GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

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  • #241
To me the logical answer to this, which is in line with the feeling I get from things is: The family doesn't want general information they are beyond wanting information, they are just saying that because legally the can't say anymore. They want statement to strictly compare with his previous statements to look for inconsistencies. A lawyer that isn't an idiot is going to know this so there is no way they would do that. Remember the guy has talked to LE multiple times so its not like he hasn't told his version of events (obviously just because its the version he told doesn't mean it's true or not true we have no way of knowing that). So I think we can say pretty much for certain that he is in one of two situations:

1. He's truthfully told everything he knows to LE and he has no information that would help LE or the family. OR
2. He knows more because he is responsible for or complicit in a very serious crime being committed that CM is the victim of.

I have no idea which it is but i'm sure its one or the other and in either of these situations it makes no sense from him to give any further statements.

Again Le Singe ... You took the words right out of my mind and gut !!! :loveyou::loveyou:
I am very sure that PPD has a vested interest in getting this case to resolution. I feel (imho) if they see a questionable and relevant variable gap they would pursue to the degree that many seem to be expecting or perceived demanding
 
  • #242
It's funny because i was thinking about this the other day and I was all like "no way i would remember that no question about it" so i decide to test myself. I had been to a small social gathering 4 or or five days previously and I tried to remember what people were wearing and I couldn't do it at all with any confidence. I even had trouble remembering exactly who had been there and who had not. So I think your statement is very true but until I tested myself I would not have agreed with it.

Are you a guy?? LOL (just KIDDING!!!)
But if she supposedly borrowed clothes from her friend and changed into them, you would think that people would have noticed that. Not to mention if she changed more than once as we are meant to believe. I bet if one of your friends at the small gathering kept changing clothes throughout the night you'd notice that. Certainly some people are more observant than others, but again there is a kind of double standard going on as far as this case goes. If the group she was with all evening cannot recall her clothing accurately and descriptions change, they just "forgot." But IF someone else doesn't relay details they are "lying."
To me that's disturbing. And that's all my opinion, of course.
 
  • #243
I think you hit the nail on the head. This has been my feeling since all the picketing started which is why I'm sticking up for EA's family. I've also been told by someone that is a neighbor of EA's that the family was out there Monday and Tuesday evening picketing. If that is true (cannot confirm) that is four days straight. So....I state this as JMO.

I agree but I feel its possible her mom is getting the info from Christinas friends that are talking amongst themselves.
so and so said this and then he said that.....
On FB they said LE has not shared info and LE has said they wont share info.
so where is it coming from.
 
  • #244
Here is the list of all the items/clothing she was said to have on or in her possession. I kept a running list so we could see the inconsistencies.

Flowy bright kimono
Skirt with grey chevron stripes
strapless beige/cream top
beige/cream colored coverup
white/light grey tshirt that went down to her knees
black shorts
sheer skirt
black sandals
black flip flops
small black pull-string type backpack purse
camera
full-brim black hat/fedora
white iphone with green case
metallic blue iPhone with no case and teddy bear sticker on back
iphone with metallic blue case and teddy bear sticker on the back
 
  • #245
I can confirm that this is correct as I was there.

I think you hit the nail on the head. This has been my feeling since all the picketing started which is why I'm sticking up for EA's family. I've also been told by someone that is a neighbor of EA's that the family was out there Monday and Tuesday evening picketing. If that is true (cannot confirm) that is four days straight. So....I state this as JMO.
 
  • #246
Here is the list of all the items/clothing she was said to have on or in her possession. I kept a running list so we could see the inconsistencies.

Flowy bright kimono
Skirt with grey chevron stripes
strapless beige/cream top
beige/cream colored coverup
white/light grey tshirt that went down to her knees
shorts
black sandals
black pull-string type backpack
camera
black hat
white iphone with green case
metallic blue iphone with teddy bear sticker

I think there are 2 phones
As for the clothing I think different friends saw her wearing different things at different times.
It may be the person that gave her the shirt is the only one to know that.
She may have left when the others were sleeping so they really don't know what she had on so they tell what she had on the last time THEY SAW HER.

I think she had the oversized shirt on walking with EA and shorts. hat is on her head backpack and another bag over her left shoulder.
 
  • #247
Rehash time!! Fire up the PowerPoint!

Asterisks by facts, unsure/rumors without asterisks -- just to keep it straight.

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CM was reported to have been at Lewisville Lake with bf and other friends on Wednesday, 27 August.

**CM was at work at Great Expectations on Friday, 29 Aug sometime between the business hours of 11am and 7pm (we don't know exact hours she would have worked but this should be easily proven so we'll call it fact)

Boss says CM was crying at work because she found out that bf was cheating

**At 8pm Friday a photo of bf skateboarding at the Holocaust Museum in Dallas is uploaded to CM's Instagram

**CM went to Shops of Legacy that evening
for a girl's night out

**Her Toyota Celica was( later found) parked on the 1st level NE corner of the parking garage behind Dunkin Donuts

She was seen by witness to be walking through the parking garage toward Henry's just after 11pm

She was seen by witness to be wearing a flowy, colorful kimono top

**A photo later posted on sm with the comment "From the night she went missing" shows CM to be wearing a black hat, light beige strapless top, beige cardi-type coverup, and grey and white pattern bottoms. (We can't tell if it is skirt, shorts or pants in the photo)

She was seen by witness to have entered Henry's with two girlfriends

CM went to get something to Whataburger to eat something after leaving Henry's

CM went to an apartment at 5700 Scruggs Way and was with 4-5 friends

CM borrowed a large tshirt from her friend who lives in the apartment.

**According to dad's phone records the last 15 calls were to bf

**A text was sent to bf's phone from the phone of CM at 3:36 "I can't find the keys to house"

**CM and the walker walk from the apt to the garage and do not stop along the way (captured on video according to LE)

**According to Google Maps this is about a 20 minute walk

**A video from camera 13 in the parking garage at 3:57 am shows what appears to be CM (wearing what appears to be a black hat, black backpack, and long skirt) and an unnamed male hs friend walking just inside the garage

**The released video ends at 3:57 am, with the two still walking side by side

**As per missing person info released by LE: Last seen entering a parking garage near the 5700 block of Legacy Dr in Plano,TX. Missing person is known to carry her iPhone, which is white with a green back cover. She also may have her Cannon Rebel digital camera on her. Video of her entering a parking garage indicates she may have been carrying a dark colored back pack at the time of her disappearance. Missing person has a tattoo on her left hip that states, " Dream as if you will live forever, live as if you will die tomorrow", a healed belly button piercing scar, a nose piercing and a cherry birth mark on the back of her neck.

**A text was sent to bf from the phone of CM at 3:58 am "Can you please leave the front door unlocked?"

**Parents file missing person's report 2 Sept after boss contacts CM's friend about her missing work and friend contacts mother

**On 3 Sept Bf (logged into CM's page) posts on her page asking for friends to help give info/find CM
 
  • #248
Q. Is it possible that Christina drove out of that garage herself and returned?? PPD states that is unknown but seems like it could be a possibility.
Q. Is it possible that Christina had already arranged for someone meet her in the garage and she left with them?
Why else the abrupt change in staying at the Apartment Renters on scruggs?

PPD Investigation Intuition is a valid point in this case things are not adding up after talking to employer as well.
http://starlocalmedia.com/planocour...cle_5978a7b6-3479-11e4-a198-001a4bcf887a.html
"The majority of all incidents that we have that are crimes against another person have not been stranger on stranger. The offender has been a known offender," Tilley said. "That doesn't mean that this cannot be that small percentage, however we have nothing to prove one way or the other at this point."
“[Her friend] walked off one way and she walked off the other way,” said Officer David Tilley, Plano PD spokesman, of the last time Morris was seen. “He said he didn’t see anything and didn’t necessarily notice her going to go get her car. He went and got in his car and left.”

Morris’ car, a silver Toyota Celica coupe, was located by detectives in the parking garage. It is unknown if Morris left the parking garage and returned. While there have been no indications of foul play, Plano PD is not ruling anything out.

“This is uncharacteristic of her,” Tilley said. “When you start an investigation on a missing person, many times we find that our missing persons are missing voluntarily. … In this investigation, we started making contact with family, friends and employers and that’s when [we got] that investigator intuition that something is just not adding up. When something’s not right and you’re not able to account for whereabouts and at least come up with something, that’s when it really starts becoming a higher level of concern.”
 
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  • #250
I think you hit the nail on the head. This has been my feeling since all the picketing started which is why I'm sticking up for EA's family. I've also been told by someone that is a neighbor of EA's that the family was out there Monday and Tuesday evening picketing. If that is true (cannot confirm) that is four days straight. So....I state this as JMO.

Thank You so much !! I really wish a neighbor close to the family would come and share their perspective to the MSM and even here. I think it is important to have another fresh set of eyes or 8 (lol)
It must be frightening for neighbors..especially the children and elderly that are seeing strangers with sticks and poster-board.
Not to mention the fear of potential escalations for everyone's protection.
Did the neighbor state if anyone from the city has come out to talk with all the concerned citizens??
 
  • #251
They didn't mention anything about the city coming out. Just that the neighbors are getting pretty put out with the whole thing. I'm still concerned about it escalating as well. Technically the police can't do anything and everything I've heard and read says that the protest is peaceful. While I can understand the family wanting answers, I think this approach is counterintuitive. First, EA isn't coming out to talk to them and neither is his family. Would you? I know I wouldn't. Second if there is any hope that neighbors might tell them something, irritating the neighborhood is not going to lead to a desired outcome.

Thank You so much !! I really wish a neighbor close to the family would come and share their perspective to the MSM and even here. I think it is important to have another fresh set of eyes or 8 (lol)
It must be frightening for neighbors..especially the children and elderly that are seeing strangers with sticks and poster-board.
Not to mention the fear of potential escalations for everyone's protection.
Did the neighbor state if anyone from the city has come out to talk with all the concerned citizens??
 
  • #252
What if??????

she didn't come in her Car and her car was left there after the fact.

what if she drove out in one of those other cars?
 
  • #253
IMO All this attention diverted to EA is a very convenient distraction from others involved and from the bigger picture. JMO MOO and all that good stuff. (So don't ask for a link, cuz I don't have one)
 
  • #254
Not to mention a motivation for others to keep their mouths shut...JMO.

IMO All this attention diverted to EA is a very convenient distraction from others involved and from the bigger picture. JMO MOO and all that good stuff. (So don't ask for a link, cuz I don't have one)
 
  • #255
They didn't mention anything about the city coming out. Just that the neighbors are getting pretty put out with the whole thing. I'm still concerned about it escalating as well. Technically the police can't do anything and everything I've heard and read says that the protest is peaceful. While I can understand the family wanting answers, I think this approach is counterintuitive. First, EA isn't coming out to talk to them and neither is his family. Would you? I know I wouldn't. Second if there is any hope that neighbors might tell them something, irritating the neighborhood is not going to lead to a desired outcome.

Of course they are not coming out ..the Atty has already told them not to speak about it.
At some point when it becomes Non peaceful then it is no longer an assembly of a protected right.
It might be time for the neighbors to look at things such as city ordinances, calling their county sheriff, and city council,state reps as well.

This is all how I see things and my opinion
 
  • #256
Just my opinion but I've been thinking about the concept of "the weakest link". I was explaining that concept yesterday to someone as it relates to information security and I thought about this case. There is nearly always a weak link in most things in life. I don't know who or what it is in this case and I'm not suggesting anyone or anything but I hope it breaks soon (and maybe $25,000 dollars will help) and this sweet family could get some closure.
 
  • #257
What if??????

she didn't come in her Car and her car was left there after the fact.

what if she drove out in one of those other cars?

Why would she have gone to the garage and supposedly parted ways with EA to go to her car? Would her car entering and/or leaving be caught on camera?
 
  • #258
Of course they are not coming out ..the Atty has already told them not to speak about it.
At some point when it becomes Non peaceful then it is no longer an assembly of a protected right.
It might be time for the neighbors to look at things such as city ordinances, calling their county sheriff, and city council,state reps as well.

Why do you think the protesters will become "non peaceful"? They don't seem like an aggressive group to me.
 
  • #259
Why would she have gone to the garage and supposedly parted ways with EA to go to her car? Would her car entering and/or leaving be caught on camera?

what im saying is what if she came to the shops in a different car one that was not her own.
Or what if a car was left there for her to leave in.

I think she drove out in one of those cars leaving hers behind.
 
  • #260
Finally caught up... You guys are good so bravo for all your hard work.

Here is my THEORY of what happened:

I seriously think she left with someone on her own free will. I think she had this plan for awhile. I kind of get her, being a 26 year old female and we are kind of similar. I think she knew her boyfriend was a minimum wager (He's a skateboarder/modelISH, she went to college) Please correct me if I'm wrong, I just don't see him as being a real "hard worker" as opposed to her who it looks like she works her butt off. I see her being caught in a position of not wanting to move home (No matter how amazing your parents are no one wants to move back in to their parents home in their 20s) and not having enough funds to leave HF.
I know you are all going to come down on the how could she leave her dog?? Maybe she didn't like the dog, do we know if she bought the dog with HF, or if it was her dog? I dislike animals a lot, my boyfriend loves them, if he insisted on getting one we would, but if we broke up that is HIS dog not mine. Maybe that is how she felt.
She had the opportunity to meet men (probably wealthy) at her job, I use to work in an upscale club doing bottle service, there were a couple times I seriously considered giving it all up and marrying the rich old dude who asked. I later decided staying in college and graduating was more fulfilling but shucks if I don't think about it every once and a while.
I probably think this because I so want this beautiful fun loving girl to be okay.

Also I noticed a few people talking about they wouldn't stay at someone's house overnight if they had to work the next day, do we know for a fact what time she worked. She works as a photographer at a dating service, I think it's silly to think she would be going in before 11am. It's not like people wake up at 6:30am on a Saturday to get their picture taken for their dating profile. I always assumed she worked late, but it seems to be a consensus that she was going to have to be their early?
 
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