GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #16 *Arrest*

[cluciano63]

As if this story cant get any crazier. I just watched a forensic files on youtube. The story is identicle to Christinas. Her name is actually Christie. A girl went to a parking lot with a man and her car was left there and she disapeared. She lived with her boyfriend, the suspect said he went strait home. He went to work late the next morning. His car was cleaned and vacummed. He had stratches on his face and arms. Check it out! Youtube. Forensic files wheel of misfortune. Season 12 episode 4. Bizarre!

Funny, I was just going to post about another episode of FF that was on tonight. A guy said that a woman who went missing had had consensual sex with him and then left when a very angry man showed up to get her. Anyway, police searched the guy's car, which had been cleaned with every from Pine Sol to bleach, etc and found a microscopic bit of her blood of steering wheel, which ended up being the only real evidence they found, though it convicted him. Anyway...this was quite a while ago, more than a decade, and it did not take up to eights weeks to get the results. Jmo

 

[JnRyan]

From VI info, CM was using EA's phone. EA did not contact HF.

...and that would be logical (some of this so far is not, to me anyway). She probably figured HF was screening his calls based on the number he was seeing.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I've thought that if Christina was trying to get in touch with HF for most of the night (15 calls/texts btw midnight and 4AM?) and he wasn't answering maybe a call from another phone would get a response. Based on the time of the 3 calls/texts, Christina was walking next to EA. She looked as if she might be texting, while EA did not appear to be. Did Christina try to contact HF from EA's phone? We don't know what the texts said, but supposedly HF voluntarily provided his phone to LE. No one has said what the content of the texts were. But HF would have seen the number they came from on Monday or Tuesday.

I just RE-read the warrant... And it states text messages and a phone call were made from EA's phone to HF...

Sooo... You are right...we do not know WHO sent the messages and the phone call... But hopefully LE does...

JMO...

 

[Eight]

I read something about the sent texts, asking her bf to leave the door unlocked. I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but if she was missing her keys, and couldn't get into her home, then she probably couldn't get into her car either? and if that was the problem how did she intend to get home? Was she planning on taking the train? I see that you can catch a train that takes you to dallas, and then to fort worth. Personally I wouldn't want to impose on anyone to give me a ride all that way to fort worth unless they were going in the same direction, but I would probably ask for a ride to the train station.

 

[suzyjackson]

I read something about the sent texts, asking her bf to leave the door unlocked. I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but if she was missing her keys, and couldn't get into her home, then she probably couldn't get into her car either? and if that was the problem how did she intend to get home? Was she planning on taking the train? I see that you can catch a train that takes you to dallas, and then to fort worth. Personally I wouldn't want to impose on anyone to give me a ride all that way to fort worth unless they were going in the same direction, but I would probably ask for a ride to the train station.

We've had a lot of discussion about which keys were lost and many posters have said that they do or don't keep both keys together.

Yesterday someone posted a good point that it doesn't matter what anyone else does, Christina only referred to house keys in her text so the logical conclusion is that she had her car key. I agree with this but there is a slight confusing factor that one of the party goers stated on facebook that the keys had been found by the time she left the appartment.

This is strange to me as the texts were sent after she left the apt, if the party person is being truthful it leads me to think that maybe the texts were typed out earlier in the evening but didn't send due to no service at the apt. They then sent automatically later when there was service. This would actually explain why there were 3 contacts from EAs phone between the 2 texts from Christina's.

She texts from the apt, no service, uses her phone on the walk to the garage, battery fails then she borrows EA's phone. At that point maybe she doesn't realise that the first 2 texts hadn't been delivered and the content of the later communications is about something else altogether.

I still think that maybe the reason HF didn't make efforts to contact Christina was that during the walk to the garage he told he that they were finished and he didn't want to hear from her again. After a fight and a holiday weekend I honestly don't think he would have been too worried about not hearing from her, a lot of young men can be self centred and maybe not think about things in the same way that those of us who are more mature/older would.

JMO

 

[frisson]

So I've been thinking about the missing keys all day since I momentarily misplaced my house key this morning. I have my house/mailbox key on a detachable key chain separate from my car keys, in case I need to check the mail or run into the house for something and don't want to turn off the car.

The way Christina's message to HF is worded ("I can't find the HOUSE keys") makes it seem like she may have a similar setup. Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps JMOM or Carlton know?

So entertain me while I think out loud here:

If she has her car keys but not her house keys, why not just drive home and bang on the door until HF wakes up? Why ask EA/accept his offer for a ride home, where she would just have to do the same thing? What if she wasn't planning on going home right away? What if EA offers to smoke some weed with her, and they go for a quick cruise, with her planning to return to her car and drive home? (Sorry if this is an offensive suggestion, and I don't know Christina personally so I don't know if this is something she would do... but I am Christina's age, go to her college, and our circles of friends often cross... this would be a common occurrence.)

But maybe I'm wrong and she was missing both the house keys and the car keys. Either way, where are the keys? Dropped on the street? Dropped at the bar or at Whataburger? Dropped at PP's apartment? Taken by someone at the apartment to get her to stay longer? Taken by someone at the apartment to ensure she would have to ask for a ride home? Lost at the bottom of her bag? I wish they would search PP and EA's homes.

Just trying to throw some ideas out there to get us thinking! Everyone on here amazes me, coming up with such smart ideas and questions that never even cross my mind.

All JMO

Great points. The keys also bother me. How do we know that she said, "house keys?" instead of "keys?" Did someone at the party take the car key, (or all the keys) unlock the car, return the key/s, but later get in the car (or someone else) and wait for her to open the door? Does she routinely lock the car door? And if so, is there a plausible way to break into a locked car of her make and model - and wait for the owner, CM, to show up? It wouldn't be the first time that someone was waiting in the backseat. But if so, how did they get out of the garage? Or was someone waiting at her car, near her car, but not inside the car. I wish we had the video, if there is any, - of her approaching her car... if she did... if she made it that far.

If the party folks are to be believed, where were the keys found and when and by whom? Were they missing at some point during the party and found before she left?

I also agree that I'd rather someone without a house key knock on the door upon arrival rather than leave the door unlocked. That is, if the bf was going to be home. Was he home? And was he alone? In the post a few posts above, it was mentioned that the bf was unable to reach her. When was that? B/c all I recall reading was that he ignored her calls, (or had the phone off) and that he didn't make any calls. Maybe I missed something.

 

[frisson]

The party was very small 5 people, give or take 1 and the other party goers were friends of the ex bf, ALP? Is that correct? Were these people friends of CM's with whom CM hung out regularly? The party apartment is 50 miles from her current home that she shared with her bf, H. And from what I understand, the current bf, H, was the best friend of the ex, ALP? Did they remain friends after CM changed partners? I've read the threads, but I'm still confused.

 

[ShellockHolmes]

Thank you catpatrol! That was so AWESOME of you! You Rock! I love it! Beautiful!

Hey all, I was inspired by the discussion about seeing dragonflies while searching and I made a couple of computer wallpapers to honor Christina. I'm no expert, just like to mess around on the computer making things.

This one is inspired by Christina's clothing line, Trust None

Hoping & praying she is found soon

 

[ShellockHolmes]

Starting the day out with positive vibes and prayers for the family....may today be the day Christina comes home


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/161496336613034972/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/381257924677610306/

 

[JMOM]

No. Personally I have ski clothes. 30 degrees won't stop me.

Have the cold temps in the area slowed down the searches?

 

[JMOM]

He retweets Christina's stuff all the time. Not dark. Christina's social media team pulls and retweets his stuff too. This is not true.

I'm sure they are all going dark. HF's went dark weeks ago.

 

[JMOM]

Christina an used EA's phone to call and text Hunter while walking to garage.

I still have not reconciled the reason EA called HF... More than once...

That night... And at those times...

What were they discussing?

CM supposedly knew EA peripherally... From high school...

Sooo... How "close" were HF and EA....

JMO...

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

We've had a lot of discussion about which keys were lost and many posters have said that they do or don't keep both keys together.

Yesterday someone posted a good point that it doesn't matter what anyone else does, Christina only referred to house keys in her text so the logical conclusion is that she had her car key. I agree with this but there is a slight confusing factor that one of the party goers stated on facebook that the keys had been found by the time she left the appartment.

This is strange to me as the texts were sent after she left the apt, if the party person is being truthful it leads me to think that maybe the texts were typed out earlier in the evening but didn't send due to no service at the apt. They then sent automatically later when there was service. This would actually explain why there were 3 contacts from EAs phone between the 2 texts from Christina's.

She texts from the apt, no service, uses her phone on the walk to the garage, battery fails then she borrows EA's phone. At that point maybe she doesn't realise that the first 2 texts hadn't been delivered and the content of the later communications is about something else altogether.

I still think that maybe the reason HF didn't make efforts to contact Christina was that during the walk to the garage he told he that they were finished and he didn't want to hear from her again. After a fight and a holiday weekend I honestly don't think he would have been too worried about not hearing from her, a lot of young men can be self centred and maybe not think about things in the same way that those of us who are more mature/older would.

JMO

BBM
Maybe I am too literal, but it will never make sense to me no matter what HF told Christina that night, logic is she would need to go home. She would need clothing, perhaps a phone charger, perhaps her checkbook and bills, her dog, her jewelry, her cologne, her toiletries, her THINGS. I guess the part that makes me feel so bad about this is that when Christina ran into trouble that night, she probably thought that HF was expecting her and perhaps help would be forthcoming. that people would start looking for her since he knew where she was headed. HF may be the most accommodating person on the earth right now but that is like shutting the barn door after the horses are out. I understand the family is fully supportive of him but in no way could I give him a pass. JMO

 

[JMOM]

How do you know Hunter didn't contact EA? How do we know that EA didn't lie to HIM about where Christina was? We don't. But whether Hunter called him after has not been released. I can tell you though I'm sure the family would wouldn't be supportive of him if he hadn't. jMO

Wow! Now THAT is something I hadn't even thought of... you are right: Supposedly she contacts HF using Arochi's phone. She sends a text saying she has no keys, leave the door unlocked. She never appears. SURELY her bf called Arochi at some point in those 4 days to say, "Hey dude, she was with you Friday morning/Saturday night.... so where is she because she hasn't come home!" According to the info from LE in that warrant, HF says he was not able to contact her either. It didn't say he didn't try to contact her, but that he was unable to contact her. It would only make sense that he would call the people she had been with that night. Maybe he didn't have the other people's numbers BUT we KNOW he had Arochi's because she contacted HF via Arochi's phone!!

 

[suzyjackson]

Christina an used EA's phone to call and text Hunter while walking to garage.

I don't suppose you can tell us if the calls were answered can you?

 

[suzyjackson]

BBM
Maybe I am too literal, but it will never make sense to me no matter what HF told Christina that night, logic is she would need to go home. She would need clothing, perhaps a phone charger, perhaps her checkbook and bills, her dog, her jewelry, her cologne, her toiletries, her THINGS. I guess the part that makes me feel so bad about this is that when Christina ran into trouble that night, she probably thought that HF was expecting her and perhaps help would be forthcoming. that people would start looking for her since he knew where she was headed. HF may be the most accommodating person on the earth right now but that is like shutting the barn door after the horses are out. I understand the family is fully supportive of him but in no way could I give him a pass. JMO

As we've been assured that the family are supportive of HF and don't think he was involved I'm trying to think of reasons that he wouldn't have raised the alarm and I'm using what experience I have of young skaters/stoners to make sense of it.

The only thing that I find odd is the dog, I can quite see that he wouldn't have given clothes or toiletries a second thought and even if he did Christina had her own money, he'd just think she would buy more or borrow from friends in Plano. I would be interested to know what he did with Madden and whether Christina had ever left the dog before.

In reality while his inaction might have hindered the search I honestly don't think he could have had any effect on whatever happened that night.

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

Christina an used EA's phone to call and text Hunter while walking to garage.

Hey JMOM!
since Christina used EA's phone to try to contact HF
did HF try that number to locate Christina.

 

[suzyjackson]

Hey JMOM!
since Christina used EA's phone to try to contact HF
did HF try that number to locate Christina.

Maybe Christina blocked the ID of the phone she was calling from, maybe HF didn't even know whose phone it was

JMO

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

As we've been assured that the family are supportive of HF and don't think he was involved I'm trying to think of reasons that he wouldn't have raised the alarm and I'm using what experience I have of young skaters/stoners to make sense of it.

The only thing that I find odd is the dog, I can quite see that he wouldn't have given clothes or toiletries a second thought and even if he did Christina had her own money, he'd just think she would buy more or borrow from friends in Plano. I would be interested to know what he did with Madden and whether Christina had ever left the dog before.

In reality while his inaction might have hindered the search I honestly don't think he could have had any effect on whatever happened that night.

JMO

Yes, Suzy I have been curious about what happened with Madden during those four days also, and I have often wondered and asked what Christina was planning on doing with Madden if she had to work on Saturday. JMOM - do you know?

 

[JMOM]

I'm sorry I can not. Jonni is a bulldog as if you can't tell. LOL If she or the family thought for one second Hunter was involved there would be picketing in Ft Worth. LOL

I don't suppose you can tell us if the calls were answered can you?