GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[CookieM]

Moo,omo,IMHO,A few things.....first of all...I used to live off legacy drive, very close to the shops of legacy..... It should take wayyyy less than 11 minutes to get on that tollway back tonallen, let's say maybe 3 min most. There are no gas stations nor places to get food from leaving the shops heading to toll way either.

As a local who has traveled the route from the Shops back to Allen many many times I will have to say you are incorrect, in my opinion and according to facts we can pull up quite easily. If you look at the NTTA system map, you'll see that if a person travels from Legacy north to 121 and then east, the FIRST toll plaza they pass through is located at Custer Road. NTTA does not document every vehicle as it enters of reaches the toll road from a side road. Toll plazas are either at OFF ramps or are main lane plazas like the one at Custer. Here is the link to show this https://www.ntta.org/roadsprojects/Documents/NTTA-System-Map_All-Projects_052512.pdf
That being said, there are a few options for travel which you can check out for yourselves on GoogleMaps or similar (I'm on my phone and not able to post a link as easily)
Try from shops at legacy to Custer and 121 which will give you travel times ranging from 8 to 14 minutes -- and a toll plaza is NOT passed through until reaching Custer no matter which route you opt for. Since the video time stamp was 3:57, and he wasn't even at his car, giving him a couple minutes to get in, etc and leave means that 11 minutes is certainly reasonable.
I think people are either confused as to how and where NTTA documents Travellers on the toll road, but I hope this clears that up.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Questions to be answered only by those present that possibly will be and could be used under oath one day.
#1 Which one actually did the evenings planning?
#2 Who was the actual resident(s) renter of the apartment?
#3 Who actually invited EA to the Scruggs location -since he obviously was not known or part of their group?
#4 Who actually participated in the evening and mornings events?
#5 Who actually drove the group to Whataburger?
#6 Who actually invited SN to the Scruggs location - was he also a not known or part of their group?
#7 Was there any involvement amongst the girls and boys beyond hanging out at the bars for drinking,partying and eating whataburger in the form of affections in the physical form??
#8 What types of activities or recreations did those present participate in?
#9 What was the conversations about amongst the group or shared in privet.

These are just my own list of questions , my own opinion to get a better understandings of the dynamics of the group... Not saying or asking anyone to try to answer .. if you were not there ..then it is pure guess and speculation.

 

[JnRyan]

Questions to be answered only by those present that possibly will be and could be used under oath one day.
#1 Which one actually did the evenings planning?
#2 Who was the actual resident(s) renter of the apartment?
#3 Who actually invited EA to the Scruggs location -since he obviously was not known or part of their group?
#4 Who actually participated in the evening and mornings events?
#5 Who actually drove the group to Whataburger?
#6 Who actually invited SN to the Scruggs location - was he also a not known or part of their group?
#7 Was there any involvement amongst the girls and boys beyond hanging out at the bars for drinking,partying and eating whataburger in the form of affections in the physical form??
#8 What types of activities or recreations did those present participate in?
#9 What was the conversations about amongst the group or shared in privet.

These are just my own list of questions , my own opinion to get a better understandings of the dynamics of the group... Not saying or asking anyone to try to answer .. if you were not there ..then it is pure guess and speculation.

On #1, I strongly suspect that the only plan was to go to Henry's. And they just ran without a plan from there. (That would explain why Christina's car is parked in garage on the north side of the shops instead of on the south, closer to the apartment where they ended up.) But, yes, how that all played out, plan or not, is something I'd like to hear.
#3 and #4, yes, I would like to hear that part.
On #5, if EA drove to Whataburger then Christina's DNA would be in the car. I'm sure LE would test EA's car anyway, but if he were guilty there is his explanation for her DNA in the car. (Assuming no blood or other such substance, of course.) I'd REALLY like to hear this one.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe maybe not ....

Direct quote from PPD is important to have.

I would like to see one saying EA lied, since that keeps coming up i.e "changed his story" directly from police.

 

[cluciano63]

This is interesting and something I hadn't considered before. If HF did still have the texts on his phone then I'd say he's very unlikely to be involved in anything shady. If he'd had anything to do with Christina's disappearance he would have already disposed of her phone , keeping any record of him having received the texts would just incriminate him. Without CM's phone he could just say he never got the texts about the key (is there anyway to prove that someone opened a text once it's been deleted?)

JMO

They would still on her phone record though, the many attempts to reach him.

 

[CookieM]

Questions to be answered only by those present that possibly will be and could be used under oath one day.
#1 Which one actually did the evenings planning?
#2 Who was the actual resident(s) renter of the apartment?
#3 Who actually invited EA to the Scruggs location -since he obviously was not known or part of their group?
#4 Who actually participated in the evening and mornings events?
#5 Who actually drove the group to Whataburger?
#6 Who actually invited SN to the Scruggs location - was he also a not known or part of their group?
#7 Was there any involvement amongst the girls and boys beyond hanging out at the bars for drinking,partying and eating whataburger in the form of affections in the physical form??
#8 What types of activities or recreations did those present participate in?
#9 What was the conversations about amongst the group or shared in privet.

These are just my own list of questions , my own opinion to get a better understandings of the dynamics of the group... Not saying or asking anyone to try to answer .. if you were not there ..then it is pure guess and speculation.

I would think JMom would have some of this information. Maybe she can help.

 

[cluciano63]

I doubt he received threats before he was publicly named. Do any of the articles give a date showing when Christina's family tried to contact him the first time?

I found him easily from WS,when posters linked Christina's FB and were told to look for a male with the initials EA, so other people could easily have read that here, a long ways back, jmo.

 

[JnRyan]

They would still on her phone record though, the many attempts to reach him.

The records (unless the company is Verizon) will only show phone numbers and not the content of the texts. I believe it is Verizon that keeps the content of the texts, but only for something like a week.

 

[CookieM]

From where the exact spot she was parked per the link posted initially with her father and LE on MSM and where he went to the right are not on opposite sides. The Henry tavern on same bottom floor utilized the other area for valet leaving a small 50 foot maximum radius of where he potentially parked and if he is the heartless guy he appears to be then yea maybe he got in car and didn't care if she made it safe to her car.

I'm my opinion it would be more accurate to say "if he is the heartless guy he is being portrayed to be..." Because he doesn't appear to be any more heartless than others in this case. From what I have read he talked to police, cooperated with them, and now did an interview. The family said right away that he was NOT friends with CM. Almost immediately he was being accused, so I'm not surprised he didn't sit down and speak with the family. Look at how every armchair quarterback in the country is analyzing his interview. One person says "He's guilty-- see how his eye twitched??" Another says "He's guilty -- see how he never moved his eyes and was staring?"
In my opinion, ALL of her friends who were there should be thoroughly questioned by LE. The thing is, I think they have been! Someone may certainly be holding back something, but that someone is never going to give it up to the family. And perhaps not even to LE, especially if it has to do with illegal activity.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Has anyone thought maybe her car was moved from one spot to another?

I have been thinking that it was moved ..... just saying ... MY OPINION

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I found him easily from WS,when posters linked Christina's FB and were told to look for a male with the initials EA, so other people could easily have read that here, a long ways back, jmo.

His name was known right away but not allowed to be posted on WS. It was mentioned on FB and other sites at various points. It may have ended up being removed, but it was out there if someone looked hard enough.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I would think JMom would have some of this information. Maybe she can help.

Not sure if that is the case here ... since none of the family were actually there, then this will have to be reserved for the actual participants that will be accountable for answering truthfully..since this type of information will more than likely be used under oath at some point.
ALL JMO~

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Has anyone thought maybe her car was moved from one spot to another?

I also wondered if it was actually there in the parking garage for the whole time. I don't have any theories on where else it could have been, though.

 

[cluciano63]

The records (unless the company is Verizon) will only show phone numbers and not the content of the texts. I believe it is Verizon that keeps the content of the texts, but only for something like a week.

But the records would show she tried to contact the BF some dozen or so times. He can't keep them from being known by LE no matter what he does to his phone.

 

[CookieM]

Not sure if that is the case here ... since none of the family were actually there, then this will have to be reserved for the actual participants that will be accountable for answering truthfully..since this type of information will more than likely be used under oath at some point.
ALL JMO~

That is true I guess. Legal people would have to interject here, but I guess you are right that it would be considered hearsay if one of the people who was there told Jonni and she told JMom and then she told us. Only the first person telling the story (who was there) would be a valid source. That's how it works, right? Ugh. If that's the case then the only people quoted in media who were there were SN and now EA. So other than the video we have zilch.

 

[JnRyan]

I have been thinking that it was moved ..... just saying ... MY OPINION

Yes, that occurred to me as well. But I keep coming back to the cameras in the garage. A TV report about a week after her disappearance showed 2 cameras near her car. (First I read that ALL the cameras in garage, per organization that managed the garage, were in working order. Then someone posted on here that 2 of them were not working.) Depending on the status of the cameras, wouldn't this increase the possibility of someone being caught on camera either where it was originally parked and where it ended up?

But this is all based on number of cameras in the garage and how many were actually working. Absent working cameras your point adds another variable to this that makes it difficult to solve - why would the car be moved unless to take her out of the garage in her own car? And her car doesn't appear to be one of the 3 cars on video leaving (entering?) the garage shortly afterward. Yet, it would explain why there could be two different stories about where her car was in relation to EA's. I'd really like to be living close enough to Plano to take a walk through that garage.

And just thinking out loud on the subject - I am assuming LE tested Christina's car. I believe I've read that the father has it now. If someone did move the car, there is the possibility of DNA evidence.

 

[Eileen730]

I also wondered if it was actually there in the parking garage for the whole time. I don't have any theories on where else it could have been, though.

They mentioned 3. Cars.
then they say the video is to grainy I think they are not being g truthful.

They see something with the. Cars imo but probably can't tell who is in them.
Jmo

 

[JnRyan]

But the records would show she tried to contact the BF some dozen or so times. He can't keep them from being known by LE no matter what he does to his phone.

He would not be able to deny her texting him because the phone records would show a text from her phone to his. But without her phone or his, the records aren't going to show the content of the texts. Without her phone (and LE says they don't have it) or his phone (assuming he doesn't delete the texts), he can make up any story about the content.

 

[Salem]

Has Christina's car been thoroughly searched? Do we know?

Salem

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

He may have only been publicly named recently but here we've known his name almost from the first thread and I'm sure many many people in Plano have been aware of his involvement since the day Christina was reported missing.

I realize that, I've been here since the beginning. That is not the families fault though.