GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #18 *Arrest*

[zippixx]

What drugs would cause you to die from an overdose 1/2 hour or more after ingesting?

Heroin

 

[MzOpinion8d]

BBM WOW!
I have gone back thru postings since yesterday afternoon and do not see any thing that fits these 2 descriptions,which IMO seem a bit unfair and biased to posters beliefs and opinions.
Why again is it again the terminology selected to address those with opposite viewpoints being of "Argumentative" & "Disrespect" being brought up when it is absolutely not warranted. It seems that every time it is ..it exacerbates some insignificant comment,misinterpretation of wording,idea or question from perhaps hours or a day ago.. Why continue to incite conflict when it is not needed.
The fact is from the day that CM's case was posted up until the picketing began there was ZERO insinuations of negative behavior on this case.
I can only guess that is because some of us took and have a strong stance on that and it has carried over with perceptions that some how we are are the un-welcomed here.
IIRC I remember welcoming many to this case to interact.
JMO~

I know I've seen quite a few posts disappear, so that's possibly why the tone of the board seems less controversial when someone reads it later. The mods are on this board monitoring and cleaning up pretty consistently.

I don't care to quote or refer to any posts in particular but there are frequent requests for links from the VIs when it has been made clear they don't have to provide them. Some are from new posters and that's understandable, but I have repeatedly seen people who have been here all along ask for the links. To me that's being argumentative and disrespectful. Which is of course my opinion and interpretation only.

I don't think everyone should all have the same thoughts, but there are certain things that are established info that I feel should be respected. One thing in particular is that both VIs have said that to the extent that anyone can be cleared in this situation, HF has been cleared. And technically per TOS he can't be sleuthed anyway.

Also, it's frustrating when people say they don't see why many believe EA is involved but don't back up their thoughts with explanations for all the info that makes EA suspicious. If he isn't involved, then why did he lie to police about:
walking into the garage with CM
letting CM use his phone to call and or text HF
saying he didn't even talk to CM at all on the 15-20 min walk
which route he took home?

Why did he show up on video at 10:15 am when he was supposed to be at work?
Why did he have a limp?
Why did he have visible injuries?
Why was there fresh body damage to his car?
Why did he wipe the phone he was using that night back to factory reset?
Why was he vacuuming his car while at work?
Why was he spot cleaning his passenger door and trunk while at the gas station?
Why didn't his parents know he was in jail for a week?
Why did he hire a death penalty certified defense attorney for a charge of a stolen phone?

I personally am interested in discussing these questions because I don't understand how it all ties together but it sure does look bad for EA to have all these unanswered questions out there. I think there's still a possibility of involvement of other people but can't quite figure out how.

 

[margarita25]

Here is the article acknowledging the bite mark
. It does also say that EA and CM were classmates at Allen, not Plano...
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/11/04/6259573/warrant-man-lied-in-missing-fort.html

Thanks for the link.

"The employee noticed that Arochi had a bite mark on his arm, and Arochi explained that he had been bitten during a fight the previous night, according to the affidavit.

Plano police officer David Tilley, a department spokesman, said he wanted to stress that Arochi has not been charged with anything and that the matter is still being investigated as a missing-persons case.

“I know a lot of people are frustrated,” Tilley said. “But this is not at all an easy case to investigate. Because No. 1, it’s not like we have a body, and 2 it’s not like we have a known crime that took place. Ariel Castro, Amanda Berry, Elizabeth Smart — everyone wrote them off for dead and they were not.”

Tilley said Tuesday that he was aware of the bite mark on Arochi’s arm but that he could not discuss whether the mark left an imprint that police could use to match with Morris’ dental records."

 

[Helen_Ready]

I'm not sure I understand what EA's friends or family are supposed to be defending since he hasn't been accused or charged with harming Christina. Also, imo, not everyone seeks the attention of being on tv etc.

Could they come to his defense when he has been accused of lying???

 

[txyorkiemom]

What drugs would cause you to die from an overdose 1/2 hour or more after ingesting?

Bad mix in the Molly(also made and or mixed with Heroin) .. girl in Austin went into seizures and cardiac arrest in less than 20min..stayed on life support for 3 days then died that was with EMS assistance

 

[Helen_Ready]

I know I've seen quite a few posts disappear, so that's possibly why the tone of the board seems less controversial when someone reads it later. The mods are on this board monitoring and cleaning up pretty consistently.

I don't care to quote or refer to any posts in particular but there are frequent requests for links from the VIs when it has been made clear they don't have to provide them. Some are from new posters and that's understandable, but I have repeatedly seen people who have been here all along ask for the links. To me that's being argumentative and disrespectful. Which is of course my opinion and interpretation only.

I don't think everyone should all have the same thoughts, but there are certain things that are established info that I feel should be respected. One thing in particular is that both VIs have said that to the extent that anyone can be cleared in this situation, HF has been cleared. And technically per TOS he can't be sleuthed anyway.

Also, it's frustrating when people say they don't see why many believe EA is involved but don't back up their thoughts with explanations for all the info that makes EA suspicious. If he isn't involved, then why did he lie to police about:
walking into the garage with CM
letting CM use his phone to call and or text HF
saying he didn't even talk to CM at all on the 15-20 min walk
which route he took home?

Why did he show up on video at 10:15 am when he was supposed to be at work?
Why did he have a limp?
Why did he have visible injuries?
Why was there fresh body damage to his car?
Why did he wipe the phone he was using that night back to factory reset?
Why was he vacuuming his car while at work?
Why was he spot cleaning his passenger door and trunk while at the gas station?
Why didn't his parents know he was in jail for a week?
Why did he hire a death penalty certified defense attorney for a charge of a stolen phone?

I personally am interested in discussing these questions because I don't understand how it all ties together but it sure does look bad for EA to have all these unanswered questions out there. I think there's still a possibility of involvement of other people but can't quite figure out how.

Yes, that's a great place for discussions on here. Explanations for everything you listed above...I'd entertain discussions of why u think he lied...etc...everything MzOpinion8d listed in his post.

 

[margarita25]

I have approached the scenario with her walking alone (no EA at all) to her car. With the camera coverage seeming sketchy and/or not great, could she have been grabbed and taken down a stairwell, put into another car that did not leave the garage until much later the next day & just because someone is "security" doesn't mean they don't commit crimes (I thought I saw where they cleared the other cars because they were security). I have tried & tried to think of plausible way CM would have left the garage and my thoughts keep coming back to leaving with EA in the car. I think she felt comfortable enough to go. I don't think she had any intention of doing anything but getting home. If there were drugs involved earlier in the evening, I think at the 3:30am -4am point, that was over. Both seem very stable walking in the garage. Shift back to EA and the car - "If" he vacuumed & cleaned his car the next morning, to me that is very weird even if you are obsessed with your car. Who's first instinct the next morning after a hard night of partying, no or little sleep and a hangover would be to turn on a vacuum or scrub their car? Also, I am a mom of 6 girls with only a 14 year old left at home. No matter where she is, she is on her phone and always knows that she only has "x"% left on her battery. She immediately uses her charger or borrows one before it goes dead. It is likely that CM zapped her battery life texting HF, but I believe someone would have been able to provide her the means to charge her phone. Also, if she lost her keys during the course of the night, I am certain that the others would have known and possibly helped look for them. She would have said, hey has anyone seen my keys, I think I left my keys at 'x's. EA may have found & kept the keys and then offered the ride. We still don't know if she didn't have car keys or just a house key. But most people keep them together on one ring. I think EA was supposed to be taking her to her Dad's. Just because she said leave the door open didn't mean she was coming home to FTW right then. She may have known that HF had to work in the am and didn't want to be locked out when she did arrive. Does anyone know if the dent in is car was shown on any video of him entering the garage? If he got the damage fixed so quickly, when did he call the garage? Most body repair shops don't get you in right away. If he didn't have money for a phone of his own, then how did he pay for the repairs? Drug sales? My theory on the car damage "if" it happened that morning is that CM realized that he was not taking her the right way and she grabbed the wheel causing him to hit something. If so, he may have lost his temper and accidentally killed her (when SA was the original intent).

Welcome Runtscal

:welcome5:

 

[margarita25]

Re: the lack of support for EA, I've seen many times here just the opposite (for example Gabe Gaeta, the "Gentle Giant".) There's usually someone who says "Him? Noooo way, he wouldn't do that...."

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I briefly thought about the OD theory, but once again... bruises, limp, bite mark, vacuum, car wash.. just doesn't fit in.

I agree with you on that, and just in general can't make sense of the injuries. If she was fighting him that hard in the car (possible based on visible injuries to his right side and car damage that could have been caused because the fight made him wreck), then my question is what caused her to freak out and go into fight mode while they were driving? He couldn't have been trying to sexually assault her while he was driving.

It's been suggested his injuries are consistent with putting someone in a headlock. Could that be done inside a car like his? And again, if the fight was in this car, what started it?

If they were fighting outside the car, then that makes SA more likely, but then what caused the damage to the car?

I need a missing puzzle piece here!!!

 

[Mamamerced]

Heroin

But I don't think you can walk for 20 minutes or so and seem fine (at least on a 6 second video) and then suddenly OD.
Do you?

 

[margarita25]

I tried looks like it was that way from previous person and when I added it didn't fix. Wonder why?

Maybe our kind mods can be kind enough fix this when they get a chance, as it seems to have carried over many in quoted posts, not just yours.

 

[margarita25]

So, imo, the warrant speaks volumes, all the LIES, and particularly the part about traveling in a different direction. Why lie about which way you traveled? Obviously because that direction could be considered inconsistent with the direction one would take to go home? Or because you don't what LE to know which direction you actually did travel because that would be the direction of the crime scene?

Could EA say he was drunk so accidentally took a wrong turn going home? If so, would he have been captured on camera if making a directional correction to his route?

 

[Helen_Ready]

I attest to this as well ... as well as his resume and numerous other types of head-shots

Can you share with us more about his resume. I'm very interested in what you know and how you know it. Thank you.

 

[zippixx]

I agree with you on that, and just in general can't make sense of the injuries. If she was fighting him that hard in the car (possible based on visible injuries to his right side and car damage that could have been caused because the fight made him wreck), then my question is what caused her to freak out and go into fight mode while they were driving? He couldn't have been trying to sexually assault her while he was driving.

It's been suggested his injuries are consistent with putting someone in a headlock. Could that be done inside a car like his? And again, if the fight was in this car, what started it?

If they were fighting outside the car, then that makes SA more likely, but then what caused the damage to the car?

I need a missing puzzle piece here!!!

I would imagine EA wasn't in a very attentive frame of mind that evening. He could have hit a retaining wall en route to hiding CM or hit a tree or any number of obstacles in an attempt to hide her... In the big picture, even if the car was not damaged I think everything else paints the same picture.. of course, JMO!

 

[Momoffourboys]

But I don't think you can walk for 20 minutes or so and seem fine (at least on a 6 second video) and then suddenly OD.
Do you?

Very possible.
Also, reactions to different drugs vary AND drugs from each shipment vary.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

About the bite mark:
IIRC, EA said in one of the media interviews that he allowed them to photograph him with his shirt off. I assume the photos would have been of head, arms, neck and torso. So there may be evidence of the bite mark. However, since the police had not 100% verified it was a bite mark but had a witness saying they say a bite mark, they went with that info for the search warrant because it was enough evidence to support their case at that point. I am guessing they have evidence to support or disprove the bite mark by now but of course it's not being released because it won't be relevant until charges are brought.

 

[margarita25]

My question is if EA needed help with a body, to whom would he turn? Just a thought.

 

[jnblsm]

HF absolutely went to Allen High. I'd post his yearbook photo as proof but I know that's against TOS.

No matter what I say right now, I'm going to get blasted.

 

[Latestforever]

What drugs would cause you to die from an overdose 1/2 hour or more after ingesting and you seem fine during that 1/2+ hour?

I don't know what type of adderall EA was taking(and possibly dished out) but there is an XR(extended release). Link: http://www.drugs.com/cdi/adderall-xr-extended-release-capsules.html
"Adderall XR extended-release capsules has a high potential for abuse and may be habit-forming if used for a long period of time. Use Adderall XR extended-release capsules only as prescribed and do not share it with others. Abuse of Adderall XR extended-release capsules may cause serious heart problems, blood vessel problems, or sudden death."

 

[margarita25]

Not saying this is the case, but also want to mention "spice" (synthetic marijuana)...been hearing lots of really bad things about serious effects lately (more to do with delusional behavior, psychosis etc, not death). But if he provided her with it, and she had a bad reaction...
thinking about this further, I find chances of this being related slim, lol, but who knows. Just mentioning it for discussions sake re drugs / brainstorming/thinking out loud. One can still get prosecuted down there for providing weed, right?

I keep coming back to SA as the possible motive, if not a heroin overdose...