GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #18 *Arrest*

[zippixx]

If that happened, IMO, she left with him willingly believing he was taking her wherever she had requested to go, and something started in the car and was continued outside of the car.

I envision them heading to her parents & possibly pulling over, or stopping somewhere, maybe to smoke a joint & he made a move at that point. I don't see him trying something while driving...

 

[txyorkiemom]

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/27432246/paradise-white-dismantles-texas-to-memphis-drug-ring

A reminder that behind the scenes of recreation drug use is a long, winding road of criminal activity - from TX to Memphis.

The illegal aspects are realistic and a possibility in cases just like CM's.
Thanks Mcluver!!

 

[Helen_Ready]

In the case of JM - I assume you are speaking about the Hannah Graham case - I believe we were dealing with an experienced criminal. By experienced I mean he had assaulted women before. He was in the process of choking his 2005 rape victim when someone came along and scared him off. He killed Morgan Harrington and put her body in a place where he could get to and not be seen from the road and her body wouldn't be found for a while. Same with Hannah Graham. In short, he already knew about these places in advance.

In this case, I don't believe that if Christina is no longer with us that it was premeditated. (I know you weren't comparing JM to EA, but I am using it since it was brought up.) If EA is the one, he is not experienced at this. He had no plan. He would probably believe he has very little time. If he is parked on the shoulder he either hides whatever he has to and gets back to his car as soon as possible. The evidence or Christina may not be far from the crime scene. Maybe only yards away. He has to do it in the dark.

I think if he committed the crime it isn't far from where he lives. It's the area where he would have committed the crime and it is the area he probably knows best. He would be a nervous wreck for the 4 days until she is reported missing. Then he has to wonder: What did I leave behind at the scene? What if it is easier to find in the day time than at night? I wish I had known I would have had more time to hide evidence. Assuming he did it, of course.

I hunted and fished for years by the time I was 23 years old. I knew of places where I could hide evidence and it wouldn't be found for some time. I haven't hunted in years and live in another area. I try to think where I would hide a body now and even with a calm mind and plenty of time to plan I'm at a loss. I want some place I can get to in without a 4-wheel drive and not be seen from the road. I don't want houses nearby where I might be seen or heard. I want someplace I can get to in an hour before the sun comes up. I can't come up with good places. And it isn't like we don't have rural areas near my city. And I ride miles of them on bicycle - daily in the spring thru the summer.

If EA did this, he has made many mistakes and I believe LE has uncovered some that they haven't told us about yet. JM was an experienced predator and he got caught. Whoever did this will be caught as well.

I believe your right, hence the new search in Allen and I do believe sooner than later we'll have some more insight. EA might not be 100% the option all are considering, but considering a few things I've heard at fundraisers and such, it's not likely it could be anyone else. I hope the other news comes out or is open for discussion soon. Your privy to hearing and knowing more when present and I am appreciate of JMOM and Carltonsance as they are well aware of what can and can't be discussed and are able to handle in a manner We may not agree with because they can't come out and say and now I have a better understanding why![/QUOTE]
Thank you Cindy for sharing. We waited for many threads for information from the PPD. Before the information was released by PPD, we tossed around different scenarios. Back then we didn't have any VI's. Now we have information from the PPD and VI's. The PPD are unbiased professionals trying to get to the truth. It is hard to believe when we finally get information from PPD that it is steered away from the facts at hand. IMO....if I were legal council I'd get on here and steer away those getting to the truth..I'm not saying this has occurred...I'm just saying if I was defending someone and the PPD was getting to the truth I'd work hard in any way I could to get people to think my client was innocent. I'd set up as a poster and hide behind a computer to keep up with what is being said online. Unfortunately. I'd make a terrible criminal defense attorney. There is not enough money in the world to defend someone knowing he is guilty...not speaking about anyone in particular. This is all Jmo....I'm was just thinking out loud if I were an attorney...not pointing any fingers at anyone.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I know you have asked about his hobbies, interests, etc. several times. I think you make a good point in trying to ascertain where he is most comfortable, where his hang-outs are, etc. We actually do know very little about him IMO.

Yes .. I would like to know about his close circle of friends as well. I understood in one of the interviews there was mention of going to the Church.I would wonder also if he attended services on 8-31-14? Does he socialize with any of the other young adults there??
Who are his close circle of friends and their associations??

What about the other PLAYERS?? same questions for them as well.

 

[jnblsm]

Yes I recall that he attended Allen High (as opposed to Plano)

I thought so also. But the VI said Plano. [emoji48]

 

[TCMom]

Yes .. I would like to know about his close circle of friends as well. <respectfully snipped by me>
Who are his close circle of friends and their associations?? <respectfully snipped by me again>

I think it's very interesting that there has been very little, if any, public support for EA. No one is coming out defending him as a "good guy" or saying they've been "friends forever" or saying "he would never do something like this." Other than Accion America - who I think wanted some publicity of their own. Maybe I've missed it, but I think that's very telling. I've seen nothing on SM in defense of EA except maybe one or two people that don't really seem to know him but are defending him for whatever reason.

Christina has an army.

If Enrique is completely innocent, where's his army?

 

[zippixx]

I think it's very interesting that there has been very little, if any, public support for EA. No one is coming out defending him as a "good guy" or saying they've been "friends forever" or saying "he would never do something like this." Other than Accion America - who I think wanted some publicity of their own. Maybe I've missed it, but I think that's very telling. I've seen nothing on SM in defense of EA except maybe one or two people that don't really seem to know him but are defending him for whatever reason.

Christina has an army.

If Enrique is completely innocent, where's his army?

I kept meaning to mention the same thing. I have seen zero support for EA...

 

[Jennifer]

I think the most "logical" thing that could have happened based on the evidence is that Christina left with EA intentionally for the purpose of getting drugs. Then she accidentally overdoses. (Is it possible that Christina could have taken drugs at the party, been fine walking to her/EA's car, then died of an overdose in his car?? Maybe she had a seizure or something that really freaked EA out and he called someone from the party??) I think EA's injuries would have been from disposal of the body and carrying the body and going into an area where he could have tripped on the brush. Could the damage to his car have come from driving off the road/over a curb to dispose of the body? The only thing I can think of that doesn't fit in this scenario is the alleged bite mark. But I take what his coworkers said with a grain of salt. If the bite mark was there when police interviewed him they should have seen it. Maybe the coworker was mistaken or caught up in the "excitement" of the police coming to talk to him about his former manager's possible involvement in a murder. Just my opinion.

 

[hibiscus31]

I think it's very interesting that there has been very little, if any, public support for EA. No one is coming out defending him as a "good guy" or saying they've been "friends forever" or saying "he would never do something like this." Other than Accion America - who I think wanted some publicity of their own. Maybe I've missed it, but I think that's very telling. I've seen nothing on SM in defense of EA except maybe one or two people that don't really seem to know him but are defending him for whatever reason.

Christina has an army.

If Enrique is completely innocent, where's his army?

Good point. People are wondering why the friends are so quiet and not speaking up for CM...well, they aren't exactly climbing on rooftops to proclaim EA's innocence. In fact, the main things I've seen about him in both MM and SM are negative.

 

[hibiscus31]

I think the most "logical" thing that could have happened based on the evidence is that Christina left with EA intentionally for the purpose of getting drugs. Then she accidentally overdoses. (Is it possible that Christina could have taken drugs at the party, been fine walking to her/EA's car, then died of an overdose in his car?? Maybe she had a seizure or something that really freaked EA out and he called someone from the party??) I think EA's injuries would have been from disposal of the body and carrying the body and going into an area where he could have tripped on the brush. Could the damage to his car have come from driving off the road/over a curb to dispose of the body? The only thing I can think of that doesn't fit in this scenario is the alleged bite mark. But I take what his coworkers said with a grain of salt. If the bite mark was there when police interviewed him they should have seen it. Maybe the coworker was mistaken or caught up in the "excitement" of the police coming to talk to him about his former manager's possible involvement in a murder. Just my opinion.

I already linked to an article where officer Tilley said he was aware of the bite mark...so PPD did in fact acknowledge it.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I think the most "logical" thing that could have happened based on the evidence is that Christina left with EA intentionally for the purpose of getting drugs. Then she accidentally overdoses. (Is it possible that Christina could have taken drugs at the party, been fine walking to her/EA's car, then died of an overdose in his car?? Maybe she had a seizure or something that really freaked EA out and he called someone from the party??) I think EA's injuries would have been from disposal of the body and carrying the body and going into an area where he could have tripped on the brush. Could the damage to his car have come from driving off the road/over a curb to dispose of the body? The only thing I can think of that doesn't fit in this scenario is the alleged bite mark. But I take what his coworkers said with a grain of salt. If the bite mark was there when police interviewed him they should have seen it. Maybe the coworker was mistaken or caught up in the "excitement" of the police coming to talk to him about his former manager's possible involvement in a murder. Just my opinion.

This is a very plausible opinion and may have legs... I actually have thought along this path too!!

 

[hibiscus31]

Here is the article acknowledging the bite mark
. It does also say that EA and CM were classmates at Allen, not Plano...
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/11/04/6259573/warrant-man-lied-in-missing-fort.html

 

[CuriousinNY]

There have been mention of possible prior arrests for EA? Can that be confirmed and is that sleuthable?

 

[CuriousinNY]

I don't know if it will help at all but we havent discussed the timeline of how the police were notified that Christina was missing. Her boss called her dad, I think. What time? Dad called HF, I would think. It sounded like these events started in the morning but I thought the report wasnt made until the evening. I could be totally wrong! There have been several mentions of her boss. Was he on facebook? How did people know who he was? Is he still involved now?

 

[txyorkiemom]

I think it's very interesting that there has been very little, if any, public support for EA. No one is coming out defending him as a "good guy" or saying they've been "friends forever" or saying "he would never do something like this." Other than Accion America - who I think wanted some publicity of their own. Maybe I've missed it, but I think that's very telling. I've seen nothing on SM in defense of EA except maybe one or two people that don't really seem to know him but are defending him for whatever reason.

Christina has an army.

If Enrique is completely innocent, where's his army?

I kept meaning to mention the same thing. I have seen zero support for EA...

I agree...
I am still wondering why PPD has not filed charges for the Interference of Public Duty ?? Perhaps they do not have enough or because he did not try to run or refuse to come to the PPD station for interviews ..IDK

 

[txyorkiemom]

I don't know if it will help at all but we havent discussed the timeline of how the police were notified that Christina was missing. Her boss called her dad, I think. What time? Dad called HF, I would think. It sounded like these events started in the morning but I thought the report wasnt made until the evening. I could be totally wrong! There have been several mentions of her boss. Was he on facebook? How did people know who he was? Is he still involved now?

CM Boss- is a She. and per TOS we can not discuss
Boss notified CM Contact Listed-a female not her parents
her friend then contacted HF -she was not there
the friend then started calling and reached the parents

 

[Doj1234]

Here is the article acknowledging the bite mark
. It does also say that EA and CM were classmates at Allen, not Plano...
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/11/04/6259573/warrant-man-lied-in-missing-fort.html

I believe that it was HF that Carlton said went to Plano. Until he misses an open shot, I'm going with what Carlton says.

The things that I've read about EA have been negative. I see him as a guy who is working through the realization of NOT being the apple of his fathers eye, that of course is his brother, the college athlete. Just look at the picture of their family, the tweets by the father, etc.. EA, IMO, either snapped because he had pent up aggression and frustration or he was a budding pharmacist and he didn't take CM's 95#'s into consideration when mixing an rx cocktail.

 

[frisson]

I'm not sure I understand what EA's friends or family are supposed to be defending since he hasn't been accused or charged with harming Christina. Also, imo, not everyone seeks the attention of being on tv etc.

 

[zippixx]

I think the most "logical" thing that could have happened based on the evidence is that Christina left with EA intentionally for the purpose of getting drugs. Then she accidentally overdoses. (Is it possible that Christina could have taken drugs at the party, been fine walking to her/EA's car, then died of an overdose in his car?? Maybe she had a seizure or something that really freaked EA out and he called someone from the party??) I think EA's injuries would have been from disposal of the body and carrying the body and going into an area where he could have tripped on the brush. Could the damage to his car have come from driving off the road/over a curb to dispose of the body? The only thing I can think of that doesn't fit in this scenario is the alleged bite mark. But I take what his coworkers said with a grain of salt. If the bite mark was there when police interviewed him they should have seen it. Maybe the coworker was mistaken or caught up in the "excitement" of the police coming to talk to him about his former manager's possible involvement in a murder. Just my opinion.

Interesting scenario that I also thought of awhile back, but not now. I've done yard work in heavily brushed areas many times & have come away with cuts & scrapes, but never any bruises (and of course bite mark).. Recently, (I believe it was Carltondance), implied that EA's condition was possibly from the result of someone battling for their life in a possible headlock. That makes much more sense to me..

 

[Jennifer]

Here is the article acknowledging the bite mark
. It does also say that EA and CM were classmates at Allen, not Plano...
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/11/04/6259573/warrant-man-lied-in-missing-fort.html

Thanks, I didn't realize the police had seen the bite mark. I just feel that that would really be the only question mark I have for an overdose scenario. But I still think an overdose or bad reaction to drugs is a reasonable explanation. I have a hard time seeing EA being aggressive/attacking CM. He seems much more passive, but that's just my opinion. I feel like he has been put in a bad situation where bad decisions were made and he thinks he is in too deep to tell the truth.