GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 Aug 2014 - Enrique Arochi kidnapping trial #3

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  • #881
Here's my thing--evidence of her bodily fluids in the trunk--assault and kidnapping.or did she puke in his trunk? I mean? Do we KNOW for sure she was crammed in that trunk? I want to believe. Help me believe that there is no other reasonable explanation.

I don't think she puked on his trunk. It wasn't on the outside and if she had puked on it in the garage there would be spots by the car I'm sure
 
  • #882
What other explanation could there be? Especially when you consider EA's statements that he didn't walk with her all the way to car/parked in a different garage/CM was never in his car.

He lied Bc of drugs. She puked. ODed. He panicked.

I don't know. I'm just saying there are a lot of reasons why people lie. I need to know she was actually in that trunk. Not just that she may have puked in that trunk. I mean, I do believe she was, but I want to everyone to see she was. Make sense?
 
  • #883
Plano Star Courier ‏@planonewspaper 37s37 seconds ago
Staub: "It is in no way anywhere near what you would call touch DNA. It's about six drops of blood's worth of DNA." #arochitrial

L.P. Phillips ‏@lpphillips 56s56 seconds ago Manhattan, NY
Staub: Part of his conclusion was because of the large amount of DNA. 6 blood drops worth #arochitrial

Plano Star Courier ‏@planonewspaper 1m1 minute ago
Staub cites research stating cleaning materials can lead to false negatives when testing for blood #arochitrial

Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 2m2 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Staub:Cleaning supplies can make a blood test come up negative even though blood was there & DNA was extracted from it. #ArochiTrial @NBCDFW

Valerie WigglesworthVerified account ‏@vlwigg 53s53 seconds ago
Staub testifies amount of DNA retrieved from swab from edge of Camaro's trunk opening consistent with about 6 drops of blood #arochitrial
 
  • #884
I don't think she puked on his trunk. It wasn't on the outside and if she had puked on it in the garage there would be spots by the car I'm sure

IN his trunk. They could have been doing drugs and had the trunk open for their rigs. Who knows?
 
  • #885
What other explanation could there be? Especially when you consider EA's statements that he didn't walk with her all the way to car/parked in a different garage/CM was never in his car.

His attorney doesn't seem to have come up with a reasonable explanation in 2 years either.
 
  • #886
From vvw:

Staub testifies amount of DNA retrieved from swab from edge of Camaro's trunk opening consistent with about 6 drops of blood #arochitrial
 
  • #887
His attorney doesn't seem to have come up with a reasonable explanation in 2 years either.

Right, and it's a good bet that EA won't get on the stand and offer an alternate explanation.
 
  • #888
Six drops seems like a bit, especially if the car had been cleaned.

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  • #889
Ok. 6 drops of blood. That's not quite the amount I pictured, but ok...
 
  • #890
Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 2m2 minutes ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: says he's making conclusions based on other lab results @FOX4 #arochitrial

Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 2m2 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Staub: It was an extremely high amount of DNA...Nowhere near what you get from touch. Probably 6 drops of blood’s worth of DNA #ArochiTrial

L.P. Phillips ‏@lpphillips 3m3 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Fortenberry done. Defense now questioning. #arochitrial
 
  • #891
Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 1m1 minute ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: defense pointing out Staub works for city of Plano which is not accredited in DNA analysts @FOX4 #arochitrial
 
  • #892
He lied Bc of drugs. She puked. ODed. He panicked.

I don't know. I'm just saying there are a lot of reasons why people lie. I need to know she was actually in that trunk. Not just that she may have puked in that trunk. I mean, I do believe she was, but I want to everyone to see she was. Make sense?

I just don't think that's a reasonable inference. There's no evidence at all to suggest that. I think the ONLY reasonable conclusion that can be made is she was in the trunk.
 
  • #893
Plano Star Courier ‏@planonewspaper 37s37 seconds ago
Staub: "It is in no way anywhere near what you would call touch DNA. It's about six drops of blood's worth of DNA." #arochitrial

L.P. Phillips ‏@lpphillips 56s56 seconds ago Manhattan, NY
Staub: Part of his conclusion was because of the large amount of DNA. 6 blood drops worth #arochitrial

Plano Star Courier ‏@planonewspaper 1m1 minute ago
Staub cites research stating cleaning materials can lead to false negatives when testing for blood #arochitrial

Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 2m2 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Staub:Cleaning supplies can make a blood test come up negative even though blood was there & DNA was extracted from it. #ArochiTrial @NBCDFW

Valerie WigglesworthVerified account ‏@vlwigg 53s53 seconds ago
Staub testifies amount of DNA retrieved from swab from edge of Camaro's trunk opening consistent with about 6 drops of blood #arochitrial

Is the jury back in hearing this?
 
  • #894
L.P. Phillips ‏@lpphillips 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY
Staub sticking to his guns, the DNA on the trunk mat and the trunk weatherstripping is blood. #arochitrial

Plano Star Courier ‏@planonewspaper 1m1 minute ago
"Blood would be the best source for that much DNA." - Staub, in reaction to defense questioning #arochitrial
 
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Ok. 6 drops of blood. That's not quite the amount I pictured, but ok...

LOL. It's way more than I thought they found, with all the talk of trillionth of picograms and such
 
  • #897
Here's my thing--evidence of her bodily fluids in the trunk--assault and kidnapping.or did she puke in his trunk? I mean? Do we KNOW for sure she was crammed in that trunk? I want to believe. Help me believe that there is no other reasonable explanation.

This is where I am, Heather. For whatever reason, I'm thinking that if she was in the trunk for an extended period of time, there would be more/stronger DNA evidence there, whether it is blood or saliva.

However, with puke, I go with maybe she puked in his car, he had a towel, blanket or whatever that he cleaned up with, then threw it in the back of the car after he let her out or took her to HF or whomever HF texted to pick her up.

NOTE: Not that I think that's what happened. Just going down the list of things that might be presented by the defense to the jury when all is said and done. I still think they find him guilty. I just think all of us were expecting the DNA evidence to be stronger...

...either that or EA has a really good defense team that is good at mucking up the works! That's entirely possible. And, in the end, that's their job.

On thing is for sure, if he is convicted, it can't be overturned on the common assertion that his attorneys didn't provide a vigorous enough defense. Seems to me that they are certainly giving a vigorous defense...which, in my opinion, will make an appeal less likely to succeed.

What possible bases has prosecution not covered that the defense just let go by? None that I can see, so far. This would be an excellent case for young attorneys or law students hoping to go into criminal defense or prosecution to observe.
 
  • #898
Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 1m1 minute ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: says a lot of DNA on weather stripping & is "probably blood" - one of best sources @FOX4 #arochitrial


Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY
For 2 spots on trunk mat Staub says: "I think it is blood because it gave a Blue Star positive result & had human DNA" #ArochiTrial @NBCDFW

Valerie WigglesworthVerified account ‏@vlwigg 1m1 minute ago
Staub testifying that because trunk mat reacted to Blue Star and those areas had identifiable DNA, he believes it's from blood #arochitrial


Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 1m1 minute ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: regarding mat believes DNA bc faint blue star reaction & strong DNA profile @FOX4 #ArochiTrial
 
  • #899
Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY
Testing was done in that order bc finding a DNA profile was the top priority. After that was found, went back to look for blood #ArochiTrial

Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 2m2 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Bode labs consumed cotton on swab in developing DNA profile. Blood test done from stick of swab That’s reverse order from usual.#ArochiTrial
 
  • #900
Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 1m1 minute ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: says a lot of DNA on weather stripping & is "probably blood" - one of best sources @FOX4 #arochitrial


Alice Barr ‏@AliceBarrNBC5 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY
For 2 spots on trunk mat Staub says: "I think it is blood because it gave a Blue Star positive result & had human DNA" #ArochiTrial @NBCDFW

Valerie WigglesworthVerified account ‏@vlwigg 1m1 minute ago
Staub testifying that because trunk mat reacted to Blue Star and those areas had identifiable DNA, he believes it's from blood #arochitrial


Natalie Solis ‏@Fox4Natalie 1m1 minute ago McKinney, TX
Staub on cross: regarding mat believes DNA bc faint blue star reaction & strong DNA profile @FOX4 #ArochiTrial

That's actually a very good point. What are the chances her DNA would be where the blue star reacted and it NOT be blood?
 
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