GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[leep]

I think her father said the same thing He was NOT a friend of hers!

I think your missing the point so what if shes not his friend or not what difference does that make when hes just offered to walk (20 mins) with her to her car.

 

[CuriousinNY]

Since the police questioned EA's brother, is there any chance he was with Christina's group at any time that evening?

 

[Dallastexas]

I don't think I would either honestly. Think about it....as soon as they released the video he was going to be target #1 for some folks regardless of what he does or doesn't do. That's just the way things shake out in these situations. If they really weren't friends and suddenly he starts showing up at all the events, there is a camp out there that would call him suspicious (i.e. Scott Peterson) and use that against him. Plus lets assume the same people that think he's target #1 (strictly hypothetical here) are also part of the vigils, searches, etc., anything, and I do mean anything he says or does during said events would be scrutinized, studied and judged.

JMO, MOO and all that.

I have to agree with you. JMO

 

[carltondance]

Since the police questioned EA's brother, is there any chance he was with Christina's group at any time that evening?

jmo but I would think interviewing the brother would be more of seeing for strange activity by ea and looking for flaws and discrepencies in ea's statements to police. I could of course be wrong and he might of hit their radar for another reason

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Has anyone thought maybe her car was moved from one spot to another?

If I were a juror, I'd expect to see evidence proving Christina's car had not been moved from 11:00 p.m. Friday night through September 3 (or whatever day LE discovered her vehicle). She wasn't reported missing until 11:30 p.m. on September 2.

 

[JnRyan]

If I were a juror, I'd expect to see evidence proving Christina's car had not been moved from 11:00 p.m. Friday night through September 3 (or whatever day LE discovered her vehicle). She wasn't reported missing until 11:30 p.m. on September 2.

And that may be difficult to prove. I know it was posted on here and I know I read it somewhere in the media that there are supposed to be 13 cameras in that garage. And all we have is one video (or know about) showing Christina walking into the garage. If there was footage showing Christina getting to her car we would be farther along. We don't even have footage showing EA going to his car. (If there was and he was by himself not long after the first video there might be much less discussion about EA if it were released.)

I like to find the article that mentions that there are 13 cameras in garage. Someone would have to be very good - or very lucky - to do something in that garage and not get picked up by one of them. Assuming there are 13 working cameras. And if there are some that are inoperable, who would know that?

 

[carltondance]

And that may be difficult to prove. I know it was posted on here and I know I read it somewhere in the media that there are supposed to be 13 cameras in that garage. And all we have is one video (or know about) showing Christina walking into the garage. If there was footage showing Christina getting to her car we would be farther along. We don't even have footage showing EA going to his car. (If there was and he was by himself not long after the first video there might be much less discussion about EA if it were released.)

I like to find the article that mentions that there are 13 cameras in garage. Someone would have to be very good - or very lucky - to do something in that garage and not get picked up by one of them. Assuming there are 13 working cameras. And if there are some that are inoperable, who would know that?

I believe user tatum has the maps and diagrams of the cameras

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I mean come on this quote just shows what a total piece of s*** this guy really is, i'm not saying he's 100% guilty but what a thing to say on MSM.

Me too!

And the bf? The person she shared a home with and I imagine was her intimate partner. How does his behavior compute? If their two actions are weighed, do the sins of a "loved one" weigh more heavily that those of a mere acquaintance? Which person would you expect to demonstrate greater concern and when?
Which is odder, not walking a woman to her car or neglecting to report your live-in girlfriend missing when she didn't return home for four days? Which choice seems stranger.

Being rude or thoughtless in general is one thing but how is it that someone does not notice the person they live with hasn't returned home (at some time he saw her texts) counting two more nights and three days. He never called police, Christina's mother did.

Every time someone points to EA not walking CM to her car, my mind tries to reconcile the above.
It is easy for me to imagine some guy not walking a girl to her car. Much more so than the other inexplicable situation at hand in this case.

 

[carltondance]

And the bf? The person she shared a home with and I imagine was her intimate partner. How does his behavior compute? If their two actions are weighed, do the sins of a "loved one" weigh more heavily that those of a mere acquaintance? Which person would you expect to demonstrate greater concern and when?
Which is odder, not walking a woman to her car or neglecting to report your live-in girlfriend missing when she didn't return home for four days? Which choice seems stranger.

Being rude or thoughtless in general is one thing but how is it that someone does not notice the person they live with hasn't returned home (at some time he saw her texts) counting two more nights and three days. He never called police, Christina's mother did.

Every time someone points to EA not walking CM to her car, my mind tries to reconcile the above.
It is easy for me to imagine some guy not walking a girl to her car. Much more so than the other inexplicable situation at hand in this case.

The status of cm and hf could greatly dictate as to why he wouldn't have returned her texts or calls and not bothered to contact anyone about not hearing from her

 

[SaintGirl]

Just as it has been said that all HF is (as of yet) guilty of, is being a crappy boyfriend for not answering calls/texts and not reporting CM missing. I believe the same is true for EA (unless further info becomes available) and he may just be guilty of being a crappy friend/person. Neither may be guilty of anything more. IMO.

I agree. Maybe if both had acted differently on Aug. 30 Christina wouldn't be missing. IMO

 

[CookieM]

I'd like to revisit the keys, if we could go back to our corners for a moment or two.
I wonder if any of her friends who were there that night can attest to the fact that she had her keys, or had in fact lost her keys.
If she did lose something, was it just her house key, or both?
Certainly if she had lost her house key and had no way to get into the house, she would have mentioned that to her girlfriend(s). And since the text (according to the interview that JM did with UptownDallasGirl) saying that she lost her key was at 3:36, this coincides with the time she were leaving the apartment.
Questions to answer:
Did she in fact lose her house key?
Did she also lose her car key?
If she did lose the house key and hadn't heard from her bf, how was she planning to get in (obviously he didn't respond to her text since he said his phone was dead... and come to think of it, if it was normal for them to go days without speaking, then why would she count on him even leaving the door unlocked?)
If she also lost her car key, why did she go to the garage? If her girlfriend(s) knew she was going to the garage and she did not have a car key, I would think that they would have said that from the beginning because that would have led everyone to believe that she either HAD to get a ride with EA, another person, or walk back to the apartment. Certainly this would have been reported early on.
If she did not lose her key after all, then WHY did she text at 3:58 that she had? Like I said, if it is normal for the bf to not speak to her for days, I would think that she wouldn't bother trying to incite anything from him. I used to think that maybe she was just trying to get his attention, but after hearing JM say that this was common, I have changed my mind.

I am intrigued that one text was sent as she left the apartment and the next text (the last before the phone was either shut off or lost power) was as she would have approached a vehicle int he garage.

 

[JnRyan]

I believe user tatum has the maps and diagrams of the cameras

So we know where and how many cameras there are. And we can relate these to where Christina parked (or where her car was found)? I tried a search on the user name 'tatum' and can't find anything.

 

[carltondance]

So we know where and how many cameras there are. And we can relate these to where Christina parked (or where her car was found)? I tried a search on the user name 'tatum' and can't find anything.

Yeah from my understanding there aren't any camera angles where she is parked, but all the exterior is covered from cameras and plano pd hasn't released the majority to my knowledge

 

[CookieM]

And that may be difficult to prove. I know it was posted on here and I know I read it somewhere in the media that there are supposed to be 13 cameras in that garage. And all we have is one video (or know about) showing Christina walking into the garage. If there was footage showing Christina getting to her car we would be farther along. We don't even have footage showing EA going to his car. (If there was and he was by himself not long after the first video there might be much less discussion about EA if it were released.)

I like to find the article that mentions that there are 13 cameras in garage. Someone would have to be very good - or very lucky - to do something in that garage and not get picked up by one of them. Assuming there are 13 working cameras. And if there are some that are inoperable, who would know that?

I could be wrong, but the camera they were filmed on was "13" and I always thought it meant Level 1 Camera 3 or something like that, as opposed to that there were 13 cameras. Don't bother asking me for a link, however, because that is just my deductive reasoning. (I had not heard that there were 13 cameras, though, that much I will say.)

 

[JMOM]

I have a bigger problem with EA not speaking to Jonni and Mark. I also have a problem with his "demise" comment on the Telemundo interview. What did he mean by that? Her demise? I would want to talk to him even more after that or be requesting LE clarify what he meant by that.

And the bf? The person she shared a home with and I imagine was her intimate partner. How does his behavior compute? If their two actions are weighed, do the sins of a "loved one" weigh more heavily that those of a mere acquaintance? Which person would you expect to demonstrate greater concern and when?
Which is odder, not walking a woman to her car or neglecting to report your live-in girlfriend missing when she didn't return home for four days? Which choice seems stranger.

Being rude or thoughtless in general is one thing but how is it that someone does not notice the person they live with hasn't returned home (at some time he saw her texts) counting two more nights and three days. He never called police, Christina's mother did.

Every time someone points to EA not walking CM to her car, my mind tries to reconcile the above.
It is easy for me to imagine some guy not walking a girl to her car. Much more so than the other inexplicable situation at hand in this case.

 

[carltondance]

I have a bigger problem with EA not speaking to Jonni and Mark. I also have a problem with his "demise" comment on the Telemundo interview. What did he mean by that? Her demise? I would want to talk to him even more after that or be requesting LE clarify what he meant by that.

There have been multiple individuals who have seemed to speak about Christina in that matter and none of which have seemed to help the family much.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

And that may be difficult to prove. I know it was posted on here and I know I read it somewhere in the media that there are supposed to be 13 cameras in that garage. And all we have is one video (or know about) showing Christina walking into the garage. If there was footage showing Christina getting to her car we would be farther along. We don't even have footage showing EA going to his car. (If there was and he was by himself not long after the first video there might be much less discussion about EA if it were released.)

I like to find the article that mentions that there are 13 cameras in garage. Someone would have to be very good - or very lucky - to do something in that garage and not get picked up by one of them. Assuming there are 13 working cameras. And if there are some that are inoperable, who would know that?

As of approximately October 9th, all cameras are reported to have been working all along. How weird is that? Earlier the impression was that only one camera was working leaving two that were broken. The three cameras are the ones capable of capturing Christina and her car and EA and his car, logically. Why would LE or we care about other cameras? Then, later the cameras capturing "cars going in and out" were referred to but the three original cameras must pertain to the area of the potential crime scene.

The mystery is, for what reasons did the camera status change? Potential lawsuits directed at Legacy Shops or LE telling a fib to begin with? I hope all cameras were working. If they were though, LE would be able to see Christina walking beyond their margins, engaged in a struggle, standing somewhere, something? No?

The video of EA and CM walking doesn't seem too vague to me. Can't any of the cameras in the garage capture images of people entering their cars, backing out, driving forward, etc.? How can Christina disappear between the walkway and somewhere further inside the garage? This, I ask, if all cameras were working as LE is claiming now?

 

[JnRyan]

Yeah from my understanding there aren't any camera angles where she is parked, but all the exterior is covered from cameras and plano pd hasn't released the majority to my knowledge

In one of the early TV coverages the reporter is pointing out two cameras near where Christina's car was parked. (Of course, he doesn't comment on their operational status.) I'll see if I can find that one. I believe it was the CBS affiliate.

 

[carltondance]

In one of the early TV coverages the reporter is pointing out two cameras near where Christina's car was parked. (Of course, he doesn't comment on their operational status.) I'll see if I can find that one. I believe it was the CBS affiliate.

Yeah if you can find that one that would be cool to see, cant remember there has been so many links lol

 

[SaintGirl]

The status of cm and hf could greatly dictate as to why he wouldn't have returned her texts or calls and not bothered to contact anyone about not hearing from her

Interesting.