GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[gw12s]

I wasn't sure about posting this yesterday, maybe other people who live nearby can verify.. And I'll try it again today. But I went to brunch yesterday at the shops and the time it took me to get to my car, put my backpack and jacket in the backseat, plug my dead phone in and wait for it to come on to check texts, leave the garage, and get to the first toll was 6 minutes. This was at 1 pm so I had to stop for people to cross the street and deal with more traffic than there would be at 4 am.

Does anyone else think 11 minutes is too much time?

 

[suzyjackson]

I know it has been batted around that some girlfriends offered to walk her, but I don't think a link has been provided. IF this was a set-up, wonder what the plans originally were since CM going home suddenly was not planned (as far as we know).

I'm not sure how likely this is, we seem to have come to an agreement that CM wasn't particularly good friends with the girls in the appt, I can't see them offering to do a 40 minute round trip walk at 4am. I'm not sure I would do that even for my good friends, much more likely to offer a bed for the night

JMO

 

[Mamamerced]

I'm having a hard time believing that any of the people involved in Christina's disappearance are covering for someone because they are afraid of being harmed. I think the only think they are afraid of is spending a long time in jail. JMO.

Yup. "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."

 

[suzyjackson]

Does anyone know who invited EA to the Scruggs location (party whatever) since he was obviously not known or not part of the group?

It was. I think, carltondance who told us that EA is a good friend of at least one of the girls in the appt group

 

[suzyjackson]

I wasn't sure about posting this yesterday, maybe other people who live nearby can verify.. And I'll try it again today. But I went to brunch yesterday at the shops and the time it took me to get to my car, put my backpack and jacket in the backseat, plug my dead phone in and wait for it to come on to check texts, leave the garage, and get to the first toll was 6 minutes. This was at 1 pm so I had to stop for people to cross the street and deal with more traffic than there would be at 4 am.

Does anyone else think 11 minutes is too much time?

That is really helpful thanks, I followed the Heather Elvis case and nearby WSers dove the routes she might have taken and posted videos which was very useful to others. It would be great if we could see some video from inside the garage.

 

[Tatum]

I wasn't sure about posting this yesterday, maybe other people who live nearby can verify.. And I'll try it again today. But I went to brunch yesterday at the shops and the time it took me to get to my car, put my backpack and jacket in the backseat, plug my dead phone in and wait for it to come on to check texts, leave the garage, and get to the first toll was 6 minutes. This was at 1 pm so I had to stop for people to cross the street and deal with more traffic than there would be at 4 am.

Does anyone else think 11 minutes is too much time?

That was my thought the other day when I posed the question. I frequent the shops and never really checked my time but I know that if I light a cigarette as I leave that garage (no bashing me for smoking please), then I have had three puffs as I am getting on 121/SRT. By the time I am exiting on 75 then I am reaching for my ashtray to put my smoke out. It takes me 7 minutes to smoke one cigarette.

Point being, it takes me 7 minutes to get from the parking garage to Highway 75 on average without heavy traffic.

 

[CookieM]

I wasn't sure about posting this yesterday, maybe other people who live nearby can verify.. And I'll try it again today. But I went to brunch yesterday at the shops and the time it took me to get to my car, put my backpack and jacket in the backseat, plug my dead phone in and wait for it to come on to check texts, leave the garage, and get to the first toll was 6 minutes. This was at 1 pm so I had to stop for people to cross the street and deal with more traffic than there would be at 4 am.

Does anyone else think 11 minutes is too much time?

Which toll plaza did you get to in 6 minutes? That's pretty fast in my experience and I'm local.

 

[CookieM]

I'm not sure how likely this is, we seem to have come to an agreement that CM wasn't particularly good friends with the girls in the appt, I can't see them offering to do a 40 minute round trip walk at 4am. I'm not sure I would do that even for my good friends, much more likely to offer a bed for the night

JMO

But at least one of girls who was there was in the video interview that was done. (The video done at Allen Station Park telling people who Christina was as a person, etc) I will try to get the link for you unless someone does it sooner. It was said that the girls in the video were eight of her very best friends. Confusing if now we are told they were not.

 

[StormyNights]

IF this was a "set up" by Christina's friends, don't you think LE would of seen them walk into the garage? I do believe I had read somewhere (on here) that all of the entrance/exit cameras were working that. I just think if this was the case, they would of been pressuring her friends a lot more.

Of course there is always the possibility that EA was told to walk her out and maybe somehow subdue her, throw her in the car or trunk maybe and drive to a pre-arranged destination. It just makes me wonder what the heck could of happened between her and those friends that would upset them enough to harm her, or worse.....shade or Skylar Neese. She had those type of friends as well. That was set off over a jealousy issue.

You have all given such amazing theories. They are all plausible and could very well be what really happened to her. I pray that they find her soon. It has been way too long.

ALL JMO

 

[TCMom]

At 3:30am, why wouldn't one of the girls offer to driver her and EA to the parking garage that is a 20 minute walk?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

So we have locals saying it should've only taken EA 6-7 minutes & we have EA taking 11. Hmmm.
We have an insider saying there was a recent altercation between CM's ex bf & the current bf ... And a recent get-together involving periphery/mutual friends of both of them BUT we don't know what provoked the recent altercation?
We have girls at this get-together that's suppose to be close friends of CM & yet she hasn't seen them in 6 months?
Was any of these girls dating EA, SN, ALP, or anybody within that circle? Did any of those girls previously date HF?
What cars are seen on video exiting the garage---it should be easy cause it's such a very narrow window of time involved & at the wee hours.
Why did CM park so far away from the apartment she was going to hang out at----40 minutes by foot?
Did CM know of the person who HF was cheating on her with?
Was it one of the girls at this party?

Where's her girl friends? Why aren't they more vocal & involved? Where's their interviews? Maybe they are but I'm not privy to them?

I feel there is one missing piece to this puzzle before we get our "aha!" moment where there's some semblance of what went down. Not that it will make it right.....but something has to give!!!!

 

[CookieM]

At 3:30am, why wouldn't one of the girls offer to driver her and EA to the parking garage that is a 20 minute walk?

THANK YOU! I have asked this again and again! I find it quite odd. EA said that after he ate the food from Whataburger he decided to leave. That tells me that the people at the apt were awake and functioning. At one point we speculated that maybe they were all crashed out and they were not even aware she was leaving. If they went to Whataburger, went to the apt to eat it, and right after CM and EA both left, that names me think that the other friends would have been aware they were leaving. I agree that it is weird that someone didn't just say, "let me give you guys a lift to your cars since it's kindof a long walk."

 

[CookieM]

So we have locals saying it should've only taken EA 6-7 minutes & we have EA taking 11. Hmmm.
We have an insider saying there was a recent altercation between CM's ex bf & the current bf ... And a recent get-together involving periphery/mutual friends of both of them BUT we don't know what provoked the recent altercation?
We have girls at this get-together that's suppose to be close friends of CM & yet she hasn't seen them in 6 months?
Was any of these girls dating EA, SN, ALP, or anybody within that circle? Did any of those girls previously date HF?
What cars are seen on video exiting the garage---it should be easy cause it's such a very narrow window of time involved & at the wee hours.
Why did CM park so far away from the apartment she was going to hang out at----40 minutes by foot?
Did CM know of the person who HF was cheating on her with?
Was it one of the girls at this party?

Where's her girl friends? Why aren't they more vocal & involved? Where's their interviews? Maybe they are but I'm not privy to them?

I feel there is one missing piece to this puzzle before we get our "aha!" moment where there's some semblance of what went down. Not that it will make it right.....but something has to give!!!!

I am a local and I'm saying it does make sense to say it would take 11 minutes to get from the Shops of Legacy to the first toll plaza on 121. That main lane toll is at Custer road and 121. I posted the explanation of how the toll road plazas are set up and a link to the NTTA pdf that shows that in an earlier post.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Is it a 20 minute walk from the apartment to the garage or a 40 minute walk?
Either way it's a long enough walk where chatting would be going on for EA to remember what they talked about, no?
But I believe he says he doesn't remember???

Moo

 

[TCMom]

Is it a 20 minute walk from the apartment to the garage or a 40 minute walk?
Either way it's a long enough walk where chatting would be going on for EA to remember what they talked about, no?
But I believe he says he doesn't remember???

Moo

It's 20. And there's no way that I could walk 20 minutes with someone and say nothing. Awk.ward.

I'd have to figure out some way to make small talk. Have a good time? How long's it take you to get to your house? Plans for the rest of the weekend. Something. Couldn't walk 20 minutes in silence. Christina seems, based on a few videos I've seen and pictures I've seen, like a friendly, silly, outgoing girl. People like that don't remain mute for 20 minutes.

 

[gw12s]

That is really helpful thanks, I followed the Heather Elvis case and nearby WSers dove the routes she might have taken and posted videos which was very useful to others. It would be great if we could see some video from inside the garage.

If I have time to get over there today after work I'll record it, it may not be until tomorrow though.

Which toll plaza did you get to in 6 minutes? That's pretty fast in my experience and I'm local.

Here's the route I took minus the uturn from Bishop to DNT - mine was a straight turn right and go but Maps isn't letting me drag it there! This one also went from the sushi place I was at though I couldn't get the location to stay on the garage without it creating a bunch of new blue lines. I circled in red where I got onto 121. Maps is saying less time though. Can someone do better? My computer isn't letting me do what I need it to.

It may have just been a fluke that it didn't take me 11 minutes. He could have hit every red light from the garage to 121.

 

[TCMom]

If I have time to get over there today after work I'll record it, it may not be until tomorrow though.




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Here's the route I took, this one went from the sushi place I was at though I couldn't get the location to stay on the garage without it creating a bunch of new blue lines. I circled in red where I got onto 121. Maps is saying less time though.

It may have just been a fluke that it didn't take me 11 minutes. He could have hit every red light from the garage to 121.

The toll plaza where EA was "dinged" is at Custer and 121.

 

[gw12s]

The toll plaza where EA was "dinged" is at Custer and 121.

Ah!! That makes more sense if the ding is where he exited the toll road. The circled one is Custer road where he would have exited to get to Allen.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

It's 20. And there's no way that I could walk 20 minutes with someone and say nothing. Awk.ward.

I'd have to figure out some way to make small talk. Have a good time? How long's it take you to get to your house? Plans for the rest of the weekend. Something. Couldn't walk 20 minutes in silence. Christina seems, based on a few videos I've seen and pictures I've seen, like a friendly, silly, outgoing girl. People like that don't remain mute for 20 minutes.

Right.....so why does EA say he doesn't remember what they talked about? No attorney would advise him to give that answer.

So is he afraid to say what they talked about? Why?

 

[iluvmua]

I also have a hard time with EA saying they did not really have a convo.