GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #12 *Arrest*

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  • #861
And he gave them his phone.

HF turned his phone over on September 8th (was supposed to be on the 6th).
HF gave a semi interview. He was too distraught and JM excused him from answering any remaining questions.
What concrete information did we glean from his interview, any at all?
 
  • #862
I think if Christina was in that car LE would know it by now and EA would have been arrested.
They had his car for 11 days.
I don't think they found what they were looking for.

But that's JMO

Not necessarily, if by chance they took his car to Whataburger, they would have to work around that. Even if that were not the case, it all depends on what was found in the car.
 
  • #863
I don't think they found hair, saliva, skin or anything of Christina's in that car. Bring in the hounds. PPD didn't think to bring in dogs to see if her scent was even in the car. Not buying it.

We have HF on tape saying he is "mentally unstable" and he could have "saved the searchers days of searching". That sounds weird.

We have no idea if they did or not.
 
  • #864
We have no idea if they did or not.

exactly the kind of leads I was speaking to earlier. don't seal the deal to make an arrest but fluff it up. No reason to share those leads
 
  • #865
Anyway, I think EA offered up a lot of information. More details than I expected anyway.
 
  • #866
Difference in a 70 mph speed limit non-stop and a 40 mph speed limit with lights each mile through residential areas.

Ok so its quicker? it shows legacy is only one exit south of Bethany, maybe its wrong
 
  • #867
He sounded credible and sincere. I didn't see him exhibit one iota of questionable behavior during that interview. (Certainly a different interview than the other guy who has a vested interest in this case.) I saw nothing to indicate EA was not telling the truth or being cocky like he was getting over on anyone either.

Hey Boots...I missed that comment from the other guy about saving searchers time or whatever. I need to look that up! Was it in the interview and I just missed it?

(Sorry...the site is not allowing me to quote tonight again. Frustrating!)
 
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  • #869
Mapsquest shows it as being out of the way. I wouldn't know why he would go that way.
shops of legacy to Harvard ln allen, tx is a pretty straight shot. rather than going due east, he went north for several miles I guess to drive on the 121 tollway east which would put him in McKinney 10 miles north allen just to come back south then finally go east to his house.

Not out of the way at all. When I go to the Shops, I take the tollway (which is the closest intersection -- Legacy and the Tollway), travel north to 121 and take Alma back in to Allen. Taking Legacy or even McDermott all the way east would take too long and you'd have to deal with lights.
 
  • #870
Not out of the way at all. When I go to the Shops, I take the tollway (which is the closest intersection -- Legacy and the Tollway), travel north to 121 and take Alma back in to Allen. Taking Legacy or even McDermott all the way east would take too long and you'd have to deal with lights.

Going where he is going would he probably not go all the way to the 75 but exit before then or do you think would go to the 75 then south?
 
  • #871
I've done both but at that time of day, going all the way to 75 is still faster.

Going where he is going would he probably not go all the way to the 75 but exit before then or do you think would go to the 75 then south?
 
  • #872
Going where he is going would he probably not go all the way to the 75 but exit before then or do you think would go to the 75 then south?

You can look it up on GoogleMaps. Like I told you, I would go Tollway north to 121 north, get off at the Alma exit and head south to McDermott. To get to his house, he'd just go to Bethany as opposed to McDermott. That's exactly how I'd get to his house from the Shops. Going all the way to 75 would be illogical because that is much farther north. 121 goes northeast at about a 45 degree angle.
 
  • #873
HF turned his phone over on September 8th (was supposed to be on the 6th).
HF gave a semi interview. He was too distraught and JM excused him from answering any remaining questions.
What concrete information did we glean from his interview, any at all?

If someone else was there to get her, don't you think they would have identified the other car by now? I'm sure they know what everyone drives by now.
 
  • #874
No way LE would return car or items from car if they held evidence. Jmo but I am pretty sure.
 
  • #875
[modsnip] Really though it isn't fair to go after him like people are doing when we know nothing about him. (You may but we don't and can't.)
The bf had more motive and actions are more hinky imo.

Maybe there's someone who would love if EA is blamed, whether if guilty or not. I, for one, just don't know the answers.

I just don't understand why so many on the forum are so upset that others want more information regarding the last known person to be seen with CM.
I do not believe he is guilty of any crime against her at this point. Neither do I believe he is innocent. There are just not enough facts to go either way.
The last person known to be with a missing person (or a victim of a crime) is always suspicious until cleared. (And sometimes even after that). Apparently there is a perceived discrepancy in what EA told LE about entering the parking garage and taking leave of CM. Those two reasons make me want LE to look more closely at him. That's all. Yes, there are other potential suspects/POIs that also need to be looked at carefully, as well as a myriad of scenarios. LE is holding their cards very close to their chests! We don't have much to sleuth on.

It just seems we have a few people here dedicated to deflecting any and all suspicion/speculation from EA. Why such a vested interested in doing that? I believe that approach/attitude causes others of us to look even harder at EA.
 
  • #876
Jmo it is not our right to know more about anyone who has not been named a suspect by LE. Of course we want to know...but not the same thing.
 
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I saw it. Why would he be an emotional wreck? The point is he wasn't an emotional wreck when he didn't know where his girl friend was for four days over a holiday weekend. Then, all of a sudden, he's a wreck?

Why didn't he tell the search people Christina's camera was at their shared house? Who took the camera out of the bag that was in Christina's car into the house? Why wouldn't the camera be in the camera bag?

He didn't call her parents to tell them he couldn't find her if he even looked.

This is astute to me, I have the same feeling. Who thought she was going home (gf's or bf?) or if she was going to spend the night with the girls, who would care. I've said that rejection can get ugly. I'm not quite sure I understand the key information, just that she lost her house key and told bf? I'd like to know that her texts were studied thoroughly.
 
  • #879
IMO, I can see the opposite from some folks here that seem to have a vested interest in him being guilty. Not directed at anyone specifically. That said, I suppose it depends on your perspective and how close you are to the situation. As far as I'm concerned, LE has not cleared anyone but the fact that the family and friends have taken it upon themselves to picket his house and neighborhood and out him nationally when LE has not named him as a suspect or POI really bugs me. I think the empathy for Christina's family is absolutely here on this board. I for one pray every day she is found. But without confirmed evidence of a crime or confirmed evidence against EA, to put a young man in a position where he fears for his life and his family's life because you "think" he might have some information is unfair. He doesn't owe the family a sit down discussion. If he has told LE what he knows but the family thinks he knows more, then the family needs to take that to LE and encourage them to follow-up on it. I can appreciate the family's desperation but I really don't know why they thought he was going to talk to them under the circumstances. Harassing him daily at home and on SM isn't going to make him talk to you.


I just don't understand why so many on the forum are so upset that others want more information regarding the last known person to be seen with CM. I do not believe he is guilty of any crime against her at this point. Neither do I believe he is innocent. There are just not enough facts to go either way. The last person known to be with a missing person (or a victim of a crime) is always suspicious until cleared. (And sometimes even after that). Apparently there is a perceived discrepancy in what EA told LE about entering the parking garage and taking leave of CM. Those two reasons make me want LE to look more closely at him. That's all. Yes, there are other potential suspects/POIs that also need to be looked at carefully, as well as a myriad of scenarios. LE is holding their cards very close to their chests! We don't have much to sleuth on. It just seems we have a few people here dedicated to deflecting any and all suspicion/speculation from EA. Why such a vested interested in doing that? I believe that approach/attitude causes others of us to look even harder at EA.
 
  • #880
I don't know EA or anyone else in this case so I have no "vested interest" other than I would like to figure out what happened to Christina.

EA doesn't raise my suspicions for many reasons. Did I look carefully at him in the beginning? Yes. But the more I learned...the less he looked like he was responsible for this. Being the last person we know she was with on camera, he certainly should be of interest to police to question and to check out....which they obviously have done according to him tonight. The people at the party knew he was walking her to the car. The cameras saw them. He told police he was with her. What did he hide? Nothing that I can tell. His toll pass can place him on the way home in 11 minutes after he was seen walking with her. Not much time for him to subdue her and secure her in the vehicle inside the garage, imo.

Now let's hear from HF about his weekend. So far I haven't heard anything except lame excuses for him doing "not a damn thing". He was certainly good about doing "not a damn thing" that night and for those 4 days afterward. "Not a damn thing" is what he did instead of calling her mom to see if anyone had heard from her. He again did "not a damn thing" about those 15-25 text messages from Christina from the hours, minutes, and seconds before she went missing. "Not a damn thing" did he care about checking his phone for 4 days either, I suppose. Then after someone finally confronts him with her being missing, HF has "not a damn thing" to say about why he didn't worry about his live-in girlfriend he loved so much or why she didn't check on him or her beloved dog.

I want to know what HF did the whole weekend starting with Friday afternoon. I want to hear in a coherent interview from him exactly what went on. Where was his phone when he left the apartment and did he use it all weekend? There are so many, many questions I would have for him about the weekend. I would guess the family hasn't broached those subjects with him as they don't want to make him feel "uncomfortable" in his "fragile" condition n all.
 
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