Found Safe TX - Brianna Morgan Gilbert, 22, went missing during shift break, Amarillo, 30 Mar 2021

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I hope LE has noted, or been made aware of the comment under some discussion upthread.
 
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I agree with others who interpreted Brianna's gait as portraying a light mood, and she moved with purpose. However, I watched the video again just now, and how she placed her hands in her pockets brought to mind a habit I've developed.

When I'm in a dodgy area, or walking at night, I keep my right hand in my pocket, clutching an open penknife, or the trigger on a small bear-spray canister.

Brianna opened the wire-mesh gate with her right hand, which could suggest it's her dominant hand, and having passed through the gate it's that right hand which she first placed in a pocket.

If she too carried protection in her hidden right hand, it could indicate apprehension about the area she was in, or whom she'd possibly arranged to meet.
To me, it looks like she is checking something in her pocket. Maybe a knife, as you suggest, or checking to see she had her phone, cash, house keys, something else. Could be a habit to check (I have that habit) or could be making sure she had something specific she needed. When watching the gesture, I was half expecting to see her pull something out.

Let's keep looking at the video - so many ideas are being generating.

jmo
 
  • #485
I wish we knew if it was typical for employees to head to the back of that parking lot on break. Is that an area where people hang out and smoke? Or at least just hang out when on break? Was she the only employee who was on a break from 8-830?

The video mentions about 17 min after she was last seen, she sends that last text "I love you." So she was either hanging out in the back of the lot, messing around on her phone or whatever during break and never got a chance to walk back into work OR something happened to her after she left camera view and someone else sent that text for her. MOO
 
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Was she the only employee who was on a break from 8-830?
I am curious about that too. Did she normally have a break with co-workers, and if so, did she just not join them that shift or did she say something to them? Was she running an errand for a co-worker? Or did she normally spend break on her own. Maybe she walked that route before?

OR something happened to her after she left camera view and someone else sent that text for her. MOO
I've been wondering from the start if she texted that herself or not. Was that a typical response from her or out of the ordinary?

jmo
 
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@jellybean96, When you were over there, does the walk she took look like she walked around the block and back towards her job?
Maybe she goes for a walk and doesn't tell SO about it. I wonder if she is well liked at work or more kept to herself. I don't like that a coworker saw her either hugging someone or getting attacked and didn't report that. When did that occur, before or after her walking? IMO
 
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The clarity is exceptional. Unusual for colour video cctv. Walking with your hands in your pockets like Brianna is suggests she's fairly relaxed. Her shoulders aren't hunched, she's walking at a casual pace, she isn't scanning the area. She doesnt appear to be in distress. On a 30 minute break could she be heading to a fast food place nearby? Even though she left her wallet at home she could have kept some money in her locker. Do we know if employees had their own lockers or did shift workers have to share them?
 
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I don't like that a coworker saw her either hugging someone or getting attacked and didn't report that. When did that occur, before or after her walking? IMO

Whaaat?! :eek:
I must have missed that being discussed!!
 
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Hi all - just started following this case. At first, I was highly suspicious of the coworkers because of them not reporting her as missing until later, but after catching up, reading through the thread and watching the video, I don't think that what happened to her was related to her job. I am on the fence as to whether this was a voluntary disappearance, or possibly foul play.

Although the situation is somewhat different, this case reminds me a little of that of VB <modsnip: Full name redacted; please use initials only>, who vanished after her shift at Home Depot - when her mom went to pick her up, she wasn't there. There was silence from her co-workers, seemingly ominous and suspicious. There was no contact with her family with whom she was very close. However, she had been fired just before she was seen walking off. The investigation uncovered that she had bought a bus ticket to NYC though no 100% confirmation was available. Eventually (several months?) she contacted her mother and told her she was safe, wanted to start a new life, etc...

So someone mentioned there was a bus depot nearby, I hope surveillance video from there has been pulled, at a minimum, but if I were her family/friends I would definitely put up posters of her or ask if anyone has seen her at the bus depot. Easy transportation to get elsewhere fast.

I do hope she just wanted to get away and start fresh - but there is enough in her relationship at even a surface level to warrant digging a little deeper into the possibility of foul play. Time will tell.
 
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JMO The man in the video seems to be walking the opposite route of BG. He seems to come from the direction of the employee parking lot, and he turns behind BG as though he will go to the chain link gate to enter Plains Dairy - the gate BG exits in the beginning. Is he just another employee?

Also, didn't the coworkers, not LE, say they saw her maybe talk to a Hispanic man? In other words, not on camera video (LE), but some employee(s) personally saw her talk to or hug someone in the parking lot area?

Video is wonderful. So that's a modern "poncho". I could mistake her for a young male if driving by.

Yeah that's not what I was envisioning when I think 'poncho'. She would appear Male to any possible bad guy looking for a random female so that is a positive, IMO. She's definitely walking with a destination in mind. I wonder if LE have asked any fast food joints in the area to review their tapes?
 
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Potential things that may lead to danger or foul play, IMO.

* That she is LGBTQ at a male dominated industrial job in a very conservative city.

* That she was walking alone in an unsavoury part of town towards a parking lot with trucks and trailers near dusk.

* She has a stressful home and domestic life, possibly financially deficient and the relationship may be fraught.

One could be due to a nefarious co-worker, one could be due to a stranger, and one could be domestic/someone she knew in her private life. That's 3 avenues.

I wish we could at least elimate 2 of those. That would narrow it down and concentrate the enquiry better.
 
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Out of curiosity - I did a quick Google search on: Amarillo train hopping. Just a quick glance at the results tells me there's a pretty active culture for this type of activity there. I think it's quite possible that she, at some point (on a lunch break, perhaps?), talked to a person (or people) who were active train hoppers. She could easily have used the rail lines to make her way to points unknown going East or West.
 
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Yeah that's not what I was envisioning when I think 'poncho'. She would appear Male to any possible bad guy looking for a random female so that is a positive, IMO. She's definitely walking with a destination in mind. I wonder if LE have asked any fast food joints in the area to review their tapes?

I don’t know if it’s definitely a positive. Bad guys who hunt and hurt women are sometimes even more violent to gender non-conforming women and lesbians. Their very existence is seen as a direct attack on their fragile male egos.
 
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@swanniee11 @annpats @jellybean96 I missed this too!
could someone explain this, or at least tip us in the correct direction to look? TIA :)
This is where it was mentioned (BBM). Original post might have been deleted because it was posted before verification.
Very clear video with captions. Do y’all see that man at the very end walking in her direction at the back of the parking lot? I wonder if this is the man the coworkers thought they saw her with (hugging or possible struggle per Brianna’s sister).
 
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I don’t know if it’s definitely a positive. Bad guys who hunt and hurt women are sometimes even more violent to gender non-confirming women and lesbians. Their very existence is seen as a direct attack on their fragile male egos.
BBM

DEFINITELY! some people have extremely fragile egos and seeing someone "other" can be so confusing and angering, especially if said person is hyper insecure in their own masculinity, taught to be homophobic, or has internalized hatred for themselves for having queer feelings and lash out at other people who dare to be themselves when they cannot. So complicated, and patriarchy/homophobia to blame.

As a mostly feminine presenting person, I get hit on all the time, but its pretty light and fleeting.
On the other hand, my very clearly gay/masculine partner gets hit on less BUT when she does, it gets really creepy! Men have followed her around and harassed her, tell her she's pretty and needs a man.. perceiving her gay presentation is a pre-rejection and they now have the challenge of turning her or teaching her a lesson or something, its misogyny and hate rolled into one strange set of interactions that proves purely terrifying.
MOO
 
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I don’t know if it’s definitely a positive. Bad guys who hunt and hurt women are sometimes even more violent to gender non-confirming women and lesbians. Their very existence is seen as a direct attack on their fragile male egos.

Brandon Teena. Makes my blood boil.
 
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BBM

DEFINITELY! some people have extremely fragile egos and seeing someone "other" can be so confusing and angering, especially if said person is hyper insecure in their own masculinity, taught to be homophobic, or has internalized hatred for themselves for having queer feelings and lash out at other people who dare to be themselves when they cannot. So complicated, and patriarchy/homophobia to blame.

As a mostly feminine presenting person, I get hit on all the time, but its pretty light and fleeting.
On the other hand, my very clearly gay/masculine partner gets hit on less BUT when she does, it gets really creepy! Men have followed her around and harassed her, tell her she's pretty and needs a man.. perceiving her gay presentation is a pre-rejection and they now have the challenge of turning her or teaching her a lesson or something, its misogyny and hate rolled into one strange set of interactions that proves purely terrifying.
MOO

I hear ya. I have many friends like you and your partner who have all experienced exactly the same thing. A feminine woman with a more masculine presenting partner is a particular trigger for some of them - like that masculine presenting partner is the only thing in the way of them being able to get with that feminine woman. They don’t look at, treat or react to hetero male partners like that at all. It’s so frightening.
 
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Questions i'd like to know:
How often did SO meet her on her break?
Were they currently in a 'not so good' place as a couple?
Did they have an argument before she left for work?
Did SO often text the ILYSMucchhhhh type messages or was it reversed?

The ILY response seems just a more 'non emotional' response to the one she got. Something seems 'off'. I'd like to know more about how she was at work that shift and what, if anything, transpired right before it.
 

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