GUILTY TX - Billy Joe Harris for rapes of elderly women in 6 counties, 2011

[waltzingmatilda]

I don't recall reading that Izzy, I should go back and reread to refresh my memory.

That is a very interesting tidbit about the youth ranch. This could be a real possibility that a former 'resident' could harbor resentment stemming from when he lived there as a youth. The 'tick tock' thing and stealing of the clocks could be symbolic of saying "Your time is up. or Your time is ticking away."

I worry that his crimes may escalate if he isn't caught soon. Sure thing that he is slippery but he may screw up if he feels HIS time is ticking away by LE closing in on him.

 

[Missizzy]

Starting with post #66 on page 3, I refer to the Youth Ranch and provide some links. I think we talk about it off and on through pages 3 and 4.

I would imagine, given the tiny bit of info that LE has allowed us to have, that they've looked at this angle. I've carefully checked out the Yoakum High School pages and find that the school is primarily white with a small number of students of color. The young men who we've found on MS from Yoakum who kind of fit the profile are few and far between but there are a couple.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Thanks for the help Missizzy, I will go back and read. You are a great sleuth!

 

[Salem]

This may have been discussed already, but maybe the perp was in jail during the March, April, May, June hiatus?

Salem

 

[A_News_Junkie]

This may have been discussed already, but maybe the perp was in jail during the March, April, May, June hiatus?

Salem

HEHE --- I love a kindred mind! I even noticed that he seems to avoided the Huntsville prison area. Possibly, by design?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

and your idea of possibly cross-dressing are very interesting to me, though. The man's been described as slender and has been noted as being totally naked in one attack. I haven't seen any description of his clothes, so it's certainly possible that he could sneak in under the radar in lady's clothes. I still wonder, though, why a neighbor wouldn't notice even another woman approaching a neighbor house at 4-5 am and unscrewing a lightbulb?

Because they think it is the homeowner(victim) .............if these ladies are all getting up early or are early risers for church or whatever - a "lady" just wouldn't hit my hinky meter like a man would. Heck, I could see them even thinking, I wonder if her sister is in town. Just thinking aloud.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Would his DNA be on file if he has been incarcerated?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

It is prolly just my imagination, but I am beginning to envision this perp as a creepy Norman Bates type character who has a 'mother complex'.

Could this thin, dark skinned young man be a multi racial child who was born out of wedlock and given up for adoption? Could he be acting out against the Catholic church as well as elderly women?

wm

I think he is acting out anger or rage on old women, as possibly an older lady was responsible for what he feels was his downfall. (Like a nun who turned him in for a crime and he did time for it.)

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Now that is a different angle, A News Junkie! You really may be on to something about the perp wearing a disguise. This may explain why he has entered at least one home that we know of well, nekkid. IMO a woman's dress or housecoat would be easily slipped on quickly in a getaway. It would also not raise suspicion in a retirement communitity.

Good thinking too on the time line and oil rig worker idea. I don't know anything about oil rigs but it would make sense that there's more work in March = JUne due to weather conditions improving. It very well could be why he was dormant during this period.

Just trying to think of things that would take him out of commission for a 4 months...........so jail, out of town position like off shore oil job make since to me. I am sure there are others.

Now for the cross dressing angle - want a link that is kinda creepy but was kinda one of the reasons we went down this road in our discussion (my friend and I) ............ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Don't_Cry_(film)

Also, wasn't it the BK Killer who avoided detection by parking in a nearby woods.............could explain why no vehicle description has been given.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

WaltzingMatilda--I don't know if you've read the whole thread, but Yoakum is home to the Bluebonnet Youth Ranch. Many troubled or at-risk children have grown up at the Ranch. The kids grow up in a cottage style milieu with houseparents. They attend regular schools in Yoakum and are given assistance with college if they age out of the program.

I've thought from the beginning that this young dark-skinned man is comfortable in "white" neighborhoods (we're talking Central Texas here) and with elder white women. He's described as not speaking with an "accent". This tells me that most definitely this young man is in his element. I think it's not only a possibility but a probability.

I'm very intrigued by the cross-dressing but still wonder about the neighbors. This guy is very very slippery.

Racially, I find the photos of the kids interesting. Personally - I find it offensive that they have children on their page with their faces showing. Therefore, I will only link the homepage and you guys can look at the photo gallery - but I might write or call them about showing faces of at risk youth like that. gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
http://www.bbyr.org/index.php

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Would his DNA be on file if he has been incarcerated?

I think so (not 100% positive) but........... sometimes it takes years for a dna profile for a rape to be matched up. Older article, but you get the idea.....http://www.rainn.org/public-policy/legislative-agenda/fighting-sexual-violence-with-DNA
I think some progress has been made on this, but it is still backlogged if the news story I heard a few weeks ago was up to date. :-((

 

[Missizzy]

I think this guy is choosing towns that have a similar "feel". I lived for a long time in Central Texas and each of these towns are similar in many ways. One of the unique factors, to my mind, is that most, if not all, of the towns he's chosen, have a strong German heritage.

Central Texas is a unique place. There are towns that have a strong Latino population, towns that have a black heritage, and towns with German heritage. There's towns which are kind of a melting pot. Yoakum and Luling certainly have a lot of German sir names. This is very stereo-typical so please forgive me if this offends, but that denotes certain things in Texas. The German towns are ultra "clean and tidy" with houses kept up nicely. There's a lot of order and "the way things are done". I found each town to have a real personality.

I don't know if this young man grew up in a town "like" this or actually there. If what has been posted about Organized Rapists proves true, we know that he most probably started out where he feels most comfortable. I'd have to look back but there's a statistic which says that rapists typically strike very close to home first. LE knows this and is probably giving a very close look at every single young man of color in the Yoakum area. There can't be a single thing we've thought of that they haven't. I just wish they'd give out a little more information so the public would feel safer.

It's almost comical as I'd be up in arms if I lived in Texas right now as I'm sure my sons would be rousted. I have five sons who are black and who are all in their twenties. I have one who is in college and slender and 5'7" and grew up with a white Momma. He's also very light-skinned and speaks with no "street talk" (or I'd whack him upside the back of his head--just kidding, he likes it when I say that as I've never whacked anybody). He'd have heart failure, though, if he saw a deer head as he was raised a vegetarian and thus thinks that deer keep their heads.

So, if I took my sweet boy to Central Texas to visit my Mom, I wouldn't be too happy that LE were "profiling" him but that's what's called for right now. I hope the parents, coaches and teachers of these small towns are educating their young men to keep their cool and let LE do their job. I'm actually quite surprised that no one innocent has been shot yet...at least that we know of.

 

[Salem]

Bringing MsIzzy's post over:

I think this guy is choosing towns that have a similar "feel". I lived for a long time in Central Texas and each of these towns are similar in many ways. One of the unique factors, to my mind, is that most, if not all, of the towns he's chosen, have a strong German heritage.

Central Texas is a unique place. There are towns that have a strong Latino population, towns that have a black heritage, and towns with German heritage. There's towns which are kind of a melting pot. Yoakum and Luling certainly have a lot of German sir names. This is very stereo-typical so please forgive me if this offends, but that denotes certain things in Texas. The German towns are ultra "clean and tidy" with houses kept up nicely. There's a lot of order and "the way things are done". I found each town to have a real personality.

I don't know if this young man grew up in a town "like" this or actually there. If what has been posted about Organized Rapists proves true, we know that he most probably started out where he feels most comfortable. I'd have to look back but there's a statistic which says that rapists typically strike very close to home first. LE knows this and is probably giving a very close look at every single young man of color in the Yoakum area. There can't be a single thing we've thought of that they haven't. I just wish they'd give out a little more information so the public would feel safer.

It's almost comical as I'd be up in arms if I lived in Texas right now as I'm sure my sons would be rousted. I have five sons who are black and who are all in their twenties. I have one who is in college and slender and 5'7" and grew up with a white Momma. He's also very light-skinned and speaks with no "street talk" (or I'd whack him upside the back of his head--just kidding, he likes it when I say that as I've never whacked anybody). He'd have heart failure, though, if he saw a deer head as he was raised a vegetarian and thus thinks that deer keep their heads.

So, if I took my sweet boy to Central Texas to visit my Mom, I wouldn't be too happy that LE were "profiling" him but that's what's called for right now. I hope the parents, coaches and teachers of these small towns are educating their young men to keep their cool and let LE do their job. I'm actually quite surprised that no one innocent has been shot yet...at least that we know of.

Salem

 

[Missizzy]

NJ--I linked to the Ranch several pages back and I've perused it with a fine tooth comb. I just checked it again after you brought up the photos. I actually feel like they've done a very good job of picturing their kids. There's no shame in being in foster care or in growing up at a youth ranch. All they need is permission from the children's parents or guardians to use a photo.

If you'll check again, you'll see that the home page uses clip art/stock photos and the gallery uses actual photos of children looking away from the camera. This is quite typical of children's programs. I've worked in the field of adoption and foster care for decades and I'm impressed with the Youth Ranch. They actually have a very good reputation for success and for integrating the children into the community. Their program is a model for many others. I've done some private checking with advocates in Texas and the Ranch passes muster for me. JMO

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
Would his DNA be on file if he has been incarcerated?
I said:
I think so (not 100% positive) but........... sometimes it takes years for a dna profile for a rape to be matched up. Older article, but you get the idea.....http://www.rainn.org/public-policy/l...lence-with-DNA
I think some progress has been made on this, but it is still backlogged if the news story I heard a few weeks ago was up to date. :-((

Now I am adding this: It appears it depends on your crime???? Why not just do it for everyone convicted???? Geezzzzzzzzz, government always has to complicate it with rules, etc. You lose your friggin' rights when you violate the rules of society - end of story, IMHO.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/criminal_law_enforcement/crime_laboratory/codisstatewide/dnasample.htm

 

[txsvicki]

The rapist may have been laying low or spooked those months he was not attacking. The man who was cleared of the serial rapes was in jail for over two months and let out in May. He may have just quit for awhile or cased out the future victims' locations.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Okay, another thing my friend and I have been playing with is the idea the perp might be a pilot. Just looking around to see what was near by - like Huntsville Prison and he sure seems to stay away from that area by coincidence or design.........so, looking at google maps seems that perp might be dropping in - literally.......
So, while I was shoveling snow, my friend made this map I want to share with you all to see what you think. This is just looking at the Northern group of attacks, including the break in in August where perp came back for second time and raped the lady.

All of these northern attacks are along back-road routes between small rural airports. Dates: August burglary, July 20, Aug 13, several in first two weeks of Sept, Oct 9/10[?], Oct 23 (Sure wish the media was more accurate and we had more detailed addresses, etc)

P.S. As for the attacks farther south (Jan 21, Feb 27, Nov 9, Nov 24) They occurred in Yoakum and Luling, little towns that each have their own airports as well. (Not on map)

 

[Missizzy]

The airport idea is a good one but I think you could do that with convenience stores and their delivery trucks as well. In Central Texas, the airstrips are quite small. I would imagine that any managers or hangar workers would remember a man fitting this description. Maybe not. It is intriguing.

And remember, he'd have to back his SUV or pick-up (which he'd have to rent?) up to the plane to load his trophies inside.

 

[DeepThinker]

I wonder if the months he was not "active" were after the one where the woman had the gun. Perhaps she actually injured him and he was recovering, or she scared him and he had to work up his nerve again. This theory only works in this particular scenario, however. JMO

 

[A_News_Junkie]

The airport idea is a good one but I think you could do that with convenience stores and their delivery trucks as well. In Central Texas, the airstrips are quite small. I would imagine that any managers or hangar workers would remember a man fitting this description. Maybe not. It is intriguing.

And remember, he'd have to back his SUV or pick-up (which he'd have to rent?) up to the plane to load his trophies inside.

I have not seen any description of a pick-up or SUV?????????? But, if one is a pilot of private planes like this - he would have money, so he might have a car at the airports he frequents or maybe a motorcycle with sissy bar or luggage rack that he can bungee cord a deer head or clock to. I don't know, but one thing I know is it seems this is one case where thinking outside the box might seem crazy, but it might be exactly what is needed. So I will speculate and toss out some seemingly crazy ideas to some, but in the hope it spawns an idea as I am sure the Rangers and all the LE on this case have exhausted the more typical MO's.