GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #19 *Arrest*

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  • #341
I hope you don't leave the thread. I don't agree with you, but I would like to hear your opinions and thoughts. I have been on both sides of the fence, then back again. Once the warrant came out, I can't logically go an other way. BUT I would still love to hear what you think.. and not in a snarky way. Maybe I'm missing something, maybe not. Don't leave. I have genuine questions for you and I am not here to change your mind. I think healthy discussions and debates are good.

Word! :)



("We are the Wooooorld...We are the Children..." :wink: )
 
  • #342
I can totally agree with the posts upthread that LE is doing a fantastic job. I'm completely on board with that.

Sweet, seems we all might agree on more than we think. :)
 
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I just want to say, after reading all these posts that some people will always give a person the benefit of the doubt. Many of us believe EA is the perp, but there will always be someone who does not or is not convinced until an arrest. My mother is a wonderful woman and she always tries to see the best in Everyone, no matter what. I crack up laughing all the time, because I can say oh I think he showed up to work w/bites and bruises and, my Mom will reply, oh maybe he fell down or got into an accident. I mean it would'nt matter what I say, she always tries to see the good side. She is quite sincere about it, and not trying to be difficult.

I think it best to Not try to convince those that do not believe. Everyone must respect each other's opinion and move on.

Awwwwww, that is so cute Jazz! Your mom sounds precious!
 
  • #345
So you agree he lied but don't equate that with kidnapping/murder. Fair enough. What about the injuries? In the warrant LE noticed bruises and abrasions on his forarm and hand. How do you think that could have happened? And what do you think happened to Christina? Not being edgy, would really like to hear what you think (you too Eileen if you are still reading).
Being a liar does not always mean you are capable of kidnap or murder. I think we all want to believe him when he says he did not hurt Christina. But when you start catching someone in one lie and then another and another it starts to get harder to believe ANYTHING that comes out of their mouth. How do you decipher what is truth and what is lies unless you prove every statement true or false with evidence. Even LE has stated with no body there is no evidence that a crime has been committed. Even if they find her DNA in his car it does not prove he hurt her unless they find her blood or evidence of decomposition. (I know her friends and family are here so I am sorry to have to say that)

Please let them find Christina so she can give us the truth about what happened. I do not think anyone involved is going to ever give the truth.
 
  • #346
I frequently wonder what that 4 day period was like for EA, too. Pure panic, I would imagine.

Returning to the scene to move her body is such an uncomfortable picture to imagine, but it does happen. The only other case I have followed/been involved in on WS was the Charli Scott case, a 5+ month pregnant woman who "went missing", and her "boyfriend/father of fetus" was the last known person to be with her. He was arrested finally and is awaiting trial. It is believed he initially buried her in one spot, then dug her up and moved her miles away. So gruesome, but it does happen.

I have no ideas when it comes to EA's nefarious actions, though.

I'm guessing that EA is still in panic mode & looks out the window on a regular basis. I try to put myself in his mindset (which IS NOT easy).. "did I hide her well enough?".. "do I need to move her?".. "what if I'm followed?".. "do the cops have a picture of her in my car?".. "well, they haven't found her yet... maybe I'm in the clear".... I would be apt to just stay put..
 
  • #347
I do not believe EA harmed Christina and my intent was not to divert. Imo, he didn't do it, so I'll look elsewhere. I want her found and the person who took her to be held responsible. I'm not here to argue and I don't need to be right. I need Christina found and the person who took her to be in custody. I regret that I'm being perceived as argumentative etc. That is not my intent at all.

I do not think you're being argumentative. We are all, hopefully, defending our beliefs within the guidelines of known, if only-at this time-circumstantial, evidence/facts.
 
  • #348
I can totally agree with the posts upthread that LE is doing a fantastic job. I'm completely on board with that.

Ok, this is where you confuse me a little ;) And I was going to ask you this too... why do you think LE is doing a great job if they are *seemingly* on focusing on EA? after all, we haven't seen a warrant on HF yet. Do you think there is or will be one? Why, if all of these things about EA in the search warrant can be innocently explained, do they seem to be focusing on him? Do you think they are possibly crossing him off their list? even after the lies? TIA.
 
  • #349
I can't find the post now, but it was a few posts upthread about someone's mother who always sees the good in people and how it is laughable. I cant recall the whole post and not putting words in anyone's mouth, but it was something to that effect. Anyway, I tend to give the side-eye to many things so I wouldn't say that I believe everything I see. However, fwiw, the uncut interview did sway me in a strong way - to the extent that I am looking in other directions. I wish I had more to go on. Maybe the car evidence will come back or the phone pings, or IDK what; We don't have much new to hash and rehash. I'm new here but I already feel welcome and like one of the family. However, if I'm wrong - you guys are free to give me the slings and arrows and I will take it. ....Although I don't think I'm wrong or I wouldn't keep harping -- and btw apologies for the harping. I'm just so very frustrated. It's not EA (for me) so I'm delving and pondering. I wish we had some more info, but I already said that.
 
  • #350
rsbm

For those that do think ea had something to do with it, I wish we could sleuth more about where she could be at this point.

Where's Catpatrol's cool map? :cat:

:lookingitup:

I had mentioned (strictly speculation / brainstorming based on stats / perp's state of mind from other cases) that Fairview, Princeton and McKinney (then Lucas IIRC) popped out to me on the map (based on the SRT/Custer RD NB last sighting).

Is there anything in EA's history to tie him to these areas where he might possibly be familiar and comfortable?
Anything that stands out to you locals about any of these areas?

Tia.
 
  • #351
I wonder if EA has made any unusual purchases. Like stopping in at Home Depot for a shovel or barrel, or cement?
 
  • #352
Ok, this is where you confuse me a little ;) And I was going to ask you this too... why do you think LE is doing a great job if they are *seemingly* on focusing on EA? after all, we haven't seen a warrant on HF yet. Do you think there is or will be one? Why, if all of these things about EA in the search warrant can be innocently explained, do they seem to be focusing on him? Do you think they are possibly crossing him off their list? even after the lies? TIA.

I think LE is doing a fantastic job. That is all.

It is methodical and they are doing what they have to do. I support LE.
 
  • #353
I think LE is doing a fantastic job. That is all.

It is methodical and they are doing what they have to do. I support LE.

OK. Thanks for answering.
 
  • #354
I wonder if EA has made any unusual purchases. Like stopping in at Home Depot for a shovel or barrel, or cement?

I asked this last week and bashed for it. All I got was no way he would go through that much trouble. ......but its always possible! IMO
 
  • #355
I'm guessing that EA is still in panic mode & looks out the window on a regular basis. I try to put myself in his mindset (which IS NOT easy).. "did I hide her well enough?".. "do I need to move her?".. "what if I'm followed?".. "do the cops have a picture of her in my car?".. "well, they haven't found her yet... maybe I'm in the clear".... I would be apt to just stay put..

Yeah..... I would think if he feels they are getting close that he would go check to make sure she is hidden:( I am hoping that a PI has been hired to watch him to make sure if this happens they see it. It gets trickier if he had help and that person (who wouldn't necessarily be on the radar) helps him move her.

Of course I'd rather her just come back alive and we wouldn't have to think of either of those things happening.
 
  • #356
I wonder if EA has made any unusual purchases. Like stopping in at Home Depot for a shovel or barrel, or cement?

Absolutely, I thought about this as well. You know, this was how they nailed, oh who was it...argh, they went and bought neon construction vests to blend in with the workers in the area...oh, I know, the Bankrobber trio, Dad, Daughter and Son from Houston (just read about it in Reader's Digest). The investigator noticed on the surveillance tapes that the vests looked brand new, they could even see the creases, so they checked with the Lowe's / HD's in the area and got a hit!!!!

In Relisha Rudd's case (she still missing, bless her little heart :( ), the likely perp KT, bought lime and garbage bags before the coward offed himself (assuming he did pull the trigger himself, which LE says is the case).

Then of course, there's Travis Forbes, the king of Bleach, and Fire( any suspicious fires?).
(Bleach, beach, always comes up).

So yes, hopefully they are looking into that!

Oh, and Walmart always comes up too. Was it JD who went and stole a pair of underwear and shoes right after the murder?

Also, any supplies missing from his garage? Hope they luminoled the hell out if his garage.
 
  • #357
The thing about McKinney is there are still a lot of heavily wooded areas and a lot of areas with building and construction. IF EA hit a barrier, it could easily of happened in a number of places in McKinney. Even going up and down 380 in McKinney towards the tollway from 75 there are a lot of areas that are wooded and bridges, I look down in the ditches as I drive by thinking he could have driven down there.... so much area to cover, it truly is a needle in the haystack. :(
Where's Catpatrol's :cat: cool map?

:lookingitup:

I had mentioned (strictly speculation / brainstorming based on stats / perp's state of mind from other cases) that Fairview, Princeton and McKinney (then Lucas IIRC) popped out to me on the map.

Is there anything in EA's history to tie him to these areas where he might possibly be familiar and comfortable?
Anything that stands out to you locals about any of these areas?

Tia.
 
  • #358
If he did indeed harm her and he moved her maybe he will have left some kind of traces. Hopefully the all the rain has not messed that up. The 3 dogs will help with that...hopefully
 
  • #359
I'm guessing that EA is still in panic mode & looks out the window on a regular basis. I try to put myself in his mindset (which IS NOT easy).. "did I hide her well enough?".. "do I need to move her?".. "what if I'm followed?".. "do the cops have a picture of her in my car?".. "well, they haven't found her yet... maybe I'm in the clear".... I would be apt to just stay put..

Couldn't agree more. How does one carry on daily with that kind of mind/soul burden. Some people have no conscience or empathy for others, but, good grief, trying to keep the knowledge of what you've done and all the loose ends suppressed must be agonizing. MOO
 
  • #360
There was an apartment building or something in Frisco that caught fire..... it was under construction still. This location has been mentioned before.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Frisco-Apartment-Under-Construction-Damaged-by-Fire-283011471.html

Absolutely, I thought about this as well. You know, this was how they nailed, oh who was it...argh, they went and bought neon construction vests to blend in with the workers in the area...oh, I know, the Bankrobber trio, Dad, Daughter and Son. The investigator noticed on the surveillance tapes that the reviewed that the vests looked brand new, could see the creases, so they checked with the Lowe's / HD in the area and got a hit!!!!

In Relisha Rudd's case (still missing, bless her little heart :( ), the likely perp KT, bought lime and garbage bags, before the coward offed himself (assuming he did pull the trigger himself, which LE says is the case.)

Then of course, there's Travis Forbes, the king of Bleach.

(Bleach, beach, always comes up).

So yes, hopefully they are looking into that!

Oh, and Walmart always comes up too. Was it JD who went and stole a pair of underwear and shoes right after the murder?

Another thing to note, any suspicious fires?
 
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