TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #3

[Spiritecho]

Following Balor's post, I didn't quote for space.

Has anyone mapped out the times from when she says he left, their home? to where the truck was found? Does it match? and I know I saw somewhere, she was charging her phone in the van, not in the home and missed his calls, did Brandon NOT leave one message? or text her? but then I thought I also read she was staying at a motel? What motel? When? If he went missing close to home, as in 30 minutes from leaving their home to calling his brother...why do you need a motel?

 

[nannymo]

I am going back to the beginning and sorting and trying to break through the timelines and MSM information as well as the LE information. So, there is one news source that I looked at that quoted LE that I found interesting.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/law-officials-seek-information-of-missing-man

Officials established Lawson had recently spent time with friends and acquaintances, the release states.

Below is snipped from the Blogtalk interview that LL did. :


LL: Yeah. Brandon went missing August 9, 2013. We got in an argument, he left our house, and he ran out of gas. And he called his brother and said he ran out of gas and, when he went there, Brandon wasn't at the truck and the cop, Deputy N, pulled up at the same time. We didn't know at the time that Brandon called 911, but Brandon did call 911 at 12:53, then he called his brother at 12:38, and then they arrived at 1:10, the cop and his brother did, and Brandon wasn't there. It's been, on Friday it'll be six months. We still don't have one clue of where Brandon is or what happened, but we do have his 911 call saying that someone was after him, chasing him. And that's about it. That's all of the clues we have, and that Brandon was in the middle of a field. But, besides that, we don't have any clue or any suspicions where Brandon's at. That's all I have.

H: All right. And just so our listeners know, we did spend quite an amount of time on the phone last night, discussing everything, trying to come up with as many ideas as we could, and basically going over everything that we were going to talk about tonight. To lead off everything so everyone will know the sequence of events, I'm going to give a little timeline. <snip/utter confusion> But at 11:53, Brandon left his house in San Angelo, Texas. And at 12:38, he called his brother K, saying that he had run out of gas, and (unintelligible) some gas, whatever. And that was at 12:38. And at 12:54, that there was a 911 call placed by Brandon saying that somebody was running after him and, on the 911 call, you said it did sound like he was running?

LL: Yeah, you could tell he was running. He was just out of, the way he was talking on the phone and you could hear it. In the Texas weather in August, there wasn't really any wind, so you could kind of hear Brandon running and he was a little bit out of breath

H: Oh, okay. And my producer did just ask me to clarify that he left the house at 11:53pm, at night. And at 12:38, 38 minutes past midnight is when he called his brother K, and six minutes till 1am is when he call 911. And you said that they both arrived at 1:10am or 1:19am?

LL: 1:10. 1:10.

H: <snip> They both arrived at the truck at 1:10am and Brandon was nowhere to be found.

LL states Brandon left her residence at 11:53pm, and he called his brother at 12:38 am saying he ran out of gas, then Brandon called 911 at 12:54, then both K & LE arrived at the same time , 1:10am. So, if he was with friends prior to running out of gas, where were the friends at ? It seems like such a short time to go from LL's in SA, then to see friends?... And not know he had enough gas and was headed to Bronte? Just seems very odd. Opinions or theories anyone? TIA

Do you realize she says he called 911 at 12:53 and then called KL at 12:38. If you were telling this in sequence you would say he called KL at 12:38 and then called 911 at 12:53. That would be the natural order of telling a story of facts.

He was texting and talking to KL and his girlfriend AFTER the 911 call. Why did he not say something to them about being with someone or in trouble?

They say he did say he was bleeding, but really doesn't go into detail.

There is a cell tower close by so I don't think there would be a problem connecting that close to Bronte. Further toward Abilene and San Angelo there are connection problems.

Just doesn't make sense. BTW everyone. Don't forget the blogtalkradio show that was scheduled for 9/26 wasn't it???

 

[nannymo]

Following Balor's post, I didn't quote for space.

Has anyone mapped out the times from when she says he left, their home? to where the truck was found? Does it match? and I know I saw somewhere, she was charging her phone in the van, not in the home and missed his calls, did Brandon NOT leave one message? or text her? but then I thought I also read she was staying at a motel? What motel? When? If he went missing close to home, as in 30 minutes from leaving their home to calling his brother...why do you need a motel?

I have driven that road many times. If they lived on the north side of San Angelo, you should be able to get to Bronte in about 20 minutes. If BL left the house at 11:50 ish, that would put him in Bronte no later than 12:15. He ran out of gas south of Bronte a few miles, so if he called KL at 12:38 I see it as having about 20 minutes unaccounted for in the timeline.

Early on there were rumors of him being at Walmart and then being chased.

This is plausible to me. e.g. Leave the house at 11:50, take 10 minutes to drive to Walmart. Call whoever on the way (LE should have this info). Meet whoever, talk, get in another argument over who knows what and take off being chased. This accounts for leaving town without enough gas. By now it's 12:10 or so. Give him 20 minutes to get to Bronte. That is a closer timeline I think.

The story LL told about BL heading to his dads in ft worth really doesn't make sense to me. It would be at least a 4 1/2 hour drive to Ft Worth. You don't plan on a drive that far and not get gas before you leave town. Just doesn't cut the mustard for me. Especially in this part of rural Texas where the gas stations are few and far between at this time of the night. You just don't do it unless you are running, lost or not from Texas! This is a big state and many times you find yourself looking for a gas station when traveling.

 

[Bigmomma29]

In my opinion if Brandon was going to Ft. Worth to his dad's, he would have taken the other road hwy 67 (I think is the road number). Yes supposedly her phone was in van charging, she missed all Brandon's calls, but not Kyles.
Yes she stayed in a local motel Country Inn (I think is the name) there in Bronte. It is a very small local motel. Ladessa stayed in the motel the whole weekend.
I myself have traveled this road several times. I have posted pictures before of different things that do not add up to me. Phone service does work in Bronte Texas. The terrain is not as horrible as it has been portrayed, yes there is barbwire fencing, thorn bush trees, and cactus.

 

[SavetheQueen]

I am going back to the beginning and sorting and trying to break through the timelines and MSM information as well as the LE information. So, there is one news source that I looked at that quoted LE that I found interesting.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/law-officials-seek-information-of-missing-man

Officials established Lawson had recently spent time with friends and acquaintances, the release states.

Below is snipped from the Blogtalk interview that LL did. :


LL: Yeah. Brandon went missing August 9, 2013. We got in an argument, he left our house, and he ran out of gas. And he called his brother and said he ran out of gas and, when he went there, Brandon wasn't at the truck and the cop, Deputy N, pulled up at the same time. We didn't know at the time that Brandon called 911, but Brandon did call 911 at 12:53, then he called his brother at 12:38, and then they arrived at 1:10, the cop and his brother did, and Brandon wasn't there. It's been, on Friday it'll be six months. We still don't have one clue of where Brandon is or what happened, but we do have his 911 call saying that someone was after him, chasing him. And that's about it. That's all of the clues we have, and that Brandon was in the middle of a field. But, besides that, we don't have any clue or any suspicions where Brandon's at. That's all I have.

H: All right. And just so our listeners know, we did spend quite an amount of time on the phone last night, discussing everything, trying to come up with as many ideas as we could, and basically going over everything that we were going to talk about tonight. To lead off everything so everyone will know the sequence of events, I'm going to give a little timeline. <snip/utter confusion> But at 11:53, Brandon left his house in San Angelo, Texas. And at 12:38, he called his brother K, saying that he had run out of gas, and (unintelligible) some gas, whatever. And that was at 12:38. And at 12:54, that there was a 911 call placed by Brandon saying that somebody was running after him and, on the 911 call, you said it did sound like he was running?

LL: Yeah, you could tell he was running. He was just out of, the way he was talking on the phone and you could hear it. In the Texas weather in August, there wasn't really any wind, so you could kind of hear Brandon running and he was a little bit out of breath

H: Oh, okay. And my producer did just ask me to clarify that he left the house at 11:53pm, at night. And at 12:38, 38 minutes past midnight is when he called his brother K, and six minutes till 1am is when he call 911. And you said that they both arrived at 1:10am or 1:19am?

LL: 1:10. 1:10.

H: <snip> They both arrived at the truck at 1:10am and Brandon was nowhere to be found.

LL states Brandon left her residence at 11:53pm, and he called his brother at 12:38 am saying he ran out of gas, then Brandon called 911 at 12:54, then both K & LE arrived at the same time , 1:10am. So, if he was with friends prior to running out of gas, where were the friends at ? It seems like such a short time to go from LL's in SA, then to see friends?... And not know he had enough gas and was headed to Bronte? Just seems very odd. Opinions or theories anyone? TIA

And where's the mention of them getting into an argument before he left?


*Unless specifically indicated, all opinions are my own. *

 

[SavetheQueen]

In my opinion if Brandon was going to Ft. Worth to his dad's, he would have taken the other road hwy 67 (I think is the road number). Yes supposedly her phone was in van charging, she missed all Brandon's calls, but not Kyles.
Yes she stayed in a local motel Country Inn (I think is the name) there in Bronte. It is a very small local motel. Ladessa stayed in the motel the whole weekend.
I myself have traveled this road several times. I have posted pictures before of different things that do not add up to me. Phone service does work in Bronte Texas. The terrain is not as horrible as it has been portrayed, yes there is barbwire fencing, thorn bush trees, and cactus.

A friend of mine makes regular fishing trips to the lake outside of Robert Lee. He stops at the Stripes to get snacks and such. Has never seen a Brandon poster one. He purposefully looks each trip just to see.


*Unless specifically indicated, all opinions are my own. *

 

[Balor51]

Following Balor's post, I didn't quote for space.

Has anyone mapped out the times from when she says he left, their home? to where the truck was found? Does it match? and I know I saw somewhere, she was charging her phone in the van, not in the home and missed his calls, did Brandon NOT leave one message? or text her? but then I thought I also read she was staying at a motel? What motel? When? If he went missing close to home, as in 30 minutes from leaving their home to calling his brother...why do you need a motel?

I am not sure about mapping the times. All that was mentioned by her, not once when asked if he left her any voice mails or msgs has she ever answered. In fact most who ask questions on the FB page they tend to get deleted. The name of the Motel I have no idea about, someone more local can probably answer that. I believe the Motel stay was from Friday through Monday, and I will have to look for the link, but someone was online on the FB page asking for people to donate money for the Motel stay. Not sure why she stayed there when she wasn't that far from home. All seems very odd.

 

[ChuckieD]

I am not sure about mapping the times. All that was mentioned by her, not once when asked if he left her any voice mails or msgs has she ever answered. In fact most who ask questions on the FB page they tend to get deleted. The name of the Motel I have no idea about, someone more local can probably answer that. I believe the Motel stay was from Friday through Monday, and I will have to look for the link, but someone was online on the FB page asking for people to donate money for the Motel stay. Not sure why she stayed there when she wasn't that far from home. All seems very odd.

Have LL's phone records even been pulled or is everybody taking her word for that too?

 

[Balor51]

Have LL's phone records even been pulled or is everybody taking her word for that too?

That is a good question, I would like to know that as well. I don't think it has ever been stated as to who was the cell phone account holder. But it was publicly stated by LL that she did not know Brandon called 911 until she pulled up the phone records on Verizon. That is all , besides the description of his phone that I have ever seen publicly.

 

[Balor51]

And where's the mention of them getting into an argument before he left?


*Unless specifically indicated, all opinions are my own. *

I was surprised the argument was not mentioned in the blogtalk interview, but in any of the MSM interviews she has mentioned it.

 

[Balor51]

In my opinion if Brandon was going to Ft. Worth to his dad's, he would have taken the other road hwy 67 (I think is the road number). Yes supposedly her phone was in van charging, she missed all Brandon's calls, but not Kyles.
Yes she stayed in a local motel Country Inn (I think is the name) there in Bronte. It is a very small local motel. Ladessa stayed in the motel the whole weekend.
I myself have traveled this road several times. I have posted pictures before of different things that do not add up to me. Phone service does work in Bronte Texas. The terrain is not as horrible as it has been portrayed, yes there is barbwire fencing, thorn bush trees, and cactus.

Do you know what the price range is for the Motel? Just curious. Also one thing that has always concerned me, if we look over SM & MSM, and an argument did occur, and she was staying at the Motel all during that weekend, where were the children? It was stated in MSM that one of the kids was sick. I'm just curious. I also have wondered if the kids witnessed the argument. That can be pretty traumatic for kids

 

[Balor51]

Do you realize she says he called 911 at 12:53 and then called KL at 12:38. If you were telling this in sequence you would say he called KL at 12:38 and then called 911 at 12:53. That would be the natural order of telling a story of facts.

He was texting and talking to KL and his girlfriend AFTER the 911 call. Why did he not say something to them about being with someone or in trouble?

They say he did say he was bleeding, but really doesn't go into detail.

There is a cell tower close by so I don't think there would be a problem connecting that close to Bronte. Further toward Abilene and San Angelo there are connection problems.

Just doesn't make sense. BTW everyone. Don't forget the blogtalkradio show that was scheduled for 9/26 wasn't it???

I totally missed that, I'm sorry. I posted late after being at outpatient all day.. Grrrr. I need to post earlier in the daytime..lol I never understood why Brandon never said anything to K & A. Unless it wasn't Brandon who was doing the texting. That could be possible. I don't know, just when you think your making headway, something always is there is a road block or weird turn.


I think your right about the 9/26 show, but the hosts from my understanding are about to be homeless or are already homeless. Not sure how that will affect the show. I would like to call in if they have it. Maybe, maybe we can get some questions answered. Just a quick thought, how many cell towers are there out the way Brandon would have traveled? TIA

 

[Balor51]

I have driven that road many times. If they lived on the north side of San Angelo, you should be able to get to Bronte in about 20 minutes. If BL left the house at 11:50 ish, that would put him in Bronte no later than 12:15. He ran out of gas south of Bronte a few miles, so if he called KL at 12:38 I see it as having about 20 minutes unaccounted for in the timeline.

Early on there were rumors of him being at Walmart and then being chased.

This is plausible to me. e.g. Leave the house at 11:50, take 10 minutes to drive to Walmart. Call whoever on the way (LE should have this info). Meet whoever, talk, get in another argument over who knows what and take off being chased. This accounts for leaving town without enough gas. By now it's 12:10 or so. Give him 20 minutes to get to Bronte. That is a closer timeline I think.

The story LL told about BL heading to his dads in ft worth really doesn't make sense to me. It would be at least a 4 1/2 hour drive to Ft Worth. You don't plan on a drive that far and not get gas before you leave town. Just doesn't cut the mustard for me. Especially in this part of rural Texas where the gas stations are few and far between at this time of the night. You just don't do it unless you are running, lost or not from Texas! This is a big state and many times you find yourself looking for a gas station when traveling.

Totally agree with you ! I remember, and I'm not sure if anyone got a SS of it before it was deleted, but it was stated on HFBL in the very beginning that Brandon was supposed to have been headed there and his dad had said he was fine. Then it was deleted and it was told ( by whoever was admining , LL or whomever ) that his dad was mistaken and was very upset. I will try and find the link , maybe someone also has a SS.

The timeline has always seemed more full of unanswered questions and confusing to say the least. Just answering some very basic questions I think could help this case so much. It is in the beginning, that is where the answers lay. :thinking:

 

[Spiritecho]

In my opinion if Brandon was going to Ft. Worth to his dad's, he would have taken the other road hwy 67 (I think is the road number). Yes supposedly her phone was in van charging, she missed all Brandon's calls, but not Kyles.
Yes she stayed in a local motel Country Inn (I think is the name) there in Bronte. It is a very small local motel. Ladessa stayed in the motel the whole weekend.
I myself have traveled this road several times. I have posted pictures before of different things that do not add up to me. Phone service does work in Bronte Texas. The terrain is not as horrible as it has been portrayed, yes there is barbwire fencing, thorn bush trees, and cactus.

Ok, so has it been asked and answered WHY was she at a motel? So they did or did not have a home in Bronte? Were they staying in this 'motel' so he didn't travel so much for his job? Why she was able to call Kyle, get a call back from him, knowing Brandon was on the side of the road waiting. Maybe I'm different, I would have had that phone in my hand no matter what until I knew everything and everyone was safe and it was handled.
I do not get this at all...I am going have to go back and do my own reading, so many things bother me with this....I wish I could send her some interrogatories and requests for production ROFL(legal docs) asking for the phone records, her bank account statements, the actual police report when someone finally went in (like 3 days later?). How long after he 'disappeared' did she move?
Did we ever hear on the cadaver dogs scent thing?

 

[Spiritecho]

I have another thought, MOO, you can tell his parents, grandparents are hurting and grieving, it does not appear to be fake. Saying that, it also almost comes across they know who, what, where, why it happened but they have to maintain their silence. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and reading things that aren't really there.

 

[Spiritecho]

Here are some of our questions answered, somewhat, sorry it's so long

From http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...IA-ONLY-NO-DISCUSSION&p=10385597#post10385597

Quote Originally Posted by OkieGranny View Post
Transcript of BlogTalk Radio interview with Brandon Lawson's wife, Part 1
January 27, 2014

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...day-with-orion

Key to Participants:

H: Host
LL: Brandon's wife
Caller: A call-in guest

LL: Not really. They just, when I called, my phone was in my van charging, because I told K that I was going to put the gas cans outside the porch, because I was, it was my son that was sick for two days. He had a double ear infection at the time. Well, I told K, go give your brother gas and tell him to come home, or let him cool off at your house, because my brother-in-law was the only one that, any family we had in San Angelo. Well, I went to sleep and then I woke up at 4:30 and I kind of was having a bad dream, panicking, and when I woke up, I went and looked at my phone, and I had three missed calls from Brandon and I had like ten from K and I had a text message that they were going to tow the truck, and they couldn't find Brandon. Well, I got scared and I called Brandon many a time and it went straight to voice mail. I could not get ahold of him. I called K and, when I told K, K was kind of panicking, and he couldn't find Brandon. He didn't know where he was at. The cop was there at the time. He didn't know where Brandon was at. He thought once the cop left, Brandon would come out. We still never knew Brandon called 911, or it would have been a whole different situation.

H: Okay, that they picked up on hog scent but they didn't pick up on anything on Brandon at that time, or when the cadaver dogs were there?

LL: Yeah, they didn't pick up anything with Brandon. But I believe that the whole time we have been searching the wrong area. We're not searching the right area. We keep on focusing on by the truck. We don't need to focus on the truck. We need to focus on Brandon's, the accurate last ping and do a five-mile radius around that.

H: <snip> Let's go on with the timeline for a little bit. On that call at 1:19 where he was bleeding and he was out, the phone call was coming in and out and he was out in this field somewhere. Last night you said there was a ping that was about 4 miles away from where the vehicle was.

H: All right. And was that area down there by the Colorado River where they had indication where he was, was that area searched at all?

WHAT? We have never discussed the River...WTH!?!

LL: Yeah, it was about 4 1/4 of a mile. It was pings at the Colorado River, but my private investigator, her name is BP, and she is awesome. She is just, God couldn't have gave me a better PI, a caring PI that's just been here for me and my family and my children, and she's cried with me during this, and it's hard to find people like that, but she cares about people. And she was able to do research and we absolutely got what the Rangers were working on, but we got a better ping of Brandon's area because the last ping was two to three miles off and B was able to pull some strings and do different things and was able to find out that we could get a closer ping. And we thought the records was not with us no more. The records, because so long, they don't keep up with the pings if it's been so long. But I'm looking forward to knowing that and maybe we will have a bit more indication of where Brandon is, because I don't think it'll be a lot of fee. I'm not sure.

Caller: Okay, is some of the problems associated with possibly finding his phone the fact that it may not be on or the battery is dead?

LL: Yeah, it went dead that night. The last ping that Brandon had was at 1:19 in the morning, but my brother-in-law, K, he said that Brandon's phone was on until 3:30 in the morning because he was calling it and it kept on ringing and ringing and ringing and ringing. Brandon's phone, because I knew, because when he was on location in the oilfield, I couldn't get ahold of him sometimes because he didn't have no service. So it goes to 41 seconds and then it will go to voicemail, and so he didn't have no service but his phone was on until 3:30 in the morning. That's why I feel like Brandon's out there because, if not, if Brandon would've got service anywhere on that highway or got a ride or somebody picked him up, there would have been some kind of service. You know what I mean?

H: Oh, I didn't realize that. So the officer came from one way and K came from the other way, and neither one of them saw him.

LL: No. Yeah, well, because if you leave from San Angelo, you have to go into Bronte to get gas. See, San Angelo and Bronte are about, if you go into town, it's about, I don't know, 37, 38 miles all the way, how fast you go. And if you leave San Angelo and don't get gas in the middle, you pretty much have to get gas in Bronte.

H: All right, so he had not yet made it to Bronte?

LL: No, he was in Bronte. You know, it's Bronte but he didn't make it to the town.

H: Oh, yeah, he didn't make it to where the services were?

LL: Yeah. Yes.

aller: From your house to where he broke down, am I understanding correctly? It was roughly 30-some miles?

LL: Yeah, it's 35 miles. See, when Brandon first went missing, that Friday I stayed in the Country Inn, in the hotel there. They only have one and I stayed in there the whole weekend because going back and forth was too hard. It was too much. That's an hour and ten minutes both ways, so I just stayed there because I was searching non-stop, calling his name, you know, trying to find him.

 

[Spiritecho]

One more...
Here is the link to the latest article August 30th, http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/s...-search-for-miss/17736/OiE4CaoAPki4xwOOlKO-ww

just let the video play, they play that portion of his 911 we can not understand. Sitting here tonight, i can hear fairly clearly," I'm right here where the State Trooper just pulled some guys over, on both sides going to Abiline and my truck ran out of gas...."

Has anyone ever found out if any other LE was out there besides the deputy? If that is a well traveled route for semis.....
How many others along this road, this area are missing?

 

[Balor51]

Ok, so has it been asked and answered WHY was she at a motel? So they did or did not have a home in Bronte? Were they staying in this 'motel' so he didn't travel so much for his job? Why she was able to call Kyle, get a call back from him, knowing Brandon was on the side of the road waiting. Maybe I'm different, I would have had that phone in my hand no matter what until I knew everything and everyone was safe and it was handled.
I do not get this at all...I am going have to go back and do my own reading, so many things bother me with this....I wish I could send her some interrogatories and requests for production ROFL(legal docs) asking for the phone records, her bank account statements, the actual police report when someone finally went in (like 3 days later?). How long after he 'disappeared' did she move?
Did we ever hear on the cadaver dogs scent thing?

I believe the date that she moved was September 14th 2013 , it was posted on the HFBL facebook page. Found the link , you have to look through the comments , but it is there. https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/145925378949878

I am one who probably could never leave my phone charging away from me. I would be terrified family or friends would be trying to get ahold of me in an emergency. We as a society has sure become dependent on close communications


Never heard again about the cadaver dogs scented. Nada...nothing zilch! No idea where the dogs were from either. It was none of the SAR teams within the area/state.

AT this point, I don't know what to think anymore. Makes no sense.

 

[Balor51]

I have another thought, MOO, you can tell his parents, grandparents are hurting and grieving, it does not appear to be fake. Saying that, it also almost comes across they know who, what, where, why it happened but they have to maintain their silence. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and reading things that aren't really there.

I agree. I think they have some idea. What I have always found odd, was that they let the girlfriend take point in all of it. JMO, but if it was me, I would be saying I'm mom you go sit down , I got this. I actually told my son's girlfriend that..lol She told my son that I scare her :scared:.. It just seems like it would be a natural thing for parents to be right in the forefront. I dunno, JMO

 

[Balor51]

Here are some of our questions answered, somewhat, sorry it's so long

I believe, and I could be wrong, but the river was discussed when Ranch wife posted here. Some of the other sleuthers may know. But I think the terrain was the reason that he wouldn't have made it that far, and I believe ( could be wrong here too ) , that the river area was also searched.

I must drive fast. It takes me about 30-35 mins to drive 35 miles. :shame::jail: