GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #19 *Arrest*

[frisson]

Without wanting to make a broad generalization, Hispanic families (esp when they live at home) are very close. I am sure he told them he was somewhere just not the truth...

Forgive me, but that is a broad generalization, imo. All families of any culture are not the same.

 

[ShellockHolmes]

Wanted to start this week with some positive vibes....and show some love for the family. Please God, let today be the day Christina comes home!

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[frisson]

Just thinking about something. Christina was missing for four days with no contact with HF and he didn't find that odd. That is there thing. Many said this isn't a big deal either. So EA goes 3 addl days from not talking or seeing his parents. I am not understand the difference? What is 3 extra days? If we want to justify what HF thought maybe his parents also thought he was with friends or his girlfriend. I just don't see questioning his parents not calling/worrying or be lying and then not do the same for HF. Jmo

I don't think either absense would be normal behavior in my mind and I would be worried about both.

Yes. THIS ^^^

I completely agree with you. We are to accept that HF and CM had their "thing" (habit) as in having no contact for days is customary at times. But we are to assume that EA was lying to some members of his family for doing the same with a 3 day difference? He has friends. He has a gf. How do we know that that wasn't their (Arochi family's) "thing" as well? Or because he lied to LE about something that he lies about everything in life all the time forever? People lie. It's not good. Lying to police is even worse. It doesn't mean that someone automatically lies to their family though or about everything, always -imo. Also, making the leap from lying to becoming a kidnapper and murderer doesn't automatically compute for me either.

Additionally, imo, If EA needs to be dragged over the coals for illegal drug involvement (if there is any) then all in this group with drug involvement should be held accountable as well, imo.

Also, every employee who ever took a phone off of Sprint's property without express permission should have been dealt with too. The cherry picking in the media and elsewhere is what confuses me.

 

[suzyjackson]

She has an iPhone, based on pix. He could've had anything.

We also know EA has the gold galaxy so not the same charger.

LE have confirmed the last trace of Christina's phone was at the Shops

 

[JMOM]

Cherry picking? What do you mean?

EA was the last person seen with Christina. She has not been seen or heard from since he walked in the parking garage with her. He lied about even speaking to her on the walk from the apartment and pretty much everything else concerning his whereabouts and activities from time he walked with her to the time he got to work 3 hours late. IMO that isn't cherry picking that is bringing to light that something here is amiss. Christina is the victim, her family and friends are the victims here. Let's keep everything in perspective shall we.

I could care less about anyone's drug involvement to be completely honest. I want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If people want to sell and take drugs so be it that is their choice to ruin their lives, I could care less. But I want to know what happened to Christina and if we have to cherry pick, picket, scream, be loud, we will be. IMO there is no cherry picking going on, the facts are the facts. He could stop the entire thing by telling the truth. And if he didn't do it so be it. But he makes himself look guilty by his actions IMO. And if he didn't do it, then he needs to fess up and tell who did. But I think he did it. I think he knows exactly where she is and what happened to her. And we WILL find her. We will not give up not today, tomorrow, or ever. However long it takes we will keep searching until she is home where she belongs.

Forgive me, but that is a broad generalization, imo. All families of any culture are not the same.

 

[Eileen730]

Please tell me what I said that I saw with my own two eyes that you are referring to?

Also, facts come from the affidavit and warrant that yes I read with my own two eyes. Facts come from Jonni, my friend, who happens to know a lot more than apparently you think she does. She is super involved in her daughters case. I search every day, I know what I am looking for and what I am not looking for. So yes I know a lot. And for the record, I have never spoken to the Sprint guy.

We were talking about car damage and your post was think we might be taking his comment wrong. I know what the damage looks like and I can tell you this. He didn't hit something head on at a high rate of speed and damage his car horribly, however he didn't cause the damage by punching his car. The damage is/was bad enough that LE took it to be looked at by a professional to see if his story added up and as we know it didn't. It is not just a little dent either. It is/was bad enough that is very noticeable and wasn't there when his vehicle left the parking garage. That is all I will say about it because that information has not been released

 

[JMOM]

Thank you so much! I needed to see that. :loveyou:

Wanted to start this week with some positive vibes....and show some love for the family. Please God, let today be the day Christina comes home!
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[JMOM]

I do know what the damage looks like.

We were talking about car damage and your post was think we might be taking his comment wrong. I know what the damage looks like and I can tell you this. He didn't hit something head on at a high rate of speed and damage his car horribly, however he didn't cause the damage by punching his car. The damage is/was bad enough that LE took it to be looked at by a professional to see if his story added up and as we know it didn't. It is not just a little dent either. It is/was bad enough that is very noticeable and wasn't there when his vehicle left the parking garage. That is all I will say about it because that information has not been released

 

[hockeymom4]

Well being a parent myself and 2 of my children still live at home, if one of them didn't come home or make contact with me for a day, there would be an issue. However I do have a son out of high school, and if he and his gf got in an argument and he didn't speak with her, I wouldn't necessarily be concerned about that.

I get your point, Hunter should have checked on Christina, and I know for a fact, he knows that as well. She doesn't live with her parents, it was a holiday weekend, Jonni knew that Christina had plans that weekend. It wasn't a spur of the moment trip to Plano or to PP apartment. I also have a daughter that is grown, married, and has a child of her own. I talk to her several times a week, but if she had plans to be gone and didn't call me for a few days I wouldn't panic over it. She does that. She's grown and has a life of her own. But that is just me and JMO

My point is there is a double standard here. We are excusing the behavior of one, while even possible accusing the other of lying. We don't know what she told HF, just like we don't know what he told his parents. What we do know is she was gone from her home from 4 days no call and text and he was for 3 extra days. I find it very hypocritical to excuse one behavior and not the other. But that is me. Know, you know more than we do, so I understand why you may feel differently.

 

[suzyjackson]

Yes. THIS ^^^

I completely agree with you. We are to accept that HF and CM had their "thing" (habit) as in having no contact for days is customary at times. But we are to assume that EA was lying to some members of his family for doing the same with a 3 day difference? He has friends. He has a gf. How do we know that that wasn't their (Arochi family's) "thing" as well? Or because he lied to LE about something that he lies about everything in life all the time forever? People lie. It's not good. Lying to police is even worse. It doesn't mean that someone automatically lies to their family though or about everything, always -imo. Also, making the leap from lying to becoming a kidnapper and murderer doesn't automatically compute for me either.

Additionally, imo, If EA needs to be dragged over the coals for illegal drug involvement (if there is any) then all in this group with drug involvement should be held accountable as well, imo.

Also, every employee who ever took a phone off of Sprint's property without express permission should have been dealt with too. The cherry picking in the media and elsewhere is what confuses me.

With respect a 20 something not very longstanding couple who live together is a very different dynamic to a son who lives with his parents. I'm surprised that EA's parents didn't wonder where he was but maybe he gave them some other reason he wasn't their - training course or other work related absence maybe JMO

I think it's the pattern of lies and inconsistencies that make people suspicious of EA, not one lie or action on its own IMO

I totally agree with you that any drug consequences should be bourne by everyone involved, if there were any drugs that it

 

[SaintGirl]

I think we might be taking his comment wrong. I know what the damage looks like and I can tell you this. He didn't hit something head on at a high rate of speed and damage his car horribly, however he didn't cause the damage by punching his car. The damage is/was bad enough that LE took it to be looked at by a professional to see if his story added up and as we know it didn't. It is not just a little dent either. It is/was bad enough that is very noticeable and wasn't there when his vehicle left the parking garage. That is all I will say about it because that information has not been released.

With what you have both described it sounds like he did hit a retaining wall. i.e. there are probably scrapes, as well as a dent IMO. Scrapes usually don't come about from someone punching the car. IMO he swerved into a retaining wall. How could that happen? Certainly a fight, someone grabbing the wheel, or swerving due to being intoxicated or texting and not paying attention. MOO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Forgive me, but that is a broad generalization, imo. All families of any culture are not the same.

Ok. So be it. I am part of one of those families and majority of Spanish/Hispanic cultures are extremely close. Throw tomatoes at me if you want lol

 

[catpatrol]

My point is there is a double standard here. We are excusing the behavior of one, while even possible accusing the other of lying. We don't know what she told HF, just like we don't know what he told his parents. What we do know is she was gone from her home from 4 days no call and text and he was for 3 extra days. I find it very hypocritical to excuse one behavior and not the other. But that is me. Know, you know more than we do, so I understand why you may feel differently.

Respectfully, we don't need to know that EA wasn't truthful to his family about his jailtime to determine that EA is a liar. That's in black and white in the warrant. Additionally, it's well established here that HF was an inconsiderate boyfriend for not being concerned about Christina. There's no excusing of HF's behavior in my mind. I think he is a jerk, quite frankly, for not checking on Christina after she was upset that night and he should have wondered why she wasn't home. That being said, I see this whole comparison between the 4 days that HF didn't contact Christina and the week that EA was in jail to be a huge diversion against the real issues at hand here. JMO

ETA: It has been hinted at that HF actually did try to contact Christina in those 4 days, but that information has not been released. It has also been hinted at that HF attempted to call EA's phone (since Christina tried calling him from that #)

 

[JMOM]

Hunter's phone has been analyzed by LE, both of Christina's parents have read the text messages and listened to all of the voicemails on his phone. And how does anyone know if he tried to contact Christina in those 4 days? You don't, because that hasn't been released. The way I see it it's pretty apparent that LE doesn't consider him a POI or a suspect. They aren't releasing anything about him. Because he cooperated and told the truth. IMO

No double standard at all IMO, EA lied lied lied, even when the truth would have sounded better. Then he went on interviews and lied. He brought this on himself, he could stop the entire thing if he would be honest and tell what happened. I don't feel sorry for him in the least. That is just how I feel about it. I understand others may feel differently and that is fine everyone has the right to their opinion.

My point is there is a double standard here. We are excusing the behavior of one, while even possible accusing the other of lying. We don't know what she told HF, just like we don't know what he told his parents. What we do know is she was gone from her home from 4 days no call and text and he was for 3 extra days. I find it very hypocritical to excuse one behavior and not the other. But that is me. Know, you know more than we do, so I understand why you may feel differently.

 

[Eileen730]

I do know what the damage looks like.

Ok that's why I said you saw it with your own 2 eyes.
We have a known verified fact.

 

[SaintGirl]

With respect a 20 something not very longstanding couple who live together is a very different dynamic to a son who lives with his parents. I'm surprised that EA's parents didn't wonder where he was but maybe he gave them some other reason he wasn't their - training course or other work related absence maybe JMO

I think it's the pattern of lies and inconsistencies that make people suspicious of EA, not one lie or action on its own IMO

I totally agree with you that any drug consequences should be bourne by everyone involved, if there were any drugs that it

Agreed

 

[frisson]

Cherry picking? What do you mean?

EA was the last person seen with Christina. She has not been seen or heard from since he walked in the parking garage with her. He lied about even speaking to her on the walk from the apartment and pretty much everything else concerning his whereabouts and activities from time he walked with her to the time he got to work 3 hours late. IMO that isn't cherry picking that is bringing to light that something here is amiss. Christina is the victim, her family and friends are the victims here. Let's keep everything in perspective shall we.

I could care less about anyone's drug involvement to be completely honest. I want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If people want to sell and take drugs so be it that is their choice to ruin their lives, I could care less. But I want to know what happened to Christina and if we have to cherry pick, picket, scream, be loud, we will be. IMO there is no cherry picking going on, the facts are the facts. He could stop the entire thing by telling the truth. And if he didn't do it so be it. But he makes himself look guilty by his actions IMO. And if he didn't do it, then he needs to fess up and tell who did. But I think he did it. I think he knows exactly where she is and what happened to her. And we WILL find her. We will not give up not today, tomorrow, or ever. However long it takes we will keep searching until she is home where she belongs.

JMOM, I was not referring to you. I was jumping off Hockeymom's post.

I do think drugs can be a pertinent factor in missing persons cases, as well as romantic relationships, frame of mind, and many other things.

I, too, want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

My point is, what if EA IS telling the truth that he did not harm Christina nor does he know what happened to her or where she is?

 

[Eileen730]

Hunter's phone has been analyzed by LE, both of Christina's parents have read the text messages and listened to all of the voicemails on his phone. And how does anyone know if he tried to contact Christina in those 4 days? You don't, because that hasn't been released. The way I see it it's pretty apparent that LE doesn't consider him a POI or a suspect. They aren't releasing anything about him. Because he cooperated and told the truth. IMO

No double standard at all IMO, EA lied lied lied, even when the truth would have sounded better. Then he went on interviews and lied. He brought this on himself, he could stop the entire thing if he would be honest and tell what happened. I don't feel sorry for him in the least. That is just how I feel about it. I understand others may feel differently and that is fine everyone has the right to their opinion.

His phone does not place him somewhere if he left it at home and went out.
what will the phone prove?
she called him he called her she text him he didn't text her.

Id just like to know where he was and who saw him.

 

[catpatrol]

JMOM, I was not referring to you. I was jumping off Hockeymom's post.

I do think drugs can be a pertinent factor in missing persons cases, as well as romantic relationships, frame of mind, and many other things.

I, too, want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

My point is, what if EA IS telling the truth that he did not harm Christina nor does he know what happened to her or where she is?

Then he shouldn't have interfered and slowed the investigation with lies from the beginning. He's lost his opportunity to be trusted, IMO

 

[JMOM]

I think you are correct. Inconsiderate boyfriend, Christina deserves better. However, how do we know he didn't try to contact Christina or EA for that matter in those 4 days?

Respectfully, we don't need to know that EA wasn't truthful to his family about his jailtime to determine that EA is a liar. That's in black and white in the warrant. Additionally, it's well established here that HF was an inconsiderate boyfriend for not being concerned about Christina. There's no excusing of HF's behavior in my mind. I think he is a jerk, quite frankly, for not checking on Christina after she was upset that night and he should have wondered why she wasn't home. That being said, I see this whole comparison between the 4 days that HF didn't contact Christina and the week that EA was in jail to be a huge diversion against the real issues at hand here. JMO