GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

[txyorkiemom]

Thanks for clarification. I totally agree the father and family I believe have been very patient and I don't know any of the circumstances surrounding him asking but in reality why does it matter? He was the very last person seen with your daughter and her dad and family just want answers. I doubt he went over there trying to cause s ruckus or one would have ensued and there would have been no picketing. He was probably simply asking and I too agree based on his body mannerisms, the father seems extremely genuine and kind. They all do and regardless of some of the circumstances of some of the friends Christina associated with and what they were involved with that we're possibly illegal should in no way be the reflection of who this family is and what their about. I think every family in America has some dysfunction to a slight degree in a variety of ways and we probably all have someone we know close to us who have been there and we still love them as that what family is all about. There is absolutely no proof from what I've seen indicating Christina has ever been involved with anything illegal and just because you associate with those who do, do not mean you also do. Same Scenario as a wife beater! Just because the wife is being beat does it indicate she's beating others but she stays with the beater because she loves him. It's not always easy leaving people and the longer you stay, the more involved you become, the more dangerous it can get and the more you become at risk for anything like being in the wrong place at the right time!

#comehomenina

BBM

It does matter ..since this issue has been made public ..IMO the public has a right to know and would like to know the circumstances and hear BOTH perspectives.. hearing only 1 version of what the thinking is on one side does not give a full,accurate and complete picture.
When we sleuth we have to be objective as well and look at everything.

 

[Doj1234]

So you talked to him a few weeks ago? When did the picketing actually start then?

Ugh, I guess that it was last weekend. Seems longer to me, lol. Geez, does it matter really? Not exactly breaking news that I think that he is calm and respectful.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

BBM

It does matter ..since this issue has been made public ..IMO the public has a right to know and would like to know the circumstances and hear BOTH perspectives.. hearing only 1 version of what the thinking is on one side does not give a full,accurate and complete picture.
When we sleuth we have to be objective as well and look at everything.

But they are the ones choosing not to tell their side.

 

[Bootsctr]

Ugh, I guess that it was last weekend. Seems longer to me, lol. Geez, does it matter really? Not exactly breaking news that I think that he is calm and respectful.

Can you imagine how long the neighborhood feels the picketing has been going on? The longer the picketing drags out the more people become involved. Pretty soon you have people bringing their babies to the picketing and their pets and someone ends up getting in a scuffle and then hurt.

 

[txyorkiemom]

But they are the ones choosing not to tell their side.

That is why I made it very clear I would like to see a statement from the Witness's side/Perspective ...
But obviously the Attorney of said Witness's is not letting any one talk as of yet.. can not really say they/he are/is choosing ..if in fact the ATTORNEY is in control.
JMO

 

[Bootsctr]

But they are the ones choosing not to tell their side.

Everyone has told their side of the story to PPD. PPD has said everyone is cooperating. PPD says they have no evidence a crime took place. PPD has not ruled anyone out.

I think the walker's lawyer told him not to say anything to anyone about his statement to PPD regarding that night. Why pay money to a lawyer and not take his advice? The lawyer probably said something to the effect of "you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, so you might as well be damned and don't speak to the public." He's offering himself up to be tried in the court of public opinion as soon as he puts anything out there.

 

[Bootsctr]

That is why I made it very clear I would like to see a statement from the Witness's side/Perspective ...
But obviously the Attorney of said Witness's is not letting any one talk as of yet.. can not really say they/he are/is choosing ..if in fact the ATTORNEY is in control.
JMO

Yes, I absolutely agree. The attorney is in control. It would have probably been in the BF's best interest to have gotten a lawyer the minute he realized he didn't report Christina missing for 4 days. He probably should have never spoken on camera. I think a lawyer would have advised him against it or at least been present during the television interview. A good defense attorney will look at this case and see immediately where the cracks are and they will offer up a very good reasonable doubt if indeed this case ever makes it to trial.

 

[cindyrella7767]

Can you imagine how long the neighborhood feels the picketing has been going on? The longer the picketing drags out the more people become involved. Pretty soon you have people bringing their babies to the picketing and their pets and someone ends up getting in a scuffle and then hurt.

From what I understand it was two days back to back but not full days. I was hoping to go and the timeframe I saw it started was around 10 am last Saturday and again same time Sunday I can't confirm how late anyone stayed since I could not make it

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

That is why I made it very clear I would like to see a statement from the Witness's side/Perspective ...
But obviously the Attorney of said Witness's is not letting any one talk as of yet.. can not really say they/he are/is choosing ..if in fact the ATTORNEY is in control.
JMO

At the least they could say we would like to speak about this matter, but our attorney has advised us not to speak at this time. JMO.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

Everyone has told their side of the story to PPD. PPD has said everyone is cooperating. PPD says they have no evidence a crime took place. PPD has not ruled anyone out.

I think the walker's lawyer told him not to say anything to anyone about his statement to PPD regarding that night. Why pay money to a lawyer and not take his advice? The lawyer probably said something to the effect of "you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, so you might as well be damned and don't speak to the public." He's offering himself up to be tried in the court of public opinion as soon as he puts anything out there.

I do agree with that.

 

[cindyrella7767]

BBM

It does matter ..since this issue has been made public ..IMO the public has a right to know and would like to know the circumstances and hear BOTH perspectives.. hearing only 1 version of what the thinking is on one side does not give a full,accurate and complete picture.
When we sleuth we have to be objective as well and look at everything.

I don't mean that we shouldn't be objective but if it were your daughter how would you approach the last known person when your desperate? In the grand scheme regardless if EA is innocent this father wants to see him eye to eye and ask and sure the lawyer said don't speak but doesn't mean father can't ask. I think he did what any other normal father would do, go to the one person who you believe may hold the key or know something and if the stories changed as stated and he wanted a clarification maybe hoping the kid would be willing to talk to him. No I wasn't there no I have no clue what was said, but if my son were the last to see someone I would be telling him to give an interview to clear himself of any questions others would have, but since obviously that's not happening it really assures or makes me feel that EA knows something. Do I think he hurt her, no clue, how's that for objective. I think the longer he doesn't talk the more bad it makes him look for himself without any suspicions the family have possibly thrown out there by standing on city public walks asking. All because he was unwilling to volunteer the information as a typical individual would!

 

[CookieM]

Sometimes the reports are saying evening and some are saying morning
like this one : http://cw33.com/2014/10/20/mystery-m...s-from-friend/
Plano PD says they don’t have the evidence that makes this a criminal case.

“All the people that were with Christina that evening, we’ve talked to. Some of them, we’ve talked to multiple times. We haven’t cleared anyone that was with her that evening,” PIO David Tilley said.

Well that would be Friday .... So are they saying she disappeared on the 29th now??

Also who all was she with on Friday evening??

Can someone confirm this at all.... was it reported IIRC that HF Initially stated that CM went out shopping?? Or did he change his story too???
ALL JMO

Maybe they mean some friends were with her Friday evening and another group after midnight?

 

[cindyrella7767]

At the least they could say we would like to speak about this matter, but our attorney has advised us not to speak at this time. JMO.

BIngo! Exactly! Why hide! Why not offer/volunteer talking to family with sincerity? It's really THAT simple but they didn't so now yes most of the public is going to question the reasoning behind it leaving it to be less objective for most. If you want people to be objective and see your truth, don't hide behind a lawyer, have your lawyer present and talk to the family already.

 

[Bootsctr]

Sometimes the reports are saying evening and some are saying morning
like this one : http://cw33.com/2014/10/20/mystery-m...s-from-friend/
Plano PD says they don’t have the evidence that makes this a criminal case.

“All the people that were with Christina that evening, we’ve talked to. Some of them, we’ve talked to multiple times. We haven’t cleared anyone that was with her that evening,” PIO David Tilley said.

Well that would be Friday .... So are they saying she disappeared on the 29th now??

Also who all was she with on Friday evening??

Can someone confirm this at all.... was it reported IIRC that HF Initially stated that CM went out shopping?? Or did he change his story too??? ALL JMO

I recall HF's original story being that Christina went shopping that Friday night. I'll see if I can dig up a link... so many days have passed. I felt like he was being helped to construct a story after he said that about Christina going shopping.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

You are welcome. I didn't mean for my comment to come across that way and if that is the way it was taken then I apologize. I am a friend of the family and it is upsetting at times to read some of the things that are said on this site when referring to Christina and her family. They are doing all they can to bring their family member home. I am a little closer to the situation than most and maybe I let my emotions get the best of me.

I joined to maybe get ideas, or theories, or maybe some sort of information to help my friend bring her child home. I understand the picketing was concerning to some and I get that as well. I just think that sometimes we should all step back for just a second and put ourselves in their shoes. That is all. It is easy to pick apart what they do or don't do because you are not in their situation. And I hope none of you ever are. Also remember that they may visit this site, you never know. How do we think they would feel if they read some of this?

My comments were out of defense, for my friend. I could actually add a lot to this group as I am closer than most of you to what is going on. I have been hesitant to do that because I feel as if I will be attacked like a lot of others that have stuck up for the family. To me, that is concerning.

My heart is in the right place, I know that, and so does the family. Lots of you have worked hard to make sense of all of this and I commend you for that. I think this is all a whole lot deeper than anyone imagines. We will find Christina, we are sure of that. It may not be today, although that would be awesome, but we will find Christina. #FINDCHRISTINA #COMEHOMENINA #CHRISTINAMORRIS

Are you aware that if you contact a moderator, you can become a verified insider? As a verified insider, any info you were able to share with us would be considered highly credible. From what I've seen, verified insiders are treated very respectfully here. Since we all care so much about Christina and want to help find her, it would be really helpful for us if someone was occasionally able to help us with our questions. Of course it's understood that a lot of info is kept confidential and not all questions can be answered. Please consider if this would be something you are comfortable doing!

I know there is a link on the website but I'm posting via tapatalk app and don't have it handy. If you would like to have it, I know someone could direct you to it!

I'm sure you probably already are, but please pass along our hugs and encouragement to Christina's family.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks for your apology and explanation. I can understand that it must be difficult to read some of the theories that have been suggested here, but I really hope you do believe that we do very much want to find Christina and help solve this mystery for her family. I also hope that you can see that since most of us on WS are not directly connected to the family or friends as you are, we can look at every avenue objectively. The only analogy I can think of is a doctor setting a broken arm: the doctor knows that it might cause pain to set the broken arm in place, but he has to put that aside and just do it. I doubt a parent could set their own kid's arm because they wouldn't want to cause pain, but the doctor, while still being concerned for the patient, does it so the broken arm can heal properly.
I know that's a weird analogy, but it's the only one I can think of.

A good analogy. Let me use your post to jump off for a minute.

We are here to discuss possibilities of what happened to the missing and to determine reasonable paths to follow. I actually prefer not having family or closely related people discussing these things because it can be too difficult and they should not be worried about theories/think tank bantering/out of the box ideas. That is what we do. We are here to objectively dig into the facts, rumors, and speculation then try to figure out something...anything...to bring the missing home like Christina who seemingly vanished into thin air. There are so many possibilities and we explore them as best we can. It isn't personal for most of us and we try not to let it become personal.

We do get into areas not favoring a victim or family at times. If a victim is discussed only the way the family wants them portrayed then it lessens the chance of uncovering the real reason for why a victim is gone. We ask the tough questions to discover their truth. Often, what we find has happened is a direct result of the lives they led put them in bad situations. Others were in the wrong place at the wrong time. We won't know until we look at all the facts and evaluate what else factors into a case.

About the picketing situation: I have seen similar on other cases and the problems associated their tunnel vision. When a family sets their site on one person and they begin a campaign of attack, it soon turns into, "If you are not with us...you are against us" scenario. It alienates people. If people who wanted to help or possibly had information were taken aback by the protests, they could walk away. Not trying to hurt the family, but show how it looks to me and undoubtedly to many others out there. Missteps can cost valuable information and resources as people shy away from cases.

We all have one goal to bring Christina home to her family.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Maybe they mean some friends were with her Friday evening and another group after midnight?

Seems logical then that the Group from Friday needs to be determined as well as their associations
and the Group from Saturday needs to be determined as well as their associations
JMO ~

 

[txyorkiemom]

A good analogy. Let me use your post to jump off for a minute.

We are here to discuss possibilities of what happened to the missing and to determine reasonable paths to follow. I actually prefer not having family or closely related people discussing these things because it can be too difficult and they should not be worried about theories/think tank bantering/out of the box ideas. That is what we do. We are here to objectively dig into the facts, rumors, and speculation then try to figure out something...anything...to bring the missing home like Christina who seemingly vanished into thin air. There are so many possibilities and we explore them as best we can. It isn't personal for most of us and we try not to let it become personal.

We do get into areas not favoring a victim or family at times. If a victim is discussed only the way the family wants them portrayed then it lessens the chance of uncovering the real reason for why a victim is gone. We ask the tough questions to discover their truth. Often, what we find has happened is a direct result of the lives they led put them in bad situations. Others were in the wrong place at the wrong time. We won't know until we look at all the facts and evaluate what else factors into a case.

About the picketing situation: I have seen similar on other cases and the problems associated their tunnel vision. When a family sets their site on one person and they begin a campaign of attack, it soon turns into if you are "not with us...you are against us" scenario. It alienates people. If people who wanted to help or possibly had information were taken aback by the protests, they could walk away. Not trying to hurt the family, but show how it looks to me and undoubtedly to many others out there. Missteps can cost valuable information and resources as people shy away from cases.

We all have one goal to bring Christina home to her family.

1000% Seriously !!!
Beautiful Post !!!

 

[CrystalAnn]

A good analogy. Let me use your post to jump off for a minute.

We are here to discuss possibilities of what happened to the missing and to determine reasonable paths to follow. I actually prefer not having family or closely related people discussing these things because it can be too difficult and they should not be worried about theories/think tank bantering/out of the box ideas. That is what we do. We are here to objectively dig into the facts, rumors, and speculation then try to figure out something...anything...to bring the missing home like Christina who seemingly vanished into thin air. There are so many possibilities and we explore them as best we can. It isn't personal for most of us and we try not to let it become personal.

We do get into areas not favoring a victim or family at times. If a victim is discussed only the way the family wants them portrayed then it lessens the chance of uncovering the real reason for why a victim is gone. We ask the tough questions to discover their truth. Often, what we find has happened is a direct result of the lives they led put them in bad situations. Others were in the wrong place at the wrong time. We won't know until we look at all the facts and evaluate what else factors into a case.

About the picketing situation: I have seen similar on other cases and the problems associated their tunnel vision. When a family sets their site on one person and they begin a campaign of attack, it soon turns into, "If you are not with us...you are against us" scenario. It alienates people. If people who wanted to help or possibly had information were taken aback by the protests, they could walk away. Not trying to hurt the family, but show how it looks to me and undoubtedly to many others out there. Missteps can cost valuable information and resources as people shy away from cases.

We all have one goal to bring Christina home to her family.

Let me get this straight. You would prefer not to have family or people who actually know the victim here? Like, WHAT?? So you would just prefer to make things up and come up with your own ideas out of left field than listen and discuss the case with some one who actually knows the person and has FACTS to give you. I would gladly welcome any one who knows Christina personally to help us get to know her, and give us some inside facts and then maybe bounce some ideas off of FACTS!

Please, JMOM, become an insider, some of us would really love your insight.

 

[JMOM]

If I were them I would have contacted the family as soon as I found out my son was the last one seen with their daughter who is missing. But that's just me. And of course that is JMO

At the least they could say we would like to speak about this matter, but our attorney has advised us not to speak at this time. JMO.