GUILTY TX - Billy Joe Harris for rapes of elderly women in 6 counties, 2011

[txsvicki]

txsvicki--I don't think so. This guy works alone. That's my gut feeling. I think almost all Organized Rapists do. If this were a gang, they'd want money, jewelry, and electronics. They'd be in an out and violent and sloppy. They wouldn't take clocks and deer heads. They wouldn't spend their time sitting watch or frightening the victims. We can sure keep it on the table but I'm thinking a lone wolf. JMO

Hope you feel better WM!! You know I noticed the ad for that school too. WSers think alike. I think it's just a coincidence but still took me aback.

Yes, that's true. He may also have had a gun with him or demanded any pain or nerve medications that elderly women might take if he were a gang member type. I've probably read and heard about so many slightly different crimes and just mistakenly trying to link it all together. We had a home invasion here the other day and one of the things they took from the young man was a puppy.

 

[Missizzy]

That's throwing down the gauntlet for me. You don't steal somebody's puppy. That's low!!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Stay with me here for a second --- I am going outta the box again!

Reading on: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/...elderly-women/comment-page-2/?action=late-new comments section again....... " I pray that this man is caught and faces extreme consequences. I live in Mississippi and for 2 yrs we faced a ver, very similar rapist. We do have a sketch of him and DNA, but he is still on the loose."
So............. I went looking to see if I could sleuth out info on these cases....
found a blog with sketches and I think the case this poster was referring to.
http://rapetracker.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html (there is a sketch that could fit our perp) Also, from that page:
"WDAM Hattiesburg, MS

Jones County authorities may have a serial rapist on their hands.
An 81-year-old woman was attacked Thursday night around 11 o'clock at her home inside the Sandersville city limits. The woman is at South Central Regional Medical Center but her condition is unknown at this time.
Sheriff Larry Dykes says the attack is similar to two others this summer. An elderly woman on Highway 184 was attacked by a suspect who broke into her home in late May. And two weeks later an elderly woman on Sharon Road was attacked in her home.
Dykes says in all three instances, the women lived alone and their homes were somewhat secluded.
Authorities believe the attacker is a Hispanic male, approximately 5'6 to 5'9, with a stocky build." <------------- About the only thing that doesn't fit is the stocky build, but could certainly have changed.

Anyone want to jump in and see what else we can find that might match up??? So my limb is.......maybe he is on the move and has relocated to Texas???????
:truce: be nice, it is just an idea!!!

"Stocky" may have been a mistake. Other articles say "slender" -- and he does look slender in the sketch.

They are looking for a slender, middle-age Hispanic male about 5-feet 8-inches tall. Attacks late at night,entered through a window ... other attacks were late April and early May, the same year (2007).
Small towns, rural highways, elderly widows, secluded homes......... humm

http://www.leadercall.com/local/local_story_253112638.html

After the second rape in May, law enforcement brought in a sketch artist from the Biloxi Police Department. They are looking for a slender, middle-age Hispanic male about 5-feet 8-inches tall.


&#8220;Why the assailant went to these particular houses is what we&#8217;re trying to find out,&#8221; Dykes said. &#8220;We want to know why he goes where he does and why were these women his victims.&#8221;

 

[Texas Mist]

Is there some new 'philia' or fetish I don't know about?? What's up w/ dudes wanting clocks?

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...ter-argument-over/LOcHfLJ61k6atGuy66FglQ.cspx

 

[A_News_Junkie]

There sure seem to be several of the serial rapists of the elderly. This guy sounds like our guy, except they say medium build and he didn't take anything. http://www.ktvu.com/news/22540303/detail.html
FWIW -- probably nothing, but lets all watch our seniors - we too are knocking on that door - some of us knocking louder than others.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Is there some new 'philia' or fetish I don't know about?? What's up w/ dudes wanting clocks?

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...ter-argument-over/LOcHfLJ61k6atGuy66FglQ.cspx

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700010591/Man-stabbed-in-alleged-robbery.html

42 years old - but if anyone finds a pic or his booking photo - link it - some people never age and the name doesn't fit what *I* would expect it to be given our description, but that too could be me *expecting* a Latino name.

 

[Texas Mist]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700010591/Man-stabbed-in-alleged-robbery.html

42 years old - but if anyone finds a pic or his booking photo - link it - some people never age and the name doesn't fit what *I* would expect it to be given our description, but that too could be me *expecting* a Latino name.

If you go here http://iml.slsheriff.org/IML
and put in Harold's name, there's a mugshot.

Shows him to be 5'10" & 180lbs & he's fond of aliases.

He was charged w/ robbery & possession of drug paraphernalia.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

If you go here http://iml.slsheriff.org/IML
and put in Harold's name, there's a mugshot.

Shows him to be 5'10" & 180lbs & he's fond of aliases.

He was charged w/ robbery & possession of drug paraphernalia.

Thanks - he does look kinda younger than 42 to me. More like 35ish. And look at all those names.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

You guys are the sharpest tacks in the box, if I do say so myself. And reading your posts makes me wonder if he is somehow picking his victim, cutting the phone lines and then doing his surveillance just to see who shows up and how coordinated the efforts are to determine what happened? In other words, he would get alot of information about how supported this woman is by the response to an upsetting and confusing event, i.e. - cutting the phone lines.... If the only person who shows up is the phone company, the perp would certainly know that this lady is truly on her own. Also, if it takes a while for her to determine the line was cut, that would also tell him this lady might not be on top of her game and an easier target. Just my jumbled thoughts for the day.

Actually, you seem pretty sharp too! I like your theory. It makes a lot of sense!

 

[Missizzy]

This is interesting. I was researching TM's question about a "thing for clocks. I came up with this:

Chronophilia- Abnormal affection towards time.
Chronomentrophilia- Abnormal affection towards clocks.


and then with a little more checking, I found this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

"Chronophilia is a neologism intended to refer to a group of patterns of erotic reactions or sexual arousal associated with the age of preferred subjects or age discrepancy between the sexual partners. The term was coined by John Money (1986), from the Greek roots &#935;&#961;&#972;&#957;&#959;&#962; (Chronos), "time" and &#966;&#953;&#955;&#943;&#945; (-philia), "love". The term has not been widely adopted by sexologists, who instead use terms that that refer to the specific age range in question."


If this guy's this deep, we've got real problems, folks.

 

[Texas Mist]

This is interesting. I was researching TM's question about a "thing for clocks. I came up with this:

Chronophilia- Abnormal affection towards time.
Chronomentrophilia- Abnormal affection towards clocks.


and then with a little more checking, I found this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

"Chronophilia is a neologism intended to refer to a group of patterns of erotic reactions or sexual arousal associated with the age of preferred subjects or age discrepancy between the sexual partners. The term was coined by John Money (1986), from the Greek roots &#935;&#961;&#972;&#957;&#959;&#962; (Chronos), "time" and &#966;&#953;&#955;&#943;&#945; (-philia), "love". The term has not been widely adopted by sexologists, who instead use terms that that refer to the specific age range in question."


If this guy's this deep, we've got real problems, folks.

that is really freaky if he's conscious of the 'chrono'-philias, MissIzzy

I have been trying to find any discussions by people who are drawn to clocks for erotic reasons...So far have only found people who are obsessed w/ all things clock-related & have big collections....but not found those who are admitting to getting all ummmm - warm & fuzzy over them.

I'm gonna keep looking tho....I really want to understand this clock thing.

 

[justthinkin]

Deer heads, clocks....maybe the guy's decorating his apartment? :waitasec:

This whole clock thing is just baffling. While googling, tick tock, yes, that's right, tick tock, I found some lyrics of songs with tick tock either as the title or in the body of the song. Most were innocent enough, but then I stumbled across this:

1 2. You hear the clock ticking?
Tick-tock, You about to stop living.
Tick-tock, I want you to remember me.
Tick-tock, but the day don't have no memory.

I'm coming!
Nobody could stop me, nobody could hold me, ain't nobody control me.
I'm coming!
---
These are a few of the lyrics to a song titled, "I"m Coming." They were recorded by someone who goes by the name of Sikk the Shocker, and also happen to be the theme song of a wrestler who goes by M. P. V., his initials. I had to wonder if the rapist might play this song to get up his nerve just before he attempts a rape. Could he possibly be a fan of either the wrestler, M. P. V. or Sikk? the Shocker, a rapper?

Maybe it's just too off the wall, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I can just picture some little weasel revving himself up by listening to this song. I can also see him stealing deer heads, then claiming to anyone who will listen that he shot them. Stolen to boost his wimpy ego.

I like something WaltzingMatilda mentioned about cross dressing. The Mississippi suspect's sketch sure looks like he could pass for a female. Wonder if that's how he's spying on the women, passing himself off as a female? No one would ever connect the two seemingly different people if that were the case.

 

[Missizzy]

I could be all wet here but somehow, I don't see this guy as a "little weasel". I have this huge concern that when they arrest him, and I believe they will, we're all gonna say, "Really?"

I've mentioned before that I have this litmus test I do on perps' mugshots. I make myself study the photo and then consider how I would react if this person turned around to look at me while I stood in line at the grocery store. Obviously some photos are going to make a person levitate or make your skin crawl. Some make you want to take a cold cleansing shower. Some, though, look remarkably normal and decent. It's only when we are looking at the photo knowing that the guy just dismembered their grandma that we say we get creeped out by the photo. Think about it next time you look at a mug shot and see if it helps. The frightening ones are the decent looking guys and gals. They are the ones we would stop to help or go to the door to talk to...or allow in to fix the phone line.

I think this rapist is one of those guys. I think his decent looks, good hygiene, and calm demeanor doesn't immediately terrify these women. It's what he does after he's in their home that is horrific. Just think, as we debate him, he's standing in line at the grocery store, with people totally unaware. But he's watching some elder lady as she buys her laundry soap.

 

[TGIRecovered]

This is interesting. I was researching TM's question about a "thing for clocks. I came up with this:

Chronophilia- Abnormal affection towards time.
Chronomentrophilia- Abnormal affection towards clocks.


and then with a little more checking, I found this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

"Chronophilia is a neologism intended to refer to a group of patterns of erotic reactions or sexual arousal associated with the age of preferred subjects or age discrepancy between the sexual partners. The term was coined by John Money (1986), from the Greek roots &#935;&#961;&#972;&#957;&#959;&#962; (Chronos), "time" and &#966;&#953;&#955;&#943;&#945; (-philia), "love". The term has not been widely adopted by sexologists, who instead use terms that that refer to the specific age range in question."


If this guy's this deep, we've got real problems, folks.

Miss Izzy, this is a very interesting find. I wonder if LE is digging this deep into possible motivations for these crimes? I'm thinking they may not be; maybe this is one tidbit that is worth sharing with them.

We have a resident in our city who's home is on a well-traveled, but nice street, who has a sign in his yard advertising his clock-repair skills. It's been there for years. I wonder if our perp could be a clock repair or taxidermy hobbist? Maybe the kind of guy one might see at flea markets or antique sales in small towns?

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I'm back and feeling much better. (Thanks Izzy)

I love sleuthing with everyone on this thread because there is so much brainstorming going on. So bear with me while I think and type out my idea.

What if this guy was raised by foster parents or children's home/ranch and his 'mother figure' treated him severely and put him in time out? While sitting in time out, he watched a clock in the room, counting down the minutes, perhaps hours, til his punishment was finished. Also in the room and in the youngsters point of vision is a deer head that he sat focused on while the time passed. He may now radiate a persona of 'the good son'.

Are the thefts of the clocks and deer heads some sort of symbolism? IMO, yes but we just haven't figured out what it is yet.

There is another story on this forum about a shoe theif who had been stealing shoes, men's photos and other items for 20 years. He was finally caught and we learned he was a professional ice skater! Kind of makes sense if you think like a perp who is perhaps 'haunted' by something traumatic that happened in their lives. (No reason has been given for his actions as yet)

One thing we know for sure. This rapist is acting out by exerting power and anger towards elderly women for some reason.

I hope this doesn't sound too weird. Just trying to get into what makes this guy tick.

wm

 

[Missizzy]

WM--I've been promoting the foster child/adopted child scenario from early on. I just think it's a huge coincidence that several rapes have been reported in Yoakum, where the Bluebonnet Youth Ranch is located. The BYR certainly has children all all races who are raised by primarily white house parents in a cottage milieu. The house parents have relief parents who come in once a month for respite.

I've also looked carefully at the photos I can find of the high school kids in Yoakum. It's a primarly white school with a small number of students of color and a few internationally adopted kids. I've wondered about the students of color. Are they with their families of origin or are they residents at the BYR?

I've wondered if the rapist might have aged out at the Ranch in the last 5-8 years. Obviously, many of these children have serious issues. It's a rare occurrence for an extremely healthy child to be placed at a youth ranch. The legend of the child who was orphaned because his loving parents were both killed in a car crash is just that...a legend. No, these kids struggle with prenatal exposure to substances, learning differences, disabilities, emotional disturbance, etc. By very merit of being placed at the ranch, a child must require a highly restrictive environment to qualify for the state funds.

The photos, of course, show sweet-faced, happy children. We want that, of course. But trust me when I say that most are deeply troubled and lots of energy goes into helping them heal and find their place in society. I was intrigued to read that the BYR assists kids with college. So this means that a young man could get tuition assistance or a scholarship if he were bright enough to go to college. Could one of these young men have lingering issues with a former house parent or even with abandonment issues from his family of origin?

It is not rare at all for children who have been placed in one or more permanent adoption placements to disrupt and need a stay at a youth ranch or children's home. Sometimes they go back home and sometimes they don't. This young man could have been horribly mistreated in his family of origin, his adoptive or foster placements or at the Ranch. There's a lot of possible scenarios. Let me do some checking today on an address I found. I'll check back.

 

[Missizzy]

For whatever reason, I'm hitting dead ends and need some help. In the very first article we linked to at the beginning of this thread, there is a comment by a neighbor of one of the rape vicitms. He is named in the article. I'll link to the article but not name him here as he is not "involved". I'm trying to find out what street this is in reference to. I am in no way trying to locate the victim. I'm merely trying to get a sense of where this street is in comparison with where the Bluebonnet Youth Ranch is.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583256,00.html

"Nobody opens the door for nobody anymore," said AG, 57, who lives across the street from one of the Yoakum victims. "After midnight, people have no rights to be walking the streets anymore."

Can anyone find out what street this is?

I think I've posted before that I also see some people listed at this address as being members of St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Yoakum.

I've also found an obituary somewhat linked to the family of the neighbor for a man who passed on January 1, 2010. The man's last name is the same as the neighbor and his initials are RG. He was 53 at his death and lived in Stafford but was formerly of Yoakum. Several people in the list of survivors also show up as connected with the home address of the "neighbor" in Yoakum. It is listed here:

http://txobits.blogspot.com/2010/01/texas-obituaries-01042010.html

In reading this man's obit, I wondered about the sentence, "He was a carrier and a Catholic." What does the word carrier mean in this context? Is it in reference to his employment, a medical condition, or his religion?

 

[Missizzy]

Truck driver? That's one definition of carrier. But why no name of a company?

 

[DeepThinker]

For whatever reason, I'm hitting dead ends and need some help. In the very first article we linked to at the beginning of this thread, there is a comment by a neighbor of one of the rape vicitms. He is named in the article. I'll link to the article but not name him here as he is not "involved". I'm trying to find out what street this is in reference to. I am in no way trying to locate the victim. I'm merely trying to get a sense of where this street is in comparison with where the Bluebonnet Youth Ranch is.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583256,00.html

"Nobody opens the door for nobody anymore," said AG, 57, who lives across the street from one of the Yoakum victims. "After midnight, people have no rights to be walking the streets anymore."

Can anyone find out what street this is?

I think I've posted before that I also see some people listed at this address as being members of St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Yoakum.

I've also found an obituary somewhat linked to the family of the neighbor for a man who passed on January 1, 2010. The man's last name is the same as the neighbor and his initials are RG. He was 53 at his death and lived in Stafford but was formerly of Yoakum. Several people in the list of survivors also show up as connected with the home address of the "neighbor" in Yoakum. It is listed here:

http://txobits.blogspot.com/2010/01/texas-obituaries-01042010.html

In reading this man's obit, I wondered about the sentence, "He was a carrier and a Catholic." What does the word carrier mean in this context? Is it in reference to his employment, a medical condition, or his religion?

Okay, reading this post...especially the part about the obituary...services at the church...elderly ladies would be in attendance....what if our guy was a delivery guy for a floral shop? Or my other thought was what if he worked in some capacity for a funeral home?

OH - I think carrier might mean "postal carrier"...jmo

 

[DeepThinker]

I wonder if these ladies served together on any church committees? I was raised Methodist, and our church always had a committee of grandmotherly types who cooked lunches and such for after the funeral...I didn't know if the Catholics do the same...I would imagine they do. jmo