TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #4

[folieadeuxnola]

This is the first I've heard about bleach and I've followed this since day one. I do recall her stating they argued and he punched something causing him to bleed. But nothing about bleach

As for the phone issue, that was my major red flag, she got Kyle's calls but none of Brandon's??? If her phone was charging like she said, how did she get one call and not another??


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Will have to go back and re-read ... Assume this may have been info posted in social media that may no longer be there.

Imo .... Would not use bleach to clean and open bleeding womb that would be super painful ... However I would use bleach to clean blood off of a surface ..i.e. Floors counter tops etc.. General household cleaning but never a flesh womb.

Recalling from memory the phone was placed on the charger after speaking or texting K. L may have already had a missed called from BL prior to Kyle just that she was mad from the argument and was ignoring BL. I for one have ignored a call and/or text if it was someone I was ticked at.

 

[Karmin]

Will have to go back and re-read ... Assume this may have been info posted in social media that may no longer be there.

Imo .... Would not use bleach to clean and open bleeding womb that would be super painful ... However I would use bleach to clean blood off of a surface ..i.e. Floors counter tops etc.. General household cleaning but never a flesh womb.

Recalling from memory the phone was placed on the charger after speaking or texting K. L may have already had a missed called from BL prior to Kyle just that she was mad from the argument and was ignoring BL. I for one have ignored a call and/or text if it was someone I was ticked at.

I agree with the bleach.
The phone if she had already spoke or text KL, she would have known BL was having issues and stranded. Also, think back in the very beginning, the night he went missing, she was posting all night long on garage sale sites stating of anyone sees BL to call her, so that there also leads me to believe she had her phone the whole time. Ugh!! None of this adds up!!
IMO


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[folieadeuxnola]

I agree with the bleach.
The phone if she had already spoke or text KL, she would have known BL was having issues and stranded. Also, think back in the very beginning, the night he went missing, she was posting all night long on garage sale sites stating of anyone sees BL to call her, so that there also leads me to believe she had her phone the whole time. Ugh!! None of this adds up!!
IMO


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Yes do recalll there was some comments one had made looking for BL on garage sites...

What would be probable/plausiable motives ..... Many other cases tend to turn to the motive of $$$$. Which in this case could be possible ... Another drug related not induced however transactions involved withn the wrong persons

this question has come up multiple times ... The supposed altercation at argument at Walmart ... If that occurred it should have been founded by now. walmart and also sams has cameras on the light poles as well along the front of the building. if BL had been there video tapes from the camers would easily validate ...

 

[Karmin]

At one point it was validated and then name calling and cursing came into play and that whole Wal Mart altercation was recanted


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[doris5]

At one point it was validated and then name calling and cursing came into play and that whole Wal Mart altercation was recanted


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Yes I think we can strike the Walmart incident from the records. Always seemed like BS to me.

Motive? The 401k and her public pleas for employment, as well as her later fraud charge, would suggest she had a financial motive. Her mishandling of donations to the find Brandon cause also suggest a mercenary character. But I don't believe that's the full story.

What would kyles motive be to off his brother, out of interest? Purely hypothetically of course. But as he and LL were supposedly the last to be in contact with BL, let's pursue this angle and consider the possibilities...



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[Karmin]

The 401K check just adds more suspicion to me. They said he was off because of rain, but then said he had quit and was starting working with someone else.
And you bring up a good point with motive. There is speculation but nothing solid.
What happened to the neighbor who was so vocal in the beginning about the fights, about seeing Brandon leave? Where are his so called co-workers they said helped look for him? Where are these people, and why have they not spoke up? Not a single person said "yes I'm a co-worker and I helped look for him" SOMEONE SPEAK UP FOR THE KIDS


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[doris5]

The 401K check just adds more suspicion to me. They said he was off because of rain, but then said he had quit and was starting working with someone else.
And you bring up a good point with motive. There is speculation but nothing solid.
What happened to the neighbor who was so vocal in the beginning about the fights, about seeing Brandon leave? Where are his so called co-workers they said helped look for him? Where are these people, and why have they not spoke up? Not a single person said "yes I'm a co-worker and I helped look for him" SOMEONE SPEAK UP FOR THE KIDS


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The bottom line in this case is this: the 911 call is a monumental red herring. Let's put that and any theories on what Brandon encountered on that desolate road aside now.

The biggest roadblock to a resolution here is the lack of a search of LL's old San Angelo house. Although there are new tenants in there now, theoretically some evidence could still remain on the property.

LE need to search that place ASAP.




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[folieadeuxnola]

At one point it was validated and then name calling and cursing came into play and that whole Wal Mart altercation was recanted


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At one point it was validated and then name calling and cursing came into play and that whole Wal Mart altercation was recanted


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it was validated .... As yes an altercation occurred or no altercation occured at Walmart

Ya know sometimes its all in how one approaches another the reactions you will receive
if you push they will push back.. Unfortunate it occurred ... ... it Turned the
Case upside down as the cat claws came out.

the he said she said Cussed me out and called me a name is not actual evidence
That could be used to prosecute a case therefore I will leave that matter out.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Follow the 401k line as one possible motive... Still feel there is good possibility of drug trafficking activity etc..

 

[Karmin]

it was validated .... As yes an altercation occurred or no altercation occured at Walmart

Ya know sometimes its all in how one approaches another the reactions you will receive
if you push they will push back.. Unfortunate it occurred ... ... it Turned the
Case upside down as the cat claws came out.

the he said she said Cussed me out and called me a name is not actual evidence
That could be used to prosecute a case therefore I will leave that matter out.

No one pushed for info, someone would say "heard there was something about Wal Mart" claws came out. The way you answer questions and present and talk to others says tons. A simple, "that rumor has not been proven but being looked into" would have been a great answer, but that isn't how questions were handled. They were handled with f you, it's none of your business.
It sucks no answers were given, why hasn't LE looked at the house? That was the last place BL was seen alive.


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[doris5]

No one pushed for info, someone would say "heard there was something about Wal Mart" claws came out. The way you answer questions and present and talk to others says tons. A simple, "that rumor has not been proven but being looked into" would have been a great answer, but that isn't how questions were handled. They were handled with f you, it's none of your business.
It sucks no answers were given, why hasn't LE looked at the house? That was the last place BL was seen alive.


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I wonder if there should be a petition or something to search the house!? Incredibly frustrating that LE never did that...


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[folieadeuxnola]

No one pushed for info, someone would say "heard there was something about Wal Mart" claws came out. The way you answer questions and present and talk to others says tons. A simple, "that rumor has not been proven but being looked into" would have been a great answer, but that isn't how questions were handled. They were handled with f you, it's none of your business.
It sucks no answers were given, why hasn't LE looked at the house? That was the last place BL was seen alive.


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The approach is everything .. You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

That is a huge unanswered question .... Doesnt LE investigate the last place the person was seen alive...

Like a book we tend to read from the beginning to the end .... time to reverse this And read from end to the beginning.
Ya know there is always some truth in every lie ... Have to do some rethinking on the statements made thus far

 

[Karmin]

Great questions!!! What can the public do to get more interest in the investigation? What would it take for some info to be considered open records?? Do things have to be approved by the family before something is open record??


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[doris5]

Great questions!!! What can the public do to get more interest in the investigation? What would it take for some info to be considered open records?? Do things have to be approved by the family before something is open record??


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I'd urge anyone local to the area to drum up more interest and somehow urge LE to search that place. Or at least put LL and KL through more thorough questioning. Clearly they know the truth


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[folieadeuxnola]

Yes I think we can strike the Walmart incident from the records. Always seemed like BS to me.

Motive? The 401k and her public pleas for employment, as well as her later fraud charge, would suggest she had a financial motive. Her mishandling of donations to the find Brandon cause also suggest a mercenary character. But I don't believe that's the full story.

What would kyles motive be to off his brother, out of interest? Purely hypothetically of course. But as he and LL were supposedly the last to be in contact with BL, let's pursue this angle and consider the possibilities...



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Spot on Doris .... State or Federal fraud well it not anything that is uncommon have heard this time and time again
common occurrence .. unfortunate for tax payersthiu. Find it no different than your average everday hard working lower middle and upper class individuals that fudge on their taxes each year ...

 

[Karmin]

Spot on Doris .... State or Federal fraud well it not anything that is uncommon have heard this time and time again
common occurrence .. unfortunate for tax payersthiu. Find it no different than your average everday hard working lower middle and upper class individuals that fudge on their taxes each year ...

You are right it's not uncommon, but saying your children's father isn't in the picture (when they were clearly living together) on government documents, and then less than 6 months later he goes missing?? Why not be forthcoming and tell the truth on government papers?? Why lie?


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[doris5]

You are right it's not uncommon, but saying your children's father isn't in the picture (when they were clearly living together) on government documents, and then less than 6 months later he goes missing?? Why not be forthcoming and tell the truth on government papers?? Why lie?


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It paints a picture of a dishonest person. Add to that the changing stories about the night of Brandon's disappearance and her general hectoring of anyone who contradicts her, and one gets the impression of a less than pleasant individual.

Obviously that's just my observation, and unpleasant person to potential killer is a huge leap. But she's bloody suspect, everyone is in agreement about that.

But what do we know about Kyle?

And perhaps more intriguing is: what do we know about Kyle and ladessas relationship?


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[Karmin]

Oh I love your last question!!! That is the major question that needs to be looked into!


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[doris5]

Oh I love your last question!!! That is the major question that needs to be looked into!


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Yes... Anyone know?


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[AzPistonsGirl]

I am stuck on bleach in the womb. I know the OP meant wound but that was the first post I saw today and I can't get that thought out of my mind. YIKES!

Back to business. I read but have not commented on this thread in a long time. Just so good that strangers who don't even know Brandon or his family care enough to give this their time and energy. Justice will come, Brandon, it will...