GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

[SaintGirl]

I agree we all have the right to our own opinion about the situation. I was not trying to state that people should not state their opinions. However when certain rules are supposed to be followed and some do that.....others do not. I have not seen anywhere in MSM that there was illegal or nefarious activities going on. If that is the case, I have just not read or seen that.

I am sure that most are concerned for Christina's well being. I also believe from reading every thread and every comment that some may wish that she is never found. Not you, and not naming names, that is just what I have observed on this page. When I joined this page I believed it was a victim friendly page and IMO that is not what I have experienced.

Agreed. Thanks to you and Josh and One wherever she went and everyone else who is out there searching and supporting.

 

[CookieM]

I agree we all have the right to our own opinion about the situation. I was not trying to state that people should not state their opinions. However when certain rules are supposed to be followed and some do that.....others do not. I have not seen anywhere in MSM that there was illegal or nefarious activities going on. If that is the case, I have just not read or seen that.

I am sure that most are concerned for Christina's well being. I also believe from reading every thread and every comment that some may wish that she is never found. Not you, and not naming names, that is just what I have observed on this page. When I joined this page I believed it was a victim friendly page and IMO that is not what I have experienced.

You are correct. There hasn't been anything released in msm or by LE that anyone related to this case has been involved in illegal activities. Via public records however we can see that many people related to this case have in fact been involved in illegal activities, so that is where that discussion stems from. We can't name names on here, but suffice it to say the list of people without drug arrests is shorter than those with, unfortunately.

I'm not sure why you say you think some people may wish that she is never found. In my opinion that's a terrible thing to say. You of course are entitled to your opinion but for me CM is from my hometown and I want more than anything for her to be found. The day I received a fb post that her mom was looking for her, I found this forum and have been wracking my brain to think of what could have happened to her. What I have seen on this forum has been weeks and weeks of concern from people like myself and even others that are no where near Allen. Just because someone disagrees or proposes a scenario which is not one you agree with doesn't mean they hope she is never found.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't think her friends had anything at all to do with this!
JMO

The only person that should have been alarmed at her absence was HF. (SHE LIVED with him)
She sent him a text saying leave the door open so that would mean she was on her way home, when she didn't show up
he should have called someone.
If......the boss hadn't called someone... would HF have notified someone she wasn't there?

Just want to add.
LE has said he is not a suspect so they must know exactly where he was that night!
this is why I think they broke up!

 

[Eileen730]

If HF broke up with her do u think she would harm herself?

 

[Momoffourboys]

You are correct. There hasn't been anything released in msm or by LE that anyone related to this case has been involved in illegal activities. Via public records however we can see that many people related to this case have in fact been involved in illegal activities, so that is where that discussion stems from. We can't name names on here, but suffice it to say the list of people without drug arrests is shorter than those with, unfortunately.

I'm not sure why you say you think some people may wish that she is never found. In my opinion that's a terrible thing to say. You of course are entitled to your opinion but for me CM is from my hometown and I want more than anything for her to be found. The day I received a fb post that her mom was looking for her, I found this forum and have been wracking my brain to think of what could have happened to her. What I have seen on this forum has been weeks and weeks of concern from people like myself and even others that are no where near Allen. Just because someone disagrees or proposes a scenario which is not one you agree with doesn't mean they hope she is never found.

Thank you. ITA.
IMO we are all here because we care and want her to be found safe, above all.
WS is a victim friendly forum where we can share ideas. Most of the time, people will disagree.
However, we all pray for the same...best possible outcome.

 

[JMOM]

I am not here to argue with you. I will take the high road. I will say this though. I too am from her home town and I happen to be friends with JM (I think that is what y'all call her) so I do know how "the family" feels about the goings on here. So, if anyone would like to help there is plenty of stuff going on that anyone that is willing and able can help with. There are fundraisers, social media efforts, all kinds of positive things to do that people can help with.

You are correct. There hasn't been anything released in msm or by LE that anyone related to this case has been involved in illegal activities. Via public records however we can see that many people related to this case have in fact been involved in illegal activities, so that is where that discussion stems from. We can't name names on here, but suffice it to say the list of people without drug arrests is shorter than those with, unfortunately.

I'm not sure why you say you think some people may wish that she is never found. In my opinion that's a terrible thing to say. You of course are entitled to your opinion but for me CM is from my hometown and I want more than anything for her to be found. The day I received a fb post that her mom was looking for her, I found this forum and have been wracking my brain to think of what could have happened to her. What I have seen on this forum has been weeks and weeks of concern from people like myself and even others that are no where near Allen. Just because someone disagrees or proposes a scenario which is not one you agree with doesn't mean they hope she is never found.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The timeline of events have already been done threads and threads ago ..hours and hours have been dedicated keeping up with it all
use this as a guide ..and you can fill in verifiable links if you choose. As I have an entire personal spreadsheet of my own as well that I work off of. Cookie has the working copy and running list of everything as well..

we have no POIs from LE and we can't rely on rumors as fact

Asterisks by facts, unsure/rumors without asterisks -- just to keep it straight.

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CM was reported to have been at Lewisville Lake with bf and other friends on Wednesday, 27 August.

**CM was at work at Great Expectations on Friday, 29 Aug sometime between the business hours of 11am and 7pm (we don't know exact hours she would have worked but this should be easily proven so we'll call it fact)

Boss says CM was crying at work because she found out that bf was cheating

**At 8pm Friday a photo of bf skateboarding at the Holocaust Museum in Dallas is uploaded to CM's Instagram

**CM went to Shops of Legacy that evening
for a girl's night out

**Her Toyota Celica was (later found) parked on the 1st level NE corner of the parking garage behind Dunkin Donuts

She was seen by witness to be walking through the parking garage toward Henry's just after 11pm

She was seen by witness to be wearing a flowy, colorful kimono top

**A photo later posted on sm with the comment "From the night she went missing" shows CM to be wearing a black hat, light beige strapless top, beige cardi-type coverup, and grey and white pattern bottoms. (We can't tell if it is skirt, shorts or pants in the photo)

She was seen by witness to have entered Henry's with two girlfriends

CM went to get something to eat after leaving Henry's

CM went to an apartment at 5700 Scruggs Way and was with 4-5 friends

**According to dad's phone records the last 15 calls were to bf

**A text was sent to bf's phone from the phone of CM at 3:36 "I can't find the keys to house"

**A video from camera 13 in the parking garage at 3:57 am shows what appears to be CM (wearing a black hat, black backpack, and long skirt) and an unnamed male hs friend walking just inside the garage

**The released video ends at 3:57 am, with the two still walking side by side

**As per missing person info released by LE: Last seen entering a parking garage near the 5700 block of Legacy Dr in Plano,TX. Missing person is known to carry her iPhone, which is white with a green back cover. She also may have her Cannon Rebel digital camera on her. Video of her entering a parking garage indicates she may have been carrying a dark colored back pack at the time of her disappearance. Missing person has a tattoo on her left hip that states, " Dream as if you will live forever, live as if you will die tomorrow", a healed belly button piercing scar, a nose piercing and a cherry birth mark on the back of her neck.

**A text was sent to bf from the phone of CM at 3:58 am "Can you please leave the front door unlocked?"

**Parents file missing person's report 2 Sept after boss contacts CM's friend about her missing work and friend contacts mother

**On 3 Sept Bf (logged into CM's page) posts on her page asking for friends to help give info/find CM

I just read this recap for the tenth time and had the craziest hallucination.

Was Christina ever in Plano on Friday night/Saturday morning to begin with?
Did video from inside Henry's prove she was near the bar area - should be between 11:00 p.m. and midnight on Friday night.

The comment from LE, about mounting cameras at 15 feet, bothers me. Along with the odd report that someone ran into her in the parking lot after three years. Yet, it seems Christina only spoke to the person inside of Henry's and SN throughout the whole time period. Something is amiss imo.

 

[SaintGirl]

I am not here to argue with you. I will take the high road. I will say this though. I too am from her home town and I happen to be friends with JM (I think that is what y'all call her) so I do know how "the family" feels about the goings on here. So, if anyone would like to help there is plenty of stuff going on that anyone that is willing and able can help with. There are fundraisers, social media efforts, all kinds of positive things to do that people can help with.

I don't know "JM" but she is the whole reason I am following this case and why I joined websleuths. Please tell her I think her strength and resilience is amazing and to keep fighting. Doing the little I can do from a distance.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

This is a great post .... I am really concerned that there was such a huge lead or headstart ..ppd has a difficult job ..
I wonder if by chance
She made it to Fort Worth as she planned??
She returned back to the girls apartment on scruggs?
She went to another apartment near Henry's?
She went with one of the cars in the garage?
She went with another car outside the garage area??

And I took the list a step further and wonder if Christina was ever in Plano.
No one agrees what clothes she was wearing, weird stories about her plans to stay and leave.
Coincidental sighting at Henry's by an unknown witness.
Timeline of events unclear (friends not forthcoming)
Only two people have commented about Christina's demeanor or activities from the evening.
No one can explain why her dog suddenly became a subject of worry.
Posting of bf to CM's social media at 8:00 p.m. (when supposedly she learned he cheated on her earlier the same day).
Suddenly TES pulled out of search of area near shops. Did cameras reveal CM never parked her car?

 

[txyorkiemom]

And I took the list a step further and wonder if Christina was ever in Plano.
No one agrees what clothes she was wearing, weird stories about her plans to stay and leave.
Coincidental sighting at Henry's by an unknown witness.
Timeline of events unclear (friends not forthcoming)
Only two people have commented about Christina's demeanor or activities from the evening.
No one can explain why her dog suddenly became a subject of worry.
Posting of bf to CM's social media at 8:00 p.m. (when supposedly she learned he cheated on her earlier the same day).
Suddenly TES pulled out of search of area near shops. Did cameras reveal CM never parked her car?

THIS IS JUST A THEORY and OPINIONS and Discussion:
Ya know WOE.. I think you and I have kicked the can around on this theory about 5 weeks ago !!!:loveyou:
remember how we were saying that anyone could have worn that outfit ... we never saw her face in the vid to confirm if it was really her leaving the illuminated corridor.. true there is a pic of her and PP allegedly from that night....
We just do not know

 

[txyorkiemom]

I don't think her friends had anything at all to do with this!
JMO

The only person that should have been alarmed at her absence was HF. (SHE LIVED with him)
She sent him a text saying leave the door open so that would mean she was on her way home, when she didn't show up
he should have called someone.
If......the boss hadn't called someone... would HF have notified someone she wasn't there?

Just want to add.
LE has said he is not a suspect so they must know exactly where he was that night!
this is why I think they broke up!

...THIS BBM
This is what is a real disappointment about HF IMHO

 

[txyorkiemom]

CM's stepfather works for American Airlines, I believe. That could be their fly free connection.

Which dad??? In Texas Or Okla???

 

[JMOM]

Will do! Her strength and courage is amazing! IMO! :loveyou:

I don't know "JM" but she is the whole reason I am following this case and why I joined websleuths. Please tell her I think her strength and resilience is amazing and to keep fighting. Doing the little I can do from a distance.

 

[JMOM]

Just wanted to clarify what I think may have been misinterpreted with that comment that I made. I was not saying that people here do not want Christina found. What I meant with that is that someone, supposed friends, acquaintances she may have been with that night, someone knows. If there is one of those people that are not being forthright or honest it makes them look guilty. Also if you were involved in some sort of cover up, would you want that person found or would you talk? That is what I was trying to get across. I should have clarified. So for that I apologize I was not trying to offend with my comment.

Thank you. ITA.
IMO we are all here because we care and want her to be found safe, above all.
WS is a victim friendly forum where we can share ideas. Most of the time, people will disagree.
However, we all pray for the same...best possible outcome.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

I just read this recap for the tenth time and had the craziest hallucination.

Was Christina ever in Plano on Friday night/Saturday morning to begin with?
Did video from inside Henry's prove she was near the bar area - should be between 11:00 p.m. and midnight on Friday night.

The comment from LE, about mounting cameras at 15 feet, bothers me. Along with the odd report that someone ran into her in the parking lot after three years. Yet, it seems Christina only spoke to the person inside of Henry's and SN throughout the whole time period. Something is amiss imo.

Just curious as to what your theory would be if that were the case? Since her phone pinged in Plano I'm trying to think what scenario would fit.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

THIS IS JUST A THEORY and OPINIONS and Discussion:
Ya know WOE.. I think you and I have kicked the can around on this theory about 5 weeks ago !!!:loveyou:
remember how we were saying that anyone could have worn that outfit ... we never saw her face in the vid to confirm if it was really her leaving the illuminated corridor.. true there is a pic of her and PP allegedly from that night....
We just do not know

Yes, just a theory but struck me between the eyes for a second time - lol! Hardly remember the first discussion - thanks for reminding me. I remember now!

The theory seems far fetched so we pretty much glossed over it. Yet the theory fits nicely with all of the oddities of the case.
Wonder what the cameras revealed. Another thing is, LE seemed to change their tune a little bit saying they're not sure if Christina is missing or met with foul play. If she couldn't be seen on camera in the garage or at Henry's, the case may not even fall under their jurisdiction. That is, if the cameras weren't faulty and technology permitted a good look at all the footage. Because, all of a sudden, TES pulled out and LE's stance seemed to change.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Yes, just a theory but struck me between the eyes for a second time - lol! Hardly remember the first discussion - thanks for reminding me. I remember now!

The theory seems far fetched so we pretty much glossed over it. Yet the theory fits nicely with all of the oddities of the case.
Wonder what the cameras revealed. Another thing is, LE seemed to change their tune a little bit saying they're not sure if Christina is missing or met with foul play. If she couldn't be seen on camera in the garage or at Henry's, the case may not even fall under their jurisdiction. That is, if the cameras weren't faulty and technology permitted a good look at all the footage. Because, all of a sudden, TES pulled out and LE's stance seemed to change.

Yes ..plus the footage is so grainy they could not tell the cars/trucks/vans whatever in the garage coming in or going out.
I think the tweets from the news station stuck me as odd as well that portions of the garage is dim/dark and I guess that has something to do with the quality of the footage recovered as well.

 

[CookieM]

Yes, just a theory but struck me between the eyes for a second time - lol! Hardly remember the first discussion - thanks for reminding me. I remember now!

The theory seems far fetched so we pretty much glossed over it. Yet the theory fits nicely with all of the oddities of the case.
Wonder what the cameras revealed. Another thing is, LE seemed to change their tune a little bit saying they're not sure if Christina is missing or met with foul play. If she couldn't be seen on camera in the garage or at Henry's, the case may not even fall under their jurisdiction. That is, if the cameras weren't faulty and technology permitted a good look at all the footage. Because, all of a sudden, TES pulled out and LE's stance seemed to change.

But didn't they release a statement that she and the walker friend were seen on camera walking from the apartment to the garage and they didn't stop anywhere along the way? Since the walk is about 20 minutes, that's how we figured the text about not having keys was made when she left the apartment (at 3:36), and the last text about "leave the door unlocked" (at 3:58) placed her at the garage after the released video time stamp. It seems as if they had that much footage to know that information, that they would know if it was or was not CM.
At this point, anything is a possibility, however, so I'm certainly not poo-pooing your idea!!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Just curious as to what your theory would be if that were the case? Since her phone pinged in Plano I'm trying to think what scenario would fit.

A cover up of some sort. Can't imagine the exact details. But some of us feel more than one person might be in on covering something up because details are hard to come by and are different (clothing descriptions). More suspicious imo is the evening seems to exist in a vacuum. Lots of rumors - bf cheating, was supposed to go to work Sat., night out with the girls with guys present, concerned about dog but was planning to stay overnight in the first place (no one can say the real reason she supposedly changed her mind about driving back home), last minute text about missing house key to HF, then poof!

The input about the night and morning, altogether, doesn't make sense and seems disjointed. Nothing is explained by any of it, just raises more questions.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

But didn't they release a statement that she and the walker friend were seen on camera walking from the apartment to the garage and they didn't stop anywhere along the way? Since the walk is about 20 minutes, that's how we figured the text about not having keys was made when she left the apartment (at 3:36), and the last text about "leave the door unlocked" (at 3:58) placed her at the garage after the released video time stamp. It seems as if they had that much footage to know that information, that they would know if it was or was not CM.
At this point, anything is a possibility, however, so I'm certainly not poo-pooing your idea!!

Yes, LE said walking guy and girl (thought to be Christina) can be seen walking from point A to point B. How clear is the video, captured at night and from what distance? Why did Christina change into a borrowed night shirt and then not change back again after she decided to leave? Why, if she planned to stay, like someone told her mom, didn't she have her own stuff with her? Just a bunch of little things are off imo.