GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #19 *Arrest*

[JMOM]

Good thinking! My only thing is if she got out of his car and say was hit by a car of a stranger, do u think they would call for help? Even if drunk or whatever if I hit someone by accident, I would.

Don't think for a minute I haven't thought Hunter may have been involved, in the very beginning, I did. But too much shows me he didn't.

It's a possibility. Not knowing EA or Christina's boyfriend, HF, I look at this as an outsider sometimes.

Could HF have had something to do with her disappearance? It's not impossible. He and Christina had a fight. He doesn't answer his phone - could that be to leave it at home for an alibi. Can't track a phone to a crime scene if it doesn't go there. But HOW does he know she will be in the garage at 0400? If she left with EA (and I believe she did and LE knows it), how could he predict that? And if she did how would he know where they were going? Trying to follow someone on fairly empty streets at 0400 you stand out to even the most inexperienced driver. And if EA was into drugs he might have been more in tune to his surroundings wondering if he was followed by a cop. Then there's EA's bite mark, bruises and limp. HF did something? Maybe. Not impossible. But I put it at a very slight possibility.

Could EA and Christina had a fight and either she jumped out somewhere at a stoplight or stop sign? Whatever happened was the result of a stranger. It's possible. It would explain EA's bite mark. EA might be scared to be involved with the police if he is involved with drugs as has been speculated. But a stranger? Right at the spot where she leaves the car? Possible. But I put it at very slight possibility.

That EA was directly involved in Christina's disappearance? Not 100%. But I can't say it is less 90%. Till some evidence or witness eliminates him for sure he is my guy for this.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

To me using a squeegee to wipe a car is not a huge cleanup.
the shop vac is not industrial strength..

To me he was cleaning his car not trying to erase evidence.
He would do that at home in his own garage. Destroy the mats buy new ones Etc Etc.
IMO he was probably there because he was questioned 2 times.
Id love to know who exactly showed up that night for this little get together.
Was the reason HF and CM were fighting because she was going to hang out with ex and friends?

I think they were fighting bc she found out he cheated per her boss..

You think he was cleaning his car bc he was questioned? I don't think he had been questioned at the time he was cleaning his car..

I don't know if the ex was there though that night.

 

[frisson]

To me using a squeegee to wipe a car is not a huge cleanup.
the shop vac is not industrial strength..

To me he was cleaning his car not trying to erase evidence.
He would do that at home in his own garage. Destroy the mats buy new ones Etc Etc.
IMO he was probably there because he was questioned 2 times.
Id love to know who exactly showed up that night for this little get together.
Was the reason HF and CM were fighting because she was going to hang out with ex and friends?

I agree, Eileen.
Also in your post upthread you did not say that maybe EA handed CM off to someone. You said that maybe someone else showed up. Big difference.

 

[zippixx]

Wouldn't you go have the car professionally detailed?

IMO the car is not the crime scene.

I don't think the car is the actual crime scene either.. but I DO believe it is an accessory..

 

[JMOM]

The shop vac isn't industrial strength? How do we know that?

He was at Kroger squeegee'g cause he was questioned two times? He did that at 10:15 am the morning she went missing so he hadn't been questioned at that time. If that is what you meant. I just find it odd to be cleaning your car period when you are already almost 3 hours late to work. That's just me.


QUOTE=Eileen730;11251606]To me using a squeegee to wipe a car is not a huge cleanup.
the shop vac is not industrial strength..

To me he was cleaning his car not trying to erase evidence.
He would do that at home in his own garage. Destroy the mats buy new ones Etc Etc.
IMO he was probably there because he was questioned 2 times.
Id love to know who exactly showed up that night for this little get together.
Was the reason HF and CM were fighting because she was going to hang out with ex and friends?[/QUOTE]

 

[MissUnderstood]

If he had a body in his car he would be in Jail!
JMO

Just speculating.....
If CM did get into EA's car she may have got out at some point, maybe after a struggle! He catches her, things go bad and she is disposed of there. No need to have a body in the car.
I agree that if she was deceased in his car at some point they would know that by now.
I think it's been to long for CM to be ok

Hoping she is found soon and the guilty party/parties can be punished like they deserve.


MOO!!

 

[Gigglingtoes]

It's a possibility. Not knowing EA or Christina's boyfriend, HF, I look at this as an outsider sometimes.

Could HF have had something to do with her disappearance? It's not impossible. He and Christina had a fight. He doesn't answer his phone - could that be to leave it at home for an alibi. Can't track a phone to a crime scene if it doesn't go there. But HOW does he know she will be in the garage at 0400? If she left with EA (and I believe she did and LE knows it), how could he predict that? And if she did how would he know where they were going? Trying to follow someone on fairly empty streets at 0400 you stand out to even the most inexperienced driver. And if EA was into drugs he might have been more in tune to his surroundings wondering if he was followed by a cop. Then there's EA's bite mark, bruises and limp. HF did something? Maybe. Not impossible. But I put it at a very slight possibility.

Could EA and Christina had a fight and either she jumped out somewhere at a stoplight or stop sign? Whatever happened was the result of a stranger. It's possible. It would explain EA's bite mark. EA might be scared to be involved with the police if he is involved with drugs as has been speculated. But a stranger? Right at the spot where she leaves the car? Possible. But I put it at very slight possibility.

That EA was directly involved in Christina's disappearance? Not 100%. But I can't say it is less 90%. Till some evidence or witness eliminates him for sure he is my guy for this.

Seems like if he gave her to someone else or she hopped out it would be a loss less drama for him to just say that...
Just my thoughts.

 

[carltondance]

I think they were fighting bc she found out he cheated per her boss..

You think he was cleaning his car bc he was questioned? I don't think he had been questioned at the time he was cleaning his car..

I don't know if the ex was there though that night.

Correct, He was cleaning his car hours after leaving the party...

 

[JMOM]

Showed up where? While they were driving?

I agree, Eileen.
in your post upthread you did not say that maybe EA handed CM off to someone. You said that maybe someone else showed up. Big difference.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Anything is possible but..

Jumping out of a car at a stoplight
Being handed off to someone after 4am
Being ran off the road...

Those just seem like more than what probably happened to me. Those scenarios might be more exciting or make a better TV episode but if they were the case I think EA's life would be easier to just say that. But who knows.

 

[Eileen730]

Just speculating.....
If CM did get into EA's car she may have got out at some point, maybe after a struggle! He catches her, things go bad and she is disposed of there. No need to have a body in the car.
I agree that if she was deceased in his car at some point they would know that by now.
I think it's been to long for CM to be ok

Hoping she is found soon and the guilty party/parties can be punished like they deserve.


MOO!!

If he left her where he chased her I'd think she would be found .

 

[zippixx]

I can't get Carlton's comment about EA's injuries out of my head. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something like "..consistent with someone in a headlock, fighting for their life...".. That just makes sense to me.. I'm not a big believer in a direct conspiracy theory, or more people involved... I think there are some folks that may have some info of that night, that they are hiding, that would probably help though JMO

 

[JnRyan]

I agree, Eileen.
Also in your post upthread you did not say that maybe EA handed CM off to someone. You said that maybe someone else showed up. Big difference.

Another possibility. EA handed Christina off to someone else. But why? What's the motive? I don't see kidnapping for prostitution, because Christina is too high profile. The people that do that want to do it under the radar. Get a runaway teenager or a foreigner over here illegally. Someone no one is likely to know is missing and report it.

That EA handed off Christina to someone she knew at a place that party and EA had already prearranged? Motive is a bit more realistic now. Revenge or anger maybe. But how did they know in advance that EA would walk her to the garage? For all anyone knew she was spending the night at the apartment. And just for the sake of argument, let's say EA knew could deliver her to HF, ex BF or maybe some customer from the place where Christina did photography work. Again, EA is not likely to do this for someone who is a stranger, i.e., he knows them. Also, if I were that perp, I would want some fairly isolated place to meet - no witnesses. AND if I were the perp and I planned this ahead and had a fatal meeting planned, WHY would I leave EA alive? I would probably know him and not trust to shut his mouth. What difference would another body make? They can only hang me once. And this is based on EA talking her into walking with him to the garage and THEN getting in his car. What a big "IF" for someone who didn't have many, if any girl friends in high school. In fact, if the profile Planotxgirl paints of him is accurate I don't believe he could pull it off.

Is it impossible? Nothing is impossible. But I believe is highly improbable. Too many 'IF's'.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

If he left her where he chased her I'd think she would be found .

Why was he chasing her?

 

[Doj1234]

I can't get Carlton's comment about EA's injuries out of my head. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something like "..consistent with someone in a headlock, fighting for their life...".. That just makes sense to me.. I'm not a big believer in a direct conspiracy theory, or more people involved... I think there are some folks that may have some info of that night, that they are hiding, that would probably help though JMO

Consistent with a headlock? So, there is were teeth marks parallel to the forearm, fingernail scratches perpendicular to the forearm and hurt ribs I guess. A headlock is used to control someone who is trying to hurt you or is out of control. I can't imagine it being used as a first choice to kill someone. Why would EA have been trying to subdue CM? That would be consistent with drugs possibly or her being delivered to someone, maybe ex-bf.

 

[JnRyan]

Why was he chasing her?

A scenario I have in mind is that he tries to put a move on her in the car. Maybe someplace isolated. She slaps or punches him and runs out of the car. EA snaps and chases her. If the place is isolated enough he wouldn't have to more her far. If not he has to use the trunk of his car.

But again just one of MANY scenarios.

 

[JMOM]

That is exactly how the perp killed Lynsie Ekelund. Not on purpose but in a rage by accident. It was chilling watching that Dateline episode.

Consistent with a headlock? So, there is were teeth marks parallel to the forearm, fingernail scratches perpendicular to the forearm and hurt ribs I guess. A headlock is used to control someone who is trying to hurt you or is out of control. I can't imagine it being used as a first choice to kill someone. Why would EA have been trying to subdue CM? That would be consistent with drugs possibly or her being delivered to someone, maybe ex-bf.

 

[zippixx]

Just speculating.....
If CM did get into EA's car she may have got out at some point, maybe after a struggle! He catches her, things go bad and she is disposed of there. No need to have a body in the car.
I agree that if she was deceased in his car at some point they would know that by now.
I think it's been to long for CM to be ok

Hoping she is found soon and the guilty party/parties can be punished like they deserve.


MOO!!

For that scenario to happen, EA would already need to be in one heck of a good hiding area! Don't think he planned it that well..

 

[zippixx]

Consistent with a headlock? So, there is were teeth marks parallel to the forearm, fingernail scratches perpendicular to the forearm and hurt ribs I guess. A headlock is used to control someone who is trying to hurt you or is out of control. I can't imagine it being used as a first choice to kill someone. Why would EA have been trying to subdue CM? That would be consistent with drugs possibly or her being delivered to someone, maybe ex-bf.

Yes, if EA made an unwanted advance to her, she freaks out... starts running.. he grabs her & puts her in a headlock... Could have suffocated her or possibly broken her neck.. (hate those thoughts...) I haven't heard of a headlock being strictly a defensive move...

 

[txyorkiemom]

For that scenario to happen, EA would already need to be in one heck of a good hiding area! Don't think he planned it that well..

For something not planned out, purportedly done by some idiot(s) ..and after 3 months not 1 sign or trace of her.
So where is she ?? No one has found her in and around Plano & Allen
Perhaps JM is on the right track about taken for the Sex prostitution theory.