GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[Bootsctr]

2 questions:

1) How do we know it was PPs apartment? I have seen one other girl mention on social media that she was "there that night".

2) How do we know that no lie detectors have been administered.

I have to think about this. I know the other girl too. Hmmmmm...

 

[Bootsctr]

I can totally see why LE is all over EA, esp if he changed his story - I just wish I knew if any of her girlfriends noticed if he was hitting on her, or esp if any other guys tried to talk to her and felt rejected? Somebody may have been watching her and waiting in the garage. Good to hear that her boyfriend was proven to be in Ft. Worth. I don't know how you prove that if his phone was dead, though...I think I'm getting tired.

Me too! My brain is fried! Me and the :beagle: are fftobed: tomorrow!

 

[Happyshoes]

:thinking: True, if it was random. But I'm hearing and seeing anything but random. I think the odds are in favor of Christina knowing her >>>>>> I can't think of the right word. Whose going to sit in a parking garage where there are cameras and wait for someone to come out just to snatch them versus Christina might have upset someone?

Well, Boots - for once, we are thinking opposite. If EA didn't know there were cameras around, maybe some other goon didn't think so, either. Are there cameras all over or just the entrances and exits? Who could she have upset that could have caught up with her? She did disappear from the garage, right? Or I guess she could have walked out if someone called her to meet up or wait on them? ps..thanks for the lesson.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I feel it appears to have worked but in the end I think it will work against the family especially if they continue to badger him and his family....JMO and all that.

But really, what do they have to lose? There's nothing they could lose that's more important than Christina. How will it work against them? That they did everything they could think of to get answers shows them to be desperate people trying to find their loved one. No one should fault them for that.

 

[Mamamerced]

:thinking: True, if it was random. But I'm hearing and seeing anything but random. I think the odds are in favor of Christina knowing her >>>>>> I can't think of the right word. Whose going to sit in a parking garage where there are cameras and wait for someone to come out just to snatch them versus Christina might have upset someone?

I don't believe it was random, either. Neither do I think the perp would necessarily have to know it would be days before anyone noticed CM was missing. I doubt that bit was factored in. MOO.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I am hearing violins playing here for EA. It is way too early to worry about his feelings. CM is missing and someone is responsible. Just because EA does a few interviews does not exonerate him.

Honestly I am so very surprised at the reaction of people on this board to Christina's family's plea for answers. I really expected more support for Christina's family.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Also, he was very cooool....I am surprised that a 20something could conduct all those interviews with such ease. Basically saying nothing except for I did this, I did that, this is what happened to poor me, crazy
Absolutely nothing about CM, her personality, how she was texting walking into garage, what he suspects happened, other cars around, etc. -I mean he said nothing

He did what was asked of him which was to tell his side of the story. Yes, he was very calm and rational. He could even finish the interviews.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Another thought about EA's interview. He wanted to clear his name so he spoke to media. In the weeks following Christina's disappearance, he spoke to LE four times.
When asked what he talked to Christina about, he claimed to not remember. But, what if he remembers that she was sending texts to HF, possibly two texts within their walk together to the garage. Then, in between the texts, maybe she was giving EA an earful about her troubles with HF. And, what if, EA told LE that HF had been the topic of conversation the whole distance as they walked to their cars .

EA wanted to tell his side of the story but couldn't comment on the nature of their conversation (which made him look lame) because the conversation brings HF up and EA can't name another person to the media. If Christina was sending a text to HF while walking with EA, what is the protocol these days? Is it normal to mention to the person you're with, who you are texting and why?
EA may have listened to CM but didn't really care - just being vaguely polite - but then beat feet out of there as a disinterested guy as soon as he was in range of his car.

Therefore, he may be privy to what was on CM's mind, but that part of the story isn't his business to share with the public and LE wouldn't want him to. We know he was there for her first text (can't find my house key) because of the time it was sent. Not so sure about her second text (leave the door unlocked) because CM and EA may have already parted by then. We've only heard about those two texts, there may have been others sent in between.

Everyone assumes EA was interested in CM but maybe he was annoyed as he just wanted to reach his car quickly and go home. In other words, just as her bf sucked as a bf, EA wasn't a good friend either (CM's dad said so).

I'm not representing EA but do not think a guy is proven capable of killing someone just because they're not the ultimate gentleman.

Many, many people posted in the beginning of the case as to how safe Legacy was, how they walked their dogs very early in the morning and didn't think anything of it, how there wasn't attack-like crimes around the community, etc. No one expressed being on edge within the community before Christina went missing. They were shaken because nobody had been abducted before.
It isn't a stretch imo, if both EA and CM had similar mindsets as expressed by the general community, that once they were inside the garage, their attitudes were like, we're here - "bye".

 

[Salem]

:modstop: Stop with the girlfriend talk unless you have a link. There has been nothing in MSM to indicate such was going on. Link it up or let it go.

Salem

 

[Happyshoes]

Honestly I am so very surprised at the reaction of people on this board to Christina's family's plea for answers. I really expected more support for Christina's family.

In what way? I think we all feel deeply for her family and want justice; we are just trying to be objective, IMO. No disrespect intended at all.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

He did what was asked of him which was to tell his side of the story. Yes, he was very calm and rational. He could even finish the interviews.

What is EA's normal personality? I know people who are dry most of the time with little emotional range.
When we don't know someone personally, it is hard to say if they're out of character or not.
Many people, especially when young, aren't outwardly compassionate either imo. They may feel so on the inside, but expressing their feelings isn't common.

 

[Jjalexander]

Someone who would try to mislead by saying "she insisted on driving home."

LE hasn't searched the correct vehicle in my opinion.

Do you know for fact that SN's car was not searched?

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Hi, I have been following along. You all are great Sleuths! I had a thought that I wanted to add. It was 4 days before anyone noticed, knew etc.. that she was missing. Her mother has stated that it is not that unusual for her, correct? If so, wouldn't it be logical that the person/s involved in her disappearance could also know that as well? To me, this speaks of someone knowing her on an intimate level. ( Close girlfriend, boyfriend , etc.. )

This is just something that has been nagging at me and has really stood out to me through-out the investigation.

I don't think her mother said it was normal for her to be out of touch in general for days but that it was normal for HF to ignore her for days on end when they were fighting.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Honestly I am so very surprised at the reaction of people on this board to Christina's family's plea for answers. I really expected more support for Christina's family.

Maybe a representative from the family can offer up why they are certain other uncleared people shouldn't be on our radar. Those of us who don't know anyone personally, have a hard time understanding the thought processes based on what we perceive.
It doesn't have to do with support as much as wanting or trying to make sense of circumstances and conclusions that seem irrational.

 

[jnblsm]

yes, for 6 seconds. I think christina was fine. I think ea partied his arse off, drank a lot and then somebody went to what-a-burger and they ate at pp's apartment. And he was ready to go - drunk and full - ready to pass out. So, whose car did they go get what-a-burger in? Was that car also parked in that garage? Why were they all parked so far from pp's apartment?

where was christina's car parked from 9pm to 11pm?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I don't think her mother said it was normal for her to be out of touch in general for days but that it was normal for HF to ignore her for days on end when they were fighting.

That is kind of hard when you live with somebody though. If someone ignores you for days, that is very telling imo. It is a mean form of control.

People in their twenties don't have to call their parents every day. In no way does creating a little space indicate the relationship with the parent is bad imo. A person is supposed to learn to spread their wings without having to check with mom or dad every step of the way. But, if you live in the same house, each member should be required to check in. It is thoughtful and courteous to do so because people living in the same house have individual roles, habits, eat the same food, etc.

These are my rules and the whole world should comply!

 

[cluciano63]

It is nothing again family members, Imo, but we have seen other cases where picketing with signs etc. has taken place, and for one thing, it does not seem to work in bringing the person forward in any way desired by the family, as in Dylan Redwine's and Kyron Horman's cases, and also can turn ugly and ultimately ridiculous, as in Casey Anthony's case. It also incites the internet and possibly innocent people are subjected to some really horrible stuff, digging into their backgrounds, threats and more. All jmo

Also, if anything, these events tend to make the person targeted far less open to speaking with the families, Imo. They already know they are seen as hiding info and likely feel they won't be able to change their minds, especially if they have told all they know.

I empathize with Christina's family and the other families, as I know my late mom would have done anything under the sun...but logically, Imo, it does not help in the long run. Maybe a little added press for a few days...but the story becomes more about the one being targeted rather than the missing or murdered person in a hurry.

Jmo,etc.

 

[Happyshoes]

It is nothing again family members, Imo, but we have seen other cases where picketing with signs etc. has taken place, and for one thing, it does not seem to work in bringing the person forward in any way desired by the family, as in Dylan Redwine's and Kyron Horman's cases, and also can turn ugly and ultimately ridiculous, as in Casey Anthony's case. It also incites the internet and possibly innocent people are subjected to some really horrible stuff, digging into their backgrounds, threats and more. All jmo

Also, if anything, these events tend to make the person targeted far less open to speaking with the families, Imo. They already know they are seen as hiding info and likely feel they won't be able to change their minds, especially if they have told all they know.

I empathize with Christina's family and the other families, as I know my late mom would have done anything under the sun...but logically, Imo, it does not help in the long run. Maybe a little added press for a few days...but the story becomes more about the one being targeted rather than the missing or murdered person in a hurry.

Jmo,etc.

Excellent post, well said...I feel this way, too.

 

[Happyshoes]

I also wonder if her boyfriend thought she was staying overnight with her girlfriends, wasn't that original plan? so then was she texting him to say she had changed her mind about that, lost her house key, and for him to leave the door open - but he didn't get those texts because his phone was dead. Is this right?

 

[ahintexas]

Jonni said Christina wasn't a drinker. She didn't look drunk in the few seconds we see her. He said they partied. I think of partying a little bit like Going To Vegas? What happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas! You don't want people going around blabbing what went on at so-and-so's party.

I agree. In my 20's, my parents would always say I wasn't much of a drinker, but little did they know....