, who did not want to give her daughter’s name, said her daughter does not know Mark Conditt, who police say terrorized Austin with a series of bomb attacks that left two people dead and five injured.

The spa’s owner, Suzette Smith, said Conditt did not look familiar to anyone who works at the spa and was not a customer. https://www.statesman.com/news/loca...loyee-worker-mom-says/Ow90lvM3xRhFdJkbF2ScOI/

ETA: Ward’s daughter attends Austin Community College, but did not attend the school from 2010 to 2012, when Conditt was pursuing a business administration degree but did not graduate.

Bomb at FedEx facility targeted Austin Med Spa employee, worker’s mom says
https://www.statesman.com/news/loca...loyee-worker-mom-says/Ow90lvM3xRhFdJkbF2ScOI/

I wonder why Mark Conditt addressed one of the bomb to Anita Ward. Another strange turn of events.

I wonder about the other bomb in FedEx who that was addressed to.
 
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That's the only news report that gave that description. All the others I've read since say he was pursued and stopped with the tactical maneuver. The officers jumped out and went to his car. Some describe them banging on the windows. The bomb then went off, knocking the officers back or to the ground. It was at that time that an officer fired his weapon.

They describe the bomb going off after the officers were walking/running towards his car. If the tactical maneuver had detonated the bombs, it would have done so immediately, not after the officers left their cars and approached his.

http://www.kolotv.com/content/news/477554973.html

http://www.witn.com/content/news/Austin-police-Bombing-suspect-left-taped-confession-477574873.html

Authorities say that Austin police approached the bombing suspect in his SUV early Wednesday, banging on his car window.

Austin Police Chief Brian Manley said at a news conference Wednesday evening that within seconds, the suspect had detonated a bomb in his car, blasting the officers backward.

Hanley said one officer then fired his weapon at the suspect. He said the county medical examiner has not finalized the cause of death, but that the bomb caused "significant" injuries.

Manley said "harrowing" video showed a "tremendous explosion" took place.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Christopher Combs said the video showed the officers' heroism. Combs declined to say where the video came from.

Authorities say that Austin police approached the bombing suspect in his SUV early Wednesday, banging on his car window.

Austin Police Chief Brian Manley said at a news conference Wednesday evening that within seconds, the suspect had detonated a bomb in his car, blasting the officers backward.

Hanley said one officer then fired his weapon at the suspect. He said the county medical examiner has not finalized the cause of death, but that the bomb caused "significant" injuries.

Manley said "harrowing" video showed a "tremendous explosion" took place.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Christopher Combs said the video showed the officers' heroism. Combs declined to say where the video came from.

http://www.witn.com/content/news/Austin-police-Bombing-suspect-left-taped-confession-477574873.html
 
  • #199
House MAC lived in sure looks different in today's reports

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Today March 22
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The house has certainly been damaged by LE - but even before it was damaged, it is quite a run down home. Why in the world were MAC and two roommates living in a place like that?
 
  • #200
The house has certainly been damaged by LE - but even before it was damaged, it is quite a run down home. Why in the world were MAC and two roommates living in a place like that?
I would be willing to bet that even with as run down as it is, being in that location, mortgage was probably upwards of $1200 a month or so.
 

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