GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #19 *Arrest*

[volcarm]

I wonder if her ex has an alibi

 

[catpatrol]

Hmm, right now I'm thinking EA acted alone to harm Christina, but I wouldn't be shocked if he got help from someone to cover for him. I'm not sure to what extent though. I'm curious, is there any specific piece of this puzzle that leads you to believe other(s) were involved? I thought it was questionable for her ex to bring up that she had cheated on him, but I don't necessarily equate that to him conspiring to hurt or kill Christina. It wasn't what I would say if being questioned about a missing ex, but I suppose if he was asked about their relationship or break-up... it is the truth... still waiting on EA to be truthful about anything. I'd like to see EA's phone record from that night for sure, though. C'mon, PPD...how about an early Christmas present?:santahat:

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Yes. THIS ^^^

I completely agree with you. We are to accept that HF and CM had their "thing" (habit) as in having no contact for days is customary at times. But we are to assume that EA was lying to some members of his family for doing the same with a 3 day difference? He has friends. He has a gf. How do we know that that wasn't their (Arochi family's) "thing" as well? Or because he lied to LE about something that he lies about everything in life all the time forever? People lie. It's not good. Lying to police is even worse. It doesn't mean that someone automatically lies to their family though or about everything, always -imo. Also, making the leap from lying to becoming a kidnapper and murderer doesn't automatically compute for me either.

Additionally, imo, If EA needs to be dragged over the coals for illegal drug involvement (if there is any) then all in this group with drug involvement should be held accountable as well, imo.

Also, every employee who ever took a phone off of Sprint's property without express permission should have been dealt with too. The cherry picking in the media and elsewhere is what confuses me.

I think most people find it strange in both CM/HF situation and EA/his fam situation. The difference is that we have had info provided to us that helps us understand what "normal" was for CM/HF but no info available on what was normal for EA with his family.

The question about HF's seeming indifference was discussed quite often in early threads until we had more info.

 

[dfwmom]

Hmm, right now I'm thinking EA acted alone to harm Christina, but I wouldn't be shocked if he got help from someone to cover for him. I'm not sure to what extent though. I'm curious, is there any specific piece of this puzzle that leads you to believe other(s) were involved? I thought it was questionable for her ex to bring up that she had cheated on him, but I don't necessarily equate that to him conspiring to hurt or kill Christina. It wasn't what I would say if being questioned about a missing ex, but I suppose it is the truth... still waiting on EA to be truthful about anything. I'd like to see EA's phone record from that night for sure, though. C'mon, PPD...how about an early Christmas present?:santahat:

If he weighs 175 and she weighs 100, unless he put her somewhere right off the road, he might need someone to help carry her.

 

[volcarm]

If he weighs 175 and she weighs 100, unless he put her somewhere right off the road, he might need someone to help carry her.

I wouldn't think he needed help carrying her...
I'm thinking dumpster for some reason.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Ok. So be it. I am part of one of those families and majority of Spanish/Hispanic cultures are extremely close. Throw tomatoes at me if you want lol

If we throw tomatoes, will you make some salsa for us?

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Hunter's phone has been analyzed by LE, both of Christina's parents have read the text messages and listened to all of the voicemails on his phone. And how does anyone know if he tried to contact Christina in those 4 days? You don't, because that hasn't been released. The way I see it it's pretty apparent that LE doesn't consider him a POI or a suspect. They aren't releasing anything about him. Because he cooperated and told the truth. IMO

No double standard at all IMO, EA lied lied lied, even when the truth would have sounded better. Then he went on interviews and lied. He brought this on himself, he could stop the entire thing if he would be honest and tell what happened. I don't feel sorry for him in the least. That is just how I feel about it. I understand others may feel differently and that is fine everyone has the right to their opinion.

Good point...just because HF didn't report her missing doesn't mean he didn't try to contact her.

 

[dfwmom]

I wouldn't think he needed help carrying her...
I'm thinking dumpster for some reason.

Ya if it was something easily accessible he could do it alone. But if he was walking along wooded are with her I'd imagine he would be falling alot. Maybe that caused some of his injuries?

 

[MzOpinion8d]

JMOM, I was not referring to you. I was jumping off Hockeymom's post.

I do think drugs can be a pertinent factor in missing persons cases, as well as romantic relationships, frame of mind, and many other things.

I, too, want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

My point is, what if EA IS telling the truth that he did not harm Christina nor does he know what happened to her or where she is?

I simply don't think it's possible that he doesn't have ANY knowledge of what happened to her. He has made things far too complicated for himself if the truth is that he knows nothing.

 

[truetexan]

If he weighs 175 and she weighs 100, unless he put her somewhere right off the road, he might need someone to help carry her.

Unless he dragged her. But I'm thinking he had help by one or more...maybe... maybe not

 

[dfwmom]

Unless he dragged her. But I'm thinking he had help by one or more

Ya I am thinking that too.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

So Suzy brought up a great point that EA had a Gold Galaxy and Christina had an I phone. They wouldn't have had the same charger. So if she went with him willingly, she couldn't have had her keys IMO. If she did I would think she'd want to get her charger out of her car. I would if I had a dead phone and wanted to get in touch with my boyfriend.

Random thought and MOO.

He was switching phones frequently, so there may be a small possibility that he would have a variety of chargers in his car for the various devices he was using. She may have had her charger in her purse for all we know. She just never got a chance to use it.

 

[zippixx]

Hmm, right now I'm thinking EA acted alone to harm Christina, but I wouldn't be shocked if he got help from someone to cover for him. I'm not sure to what extent though. I'm curious, is there any specific piece of this puzzle that leads you to believe other(s) were involved? I thought it was questionable for her ex to bring up that she had cheated on him, but I don't necessarily equate that to him conspiring to hurt or kill Christina. It wasn't what I would say if being questioned about a missing ex, but I suppose it is the truth... still waiting on EA to be truthful about anything. I'd like to see EA's phone record from that night for sure, though. C'mon, PPD...how about an early Christmas present?:santahat:

I could see MAYBE someone covering for his whereabouts, without knowing the reason why. But eventually they would find out that reason & I don't believe any of his buddies or relatives would want to be tied into kidnapping/rape/murder.. JMO. I think EA is the "lone gunman", so to speak..

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I'm still wondering can you have three active cell phones with the same phone number. The only thing I can find is forum answers and it seems debatable.

The way I understood it, EA had three phones that he was rotating in and out of use, so only one at a time would have been in use. Maybe I didn't understand it right tho.

 

[zippixx]

If he weighs 175 and she weighs 100, unless he put her somewhere right off the road, he might need someone to help carry her.

I believe he dragged her.. no help involved.

 

[Latestforever]

OMG. LIGHTBULB. LYNSIE'S case, I watched it again bc you guys were talking about it...remember the dumpsite??!!! One of his dad's company's jobsites!

(See, this is where it gets tricky with TOS).

So I'll just say this. LE, if you're reading, based on other cases and generally speaking, I hope you look into properties, buildings (residential or commercial), sheds, vacant/abandoned homes which might be associated occupationally with anyone in EA's immediate circle.

There.

(now off to trulia.com :wink: )

Thanks for this I was just thinking the same thing.

 

[truetexan]

Honestly need more info.....:banghead:

 

[MzOpinion8d]

LE said that EA interfered because he lied to LE. Why? IDK. He had a reason, but I don't know what it was.

I also know there are many ways to be injured. I agree on the injury timeline as mentioned in that he seemed to be walking fine in the footage.

The warrant said that he lied because he lied.

I dont' know if he forgot where he parked. Im not sure if that part was a lie. People do forget where they park even when not drinking. There are many aspects to the interview. The one I am focused on is that I don't believe he's the one who took Christina, so who did?

I am not defending lying to LE. My point is that in my opinion, I believe EA when he said that he didn't hurt Christina or cause her to be missing or however it was phrased. I can't quote it verbatim, so I shouldn't try.

My question to you would be why do you believe him when he's been proven to be a liar? I admit I'm more cynical than most, but lie to me once and I will never fully trust you again.

"When someone shows you who they really are, believe them." One of my favorite quotes.

 

[SaintGirl]

Would be interesting to know if someone(s) other than EA refused a polygraph.

 

[Latestforever]

I frequently wonder what that 4 day period was like for EA, too. Pure panic, I would imagine.

Returning to the scene to move her body is such an uncomfortable picture to imagine, but it does happen. The only other case I have followed/been involved in on WS was the Charli Scott case, a 5+ month pregnant woman who "went missing", and her "boyfriend/father of fetus" was the last known person to be with her. He was arrested finally and is awaiting trial. It is believed he initially buried her in one spot, then dug her up and moved her miles away. So gruesome, but it does happen.

I have no ideas when it comes to EA's nefarious actions, though.

I wonder what he was up to as well during those 4 days. I wonder if there was extra water usage at his house...