GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #16 *Arrest*

[catpatrol]

I think it would be somewhat simple to determine if HF and EA had been in contact with one another in the days before or after Christina's disappearance. First, police can review their cell phone records. If you believe it is a case of either HF or EA having more than one cell phone, couldn't police review their credit card statements to see if there are more than one cell phone bill?

 

[frisson]

I think it would be somewhat simple to determine if HF and EA had been in contact with one another in the days before or after Christina's disappearance. First, police can review their cell phone records. If you believe it is a case of either HF or EA having more than one cell phone, couldn't police review their credit card statements to see if there are more than one cell phone bill?

It's my understanding that there are prepaid throw-away phones available that are inexpensive that do not require a bill or a credit/debit card. Many times, from things I've read in general, (other cases, for example) that that was the point. No paper trail. Iow, there's a regular phone for friends, family, turning over to police as the case may be, and another phone for whatever purposes one has that require privacy and no paper trail ...whatever. I'm not referring to a company issued work phone.
Just a thought. My opinion. IDK who had what. I'm just saying what I think the options can be.

 

[Eight]

My biggest question is how was she planning to get home that morning if she texted she was coming. I would never ask anyone to give me a ride that was 50 miles away 100 miles round trip if you live in the Plano area. Who would volunteer for that if they don't live in that direction? I imagine a taxi would be very expensive and probably too expensive, so the maybe the only solution would be the train. It seems from the timing of the texts there was very little time between the texts being sent, and his car leaving the garage, just doesn't seem like enough time for a struggle to happen in between, so it seems willingly, but for what reason? The only other reason besides going to the train station that I can think of is if someone offered to buy me breakfast.

 

[JMOM]

Catpatrol: O/T - by the way your dragonfly photo seems to be going viral! We used on the public HFCM page...hope you don't mind. We may use also on some benefit flyers if that is ok with you?

 

[JMOM]

IMO - Christina may have been getting a ride to Mark and Anna's house in Allen, they live only a couple of miles from EA. With Hunter not answering and her key being lost that is the most logical explanation that I can come up with. JMO of course

My biggest question is how was she planning to get home that morning if she texted she was coming. I would never ask anyone to give me a ride that was 50 miles away 100 miles round trip if you live in the Plano area. Who would volunteer for that if they don't live in that direction? I imagine a taxi would be very expensive and probably too expensive, so the maybe the only solution would be the train. It seems from the timing of the texts there was very little time between the texts being sent, and his car leaving the garage, just doesn't seem like enough time for a struggle to happen in between, so it seems willingly, but for what reason? The only other reason besides going to the train station that I can think of is if someone offered to buy me breakfast.

 

[SaintGirl]

My biggest question is how was she planning to get home that morning if she texted she was coming. I would never ask anyone to give me a ride that was 50 miles away 100 miles round trip if you live in the Plano area. Who would volunteer for that if they don't live in that direction? I imagine a taxi would be very expensive and probably too expensive, so the maybe the only solution would be the train. It seems from the timing of the texts there was very little time between the texts being sent, and his car leaving the garage, just doesn't seem like enough time for a struggle to happen in between, so it seems willingly, but for what reason? The only other reason besides going to the train station that I can think of is if someone offered to buy me breakfast.

I think they had just eaten, right? Whataburger? Maybe he was taking her to her parents house in Allen? To get her keys, maybe?

 

[catpatrol]

Catpatrol: O/T - by the way your dragonfly photo seems to be going viral! We used on the public HFCM page...hope you don't mind. We may use also on some benefit flyers if that is ok with you?

Not a problem. Also, if there is anything else I can make to help let me know

 

[Lrc143]

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I have seen many cases on here where the ppl involved as withesses did not search.
I think its a wise decision.

If they are the one to find her or find evidence it all of a sudden become he or she found it because they did it...

I do think these ppl have legal advice and are heeding it!
I would also!
Just want to add I think they were speaking at first and then it all became silent.

ok, I can see your point a teeny tiny bit. But why they can't the spread flyer on facebook? Attend a vigil? call her parents? express concern? They fact that they aren't (according to the VI's) is very troubling to me. I am not saying they had anything to do with it (cause I think there is only one responsible and he's in hot water), but the lack of compassion is weird.

 

[Eight]

I would think she would have texted them too that she was coming, if that was her plan, but the text makes it sound like she was planning on going home.

 

[catpatrol]

I think getting a ride to her dad and stepmom's house is very plausible. That being said, I think that the other people at the party would have been aware of that plan when Christina and EA left that night. From the video we've seen (which I'm convinced is not all the video of Christina and EA together), they didn't appear to be having a conversation or interacting much as they walked to the garage, which leads me to believe they would have made that plan before they left the apartment that night.

 

[CrystalAnn]

What info can ya get from a phone that had been turned off or
Left unanswered?
What if the phone was left in a drawer for a few days.

Your not going to get any info.

Id love to know if his phone left his house? Ill bet it didn't!
but just because the phone is there does not mean he was.

JMO

You get all the texts and voice mails as soon as you turn on the phone, FYI.

So, like, all the info.

 

[JMOM]

IMO - I don't think she would have woken them at that time of the morning to come there. Maybe they have a secret key hidden for emergencies. They do still have a teenager at home. And I know with mine I have changed my locks about 10 times because they have lost theirs. So now, hidden with a code only they have. Just a thought.

I would think she would have texted them too that she was coming, if that was her plan, but the text makes it sound like she was planning on going home.

 

[JMOM]

That would be nice to know too.....hmmmmm darn "friends" - then maybe would have a better idea of the way they would have traveled?

I think getting a ride to her dad and stepmom's house is very plausible. That being said, I think that the other people at the party would have been aware of that plan when Christina and EA left that night. From the video we've seen (which I'm convinced is not all the video of Christina and EA together), they didn't appear to be having a conversation or interacting much as they walked to the garage, which leads me to believe they would have made that plan before they left the apartment that night.

 

[CookieM]

I would think she would have texted them too that she was coming, if that was her plan, but the text makes it sound like she was planning on going home.

Oh that's another good point! If she couldn't find her house key, and if she was getting a ride to her dad's house (which certainly could be a possibility IMO) wouldn't she alert them that she was planning to do so? It was 4am and her parents most likely would still be asleep. She may have had a key to the house, but would that have been with her other lost keys? There may be a spare key hidden around the house, or she might be able to enter via a garage key pad, but still, I don't know about you guys, but if I heard someone come into my house unannounced at 4 am I'd freak out. Some people also have alarms set. JMom, do you know if Christina communicated with her dad or Anna at all that evening?? You mentioned that you thought her going to her dad's could be a possibility.

 

[Lrc143]

Why is everyone so quick to brush off the one person she was fighting with?

Sure EA is is last to see her.
We have the friends she was partying with..
But there is one person she was fighting with and wouldn't answer her calls.
to me he should be added to this list also.

seems everyone knows everything about EA and her friends but nothing about HF and he is closest to the family.

All JMO

I think the search warrant being released had something to do with it. I admit that was at first very suspicious HF, and didn't really agree with the picketing, although I was pretty sure the family would not do that unless they knew more. But after all read all the facts of the warrant..well.... when I see the warrant on HF, maybe I'll swing back to him.

Also, I don't think this thread was quick to blame EA, I just think it snowballed when the facts were released.

 

[JMOM]

So I have a question, just to see what y'all think. Christina's phone, a friend just brought to my attention that there are kiosks or boxes, one at Stonebriar Mall she said. You can take a phone, not sure if just IPhone or what but you drop it in the box for cash? Has anyone used one of these ever and how does it work?

 

[Lrc143]

All JMO, but, I know many many 22/23 year olds (I have 3 kids this age. Their friends are always at my house) They spend weeks at a time in my house. And. I can honestly say...that not one of them would go FOUR days without a cell phone. Nothing will convince me of this. If, in fact, LE believes that HF has no activity on his phone for FOUR days...then, yes, I believe he had another phone. Additionally, IMO, there was a relationship of some sorts between HF and EA (and IMO CM).
I don't think this was the first time CM saw EA or her friends in months. If CM was so paranoid about something bad happening to her...why would she walk at 4 AM into a garage with a guy she didn't feel comfortable with, who, by others' accounts was a creeper. IMO None of this makes sense.

I personally believe that LE knows the activity of HF's phone for those four days. we have only heard that he did not officially report her missing, not if he tried calling her/friends she was with/EA's phone.

 

[Momoffourboys]

So I have a question, just to see what y'all think. Christina's phone, a friend just brought to my attention that there are kiosks or boxes, one at Stonebriar Mall she said. You can take a phone, not sure if just IPhone or what but you drop it in the box for cash? Has anyone used one of these ever and how does it work?

I wouldn't even get THAT complicated...I bought my son a phone for 10 bucks at target. 20 mins. No contract. No sign up. Disposable. I paid cash.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I personally believe that LE knows the activity of HF's phone for those four days. we have only heard that he did not officially report her missing, not if he tried calling her/friends she was with/EA's phone.

Respectfully, why would he try to call her, if 15 calls/texts to HIM from HER went unanswered?

 

[suzyjackson]

IMO - I don't think she would have woken them at that time of the morning to come there. Maybe they have a secret key hidden for emergencies. They do still have a teenager at home. And I know with mine I have changed my locks about 10 times because they have lost theirs. So now, hidden with a code only they have. Just a thought.

So was the post of the facebook page that said Christina had found her keys before she left the apartment not true?