GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

[brado]

I get stuck between thinking a) Christina went off the grid because she was upset that her bf (HF) started messing with someone else. 2) somebody TOOK her off the grid because she started messing with someone else. 3) someone wanted to help her "get"off the grid because a) they didn't want her to be so influential to their family (or draw attention)
b) they wanted to see if they could do it.
My "c)" in this scenario is that Christina was just hanging, being a 23yo wanting to be with friends. Some she knew well, some she didn't. She went out to have fun. She did.
I get stuck with what happened next. (Oh wait, that's the whole problem, huh?)

I bolded that.

I think it would be pretty difficult to go off the grid without any pre-planning, no use of credit cards or ATM withdrawals and without a vehicle. In that scenario, how did she get out of the parking garage without being seen on any of the cameras? I can only think of one way, and that would be in one of the cars parked near her.

 

[CookieM]

I saw the news about the guy from Lewisville and because I'm fairly certain this was not a random abduction I dismissed it but it's always possible IF walker hadn't changed story I would still be considering random could be the case.

Can ANYone provide a link where LE states that he changed his story??? I keep asking but no one has responded. I'm not sure in which statement from LE you guys are getting this? PPD would be the only ones who would know what he stated to them when questioned, but everything I read says they questioned him, he was cooperative, and he's not a POI. If he changed his story to LE in any significant way, that would raise red flags to LE, in my opinion. I'd like to read this info for myself, so please provide a link.

 

[CuriousinNY]

I think if my child were missing and the person believed to have seen her last didn't want to talk to me, I would also try anything to get that person to talk to me. Hope is all that remains for the parents. There is no evidence of a crime but your baby is gone. I would want to explore every avenue. When are they supposed to give up hope and return to their normal lives? I would want to turn over every rock. Guilt would consume me if I left without having done everything in my power to find the child I loved.

I believe the walker should have an attorney because something serious has happened but why cant he and his attorney sit and talk with the parents? Or have the parents submit a list of questions they would like asked. The walker and his attorney could prepare the answers.

With each passing day, I am sure the parents are desperate for any new information. I sympathize with them.

 

[CookieM]

My thoughts on possible reasons for the clothing changes. She arrived in her outfit to go out with her friends. After going to the apartment or when she went out to the drive thru for food, knowing she was spending the night, she changed into comfortable sleeping clothes. Then she decides she needs to go home and get her dog, but also know she has to be at work, she borrows some clothes that are work appropriate. In one of the MSM articles (IIRC), her mom made a statement about her staying at the apartment and she said I think she planned on staying over, she had already changed her clothes (I am paraphasing). I think since she changed so many times that her friends saw her in different outfits at different times. I know if someone asked me what my friend wore 4 days before, I could not tell them accurately.

I don't believe she borrowed clothes for work. What I recall was that she borrowed a large tshirt to sleep in. It was said a number of times that the shirt was so large on her because the friend she borrowed it from is a much larger gal than Christina. Dad said it was so large that it hung down below her knees (which was to explain why it looked like a dress in the garage video.) In my opinion, I dont think CM would have been able to share work appropriate clothes with her friend since the friend wore a much larger size than she did.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Can ANYone provide a link where LE states that he changed his story??? I keep asking but no one has responded. I'm not sure in which statement from LE you guys are getting this? PPD would be the only ones who would know what he stated to them when questioned, but everything I read says they questioned him, he was cooperative, and he's not a POI. If he changed his story to LE in any significant way, that would raise red flags to LE, in my opinion. I'd like to read this info for myself, so please provide a link.

LE has NEVER stated that he changed his story. On the contrary, LE has said time and time again that they have spoken to him and he is cooperative and NOT a suspect or POI. HTH.

 

[CookieM]

Well JMO
first of all why would she sleep there if she had to be at work It was almost 4 am.
I don't believe the go home to get her dog story I think that was just an excuse to leave.
the numerous calls to HF the cant find my keys leave the door open....
Maybe someone was after HF and to get to him they go thru her?

I think the problems are back at home....
He was off the grid non communicato with her ...
I also think there is another phone....

Well you and I are thinking along the same lines!

 

[Agent.Veritas]

More questions-- not necessarily hoping for anyone to provide direct answers, just hoping it might jog a new thought or theory...

Background info questions:
Topic: high-end purses for sale

How and when did she originally acquire these?

Were only a portion of the purses placed for sale, and therefore she has additional which she routinely uses?

If there are additional ones that she kept, have they been accounted for and are they still with her other belongings?

Why was someone else's phone number provided in the comments to set up the sale?

Is providing phone numbers in the comments customary and consistent with the site's TOS?

What eventually happened to the purses? Were they sold?

How many transactions passed through her sales account, and what was the range in dates?

Does the income generated (if any) match any dates/amounts of transactions in her bank account records?

Is there any reason to believe someone besides Christina was orchestrating these transactions, and if so, was Christina aware of it?

Is this somehow connected to other unclear events and/or ultimately her disappearance?

Background info questions:
Topic: status of bank account(s)
Initial news reports indicated that her bank accounts--plural-- reflected no activity since the disappearance.

How many bank accounts did she have?

Were they individual or joint?

If joint, does that change the interpretation of "no activity"? (And if it doesn't, would a co-owner of funds be able to sustain themselves without accessing those funds?)

Were certain transactions automated, like paycheck deposit and expense withdrawals, such as car insurance? (If so, where do these components fit into "no activity"?)

Was the amount in the accounts and the most recent transactions consistent with her spending habits throughout the year and/or of the same time period of the previous year?

Did she have any commercial debt, such as credit cards? Had she recently applied for any new lines of credit?

Were there any loans--formal or informal--associated with Trust None Streetwear?

 

[CookieM]

I bolded that.

I think it would be pretty difficult to go off the grid without any pre-planning, no use of credit cards or ATM withdrawals and without a vehicle. In that scenario, how did she get out of the parking garage without being seen on any of the cameras? I can only think of one way, and that would be in one of the cars parked near her.

... One of the cars in the garage that can not be linked to anyone questioned. Because if they saw a car go out and if it belonged to one of her friends, I believe LE would question them. I do not believe the video was too grainy to ID the vehicles. LE stated later that they could not release video because of evidentiary reasons. I think a car left the garage and she was in it but it wasn't hers and it wasn't the walker's.

 

[alterholic]

Going back to the beginning, can someone help me out on the details of this case?

We know she was seen walking with EA wearing a skirt and hat. However, there was a report that she was last seen wearing shorts.

To me, that says there is missing time between that video footage and when she was last seen.

My question centers around her car. We know it was in the garage four days later - do we have any definitive answer as to whether it left and came back at any point in those missing days?

IE could she have gone somewhere by her own will, had something happen off-site, and have someone drop the car back off later?

I'm not sure what the camera layout is in that garage - I may be willing to go look if it would help us out, but the problem is just that we're missing that time with the change in clothes. WHO said she was last in shorts and where did the change occur that police can't put two and two together?

*Please correct me if I missed details. I've been trying to keep up but there's been a lot going on.

 

[Le Singe]

It was cheese, wasn't it. I heard about that in a Jay-Z song once.

girl scout cookies

 

[CuriousinNY]

I don't believe she borrowed clothes for work. What I recall was that she borrowed a large tshirt to sleep in. It was said a number of times that the shirt was so large on her because the friend she borrowed it from is a much larger gal than Christina. Dad said it was so large that it hung down below her knees (which was to explain why it looked like a dress in the garage video.) In my opinion, I dont think CM would have been able to share work appropriate clothes with her friend since the friend wore a much larger size than she did.

I do remember that t-shirt comment about it being so long. I cant remember where I saw it though. You may be right about not being able to share clothes with her friends. It seemed clear to me she had a skirt on in the garage video (but I realize nothing is clear in this saga). I was just grasping at straws to come up with an idea of why she had wardrobe changes.

 

[CuriousinNY]

I also do not believe her sole purpose was to leave to get her dog. I think she told her girlfriends all the terrible things about her relationship with her boyfriend (that he was cheating and such). I am sure her friends would say you are better off without him, your a beautiful girl...yada, yada. Now she is convinced she wants to go home to her boyfriend and has to give her friends a good reason why she wants to go home. The best thing she can come up with is going to get her dog. I think her friends would sympathize with the dog excuse. All my opinion, no facts. (I believe whatever happened did so in the parking ramp, again just a feeling).

 

[Doj1234]

If we are relying on statements from LE to push this discussion forward.... We have nothing to discuss.
A missing person and a blank, empty look with maybe 'I dunno' as the statement.

 

[Le Singe]

I know if someone asked me what my friend wore 4 days before, I could not tell them accurately.

It's funny because i was thinking about this the other day and I was all like "no way i would remember that no question about it" so i decide to test myself. I had been to a small social gathering 4 or or five days previously and I tried to remember what people were wearing and I couldn't do it at all with any confidence. I even had trouble remembering exactly who had been there and who had not. So I think your statement is very true but until I tested myself I would not have agreed with it.

 

[Le Singe]

Can ANYone provide a link where LE states that he changed his story??? I keep asking but no one has responded. I'm not sure in which statement from LE you guys are getting this? PPD would be the only ones who would know what he stated to them when questioned, but everything I read says they questioned him, he was cooperative, and he's not a POI. If he changed his story to LE in any significant way, that would raise red flags to LE, in my opinion. I'd like to read this info for myself, so please provide a link.

LE has not opined on that publicly by CM mom was directly quoted in a boarderline MSM article thusly:

.... Christina's mother, Jonni McElroy says it felt empowering to finally call him out. She says he initially lied about walking Christina to the parking garage. "He told police they parted ways at the sidewalk, but we know for a fact that wasn't true," McElroy says. "When the video tape came out, he changed his story."

source: http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/city-life/10-20-14-missing-woman-christina-morris-reward-suspects/

People are reading between the lines and assuming that LE told her that (probably a pretty good assumption) but it has NOT been confirmed that LE stated that.

 

[Le Singe]

I think if my child were missing and the person believed to have seen her last didn't want to talk to me, I would also try anything to get that person to talk to me. Hope is all that remains for the parents. There is no evidence of a crime but your baby is gone. I would want to explore every avenue. When are they supposed to give up hope and return to their normal lives? I would want to turn over every rock. Guilt would consume me if I left without having done everything in my power to find the child I loved.

I believe the walker should have an attorney because something serious has happened but why cant he and his attorney sit and talk with the parents? Or have the parents submit a list of questions they would like asked. The walker and his attorney could prepare the answers.

With each passing day, I am sure the parents are desperate for any new information. I sympathize with them.

To me the logical answer to this, which is in line with the feeling I get from things is: The family doesn't want general information they are beyond wanting information, they are just saying that because legally the can't say anymore. They want statement to strictly compare with his previous statements to look for inconsistencies. A lawyer that isn't an idiot is going to know this so there is no way they would do that. Remember the guy has talked to LE multiple times so its not like he hasn't told his version of events (obviously just because its the version he told doesn't mean it's true or not true we have no way of knowing that). So I think we can say pretty much for certain that he is in one of two situations:

1. He's truthfully told everything he knows to LE and he has no information that would help LE or the family. OR
2. He knows more because he is responsible for or complicit in a very serious crime being committed that CM is the victim of.

I have no idea which it is but i'm sure its one or the other and in either of these situations it makes no sense from him to give any further statements.

 

[Eileen730]

LE has not opined on that publicly by CM mom was directly quoted in a boarderline MSM article thusly:



source: http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/city-life/10-20-14-missing-woman-christina-morris-reward-suspects/

People are reading between the lines and assuming that LE told her that (probably a pretty good assumption) but it has NOT been confirmed that LE stated that.

I agree but I feel its possible her mom is getting the info from Christinas friends that are talking amongst themselves.
so and so said this and then he said that.....
On FB they said LE has not shared info and LE has said they wont share info.
so where is it coming from.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I am seeing 2 PPD Officers both state Morris and her friend parked on opposite sides of the garage and parted ways after the vid.
I also see per MSM report PPD is interviewing people connected to her.
They also had been at a "friends apartment hanging out"

Q. Has the name of the Apartment Renter been released?
Q What type of activity was going on inside that apartment?
Q. Who was specifically inside that apartment?
Q. Was there any one at that location that was not invited or asked to leave??

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/...known-image-of-missing-fort-worth-woman.html/
Police spokeswoman Heather Bowden said Morris and her friend parked on opposite sides of the garage and parted ways shortly after this video was taken.

This is the last known footage of Morris prior to her disappearance, police say. She hasn’t been seen or heard from since.

Police are still tracking leads and interviewing people connected to her. Anyone with information about Morris’ whereabouts can contact Plano police at 972-424-5678.

http://crime.about.com/od/missing/fl/Missing-Person-Christina-Morris.htm

Christina Marie Morris, 23, who was visiting friends in Plano, was last seen near The Shops At Legacy and walking with a friend into the parking garage at 5717 Legacy Drive early Saturday morning. She and her friend parked on opposite sides of the garage and walked separate ways shortly after entering the garage.
"The guy (in the video) is a friend of hers from high school. They had been at a friend's apartment hanging out and walked back together," Plano police spokesman David Tilley told reporters.

 

[CookieM]

I do remember that t-shirt comment about it being so long. I cant remember where I saw it though. You may be right about not being able to share clothes with her friends. It seemed clear to me she had a skirt on in the garage video (but I realize nothing is clear in this saga). I was just grasping at straws to come up with an idea of why she had wardrobe changes.

Yeah, trust me, I get your confusion. I've been confused as well. It seems that even though she was with 4-5 of her friends at an apartment 20 minutes before she was last seen on video, they couldn't all come to a consensus about what she had on. The thing that's weird to me (well ONE of the things that's weird to me) is that even if we say that four days passed and they had a hard time recalling, you'd think that at LEAST the descriptions would be somewhat similar. You know like "she had on shorts," "black shorts," "running shorts" or something like that, but it's patterned skirt, shorts, sheer skirt, super long tshirt that looked like a skirt. Makes no sense.

 

[Le Singe]

I would like to know what you guys think happened to Christina. I see a lot of you are leaning towards Ea... But, I'm sure everyone has their own idea as to who, what, when, & why???

I think voluntarily missing is a possibility IF there was foul play I think one of two things it was a total stranger (IMO low probability) or it was someone who is currently or was in the past very close to her. This made me doubt the walker because he is neither of these, but here is a question for yall the walker may have only been a casual acquaintance of CM but is it possible that he was very close to someone else who is or was in her inner circle? Do we know anything about this?