GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #20 *Arrest*

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  • #421
What did her stepmom mean by, "If we can find her and can make her well"?

I took that to mean she is holding onto the hope that Christina is alive, but not necessarily well. I didn't see any hidden meaning. JMO
 
  • #422
I took that to mean she is holding onto the hope that Christina is alive, but not necessarily well. I didn't see any hidden meaning. JMO

That's what I took from it too. It can be hard to put something like that into words, especially if you are trying not to think the worst.
 
  • #423
I too have wondered about the bite mark, if what the co worker saw wasn't a bite we may be letting a false assumption guide our thinking. Can either of the VIs confirm whether LE saw the mark and confirmed that it as a bite?

I'm pages and pages behind right now, and this has probably been discussed in the pages i have yet to read.. BUUUT, i 1,000% have no doubt in my mind there was a bite mark. Why? Because it was stated that that EA said that he was bit in a fight... if there was no bite mark he would have said, uh no thats not a bite mark! not make an excuse as to why he had a bite mark. IMO.
 
  • #424
Thanks for the facts, txyorkiemom. I appreciate the links and documents and the time you take to post them.
Appreciated.

ok, maybe we can't call it a "bite" mark per se (I think it was), but the PPD did see 'bruising to his right forearm and abrasions to his left hand". http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/PDF-Enrique-Arochi-Search-Warrant-281502151.html (link to the warrant).

I can't see any reason why a 'disgruntled' employee would LIE to implicate EA in a missing persons case. To believe that the sprint employees are exaggerating or lying is a pretty big leap IMO. IF they are, EA has to be the unluckiest person from 4M-11AM on that night in the world. How many things does he have to explain away for him to not be involved. IMO a lot.
 
  • #425
I'm pages and pages behind right now, and this has probably been discussed in the pages i have yet to read.. BUUUT, i 1,000% have no doubt in my mind there was a bite mark. Why? Because it was stated that that EA said that he was bit in a fight... if there was no bite mark he would have said, uh no thats not a bite mark! not make an excuse as to why he had a bite mark. IMO.

Here is what I don't get. It has been stated repeatedly that EA lies - a lying liar that lies and there is evidence of some lies. So why when his statements fit a particular popular scenario is he suddenly as credible as the Pope?
 
  • #426
Here is what I don't get. It has been stated repeatedly that EA lies - a lying liar that lies and there is evidence of some lies. So why when his statements fit a particular popular scenario is he suddenly as credible as the Pope?

How so? EA told his co-worker he had been in a bar fight the night before at Shops at Legacy, and that's how he got the bite-mark. That's in the warrant. Then, in one of his TV interviews, EA says there was no bite mark. He had injured his hand hitting his car. So, someone's lying about this, right? I see two scenarios: 1. The co-worker is lying, there was no bite-mark, and EA never told him that he had been in a bar fight. The co-worker would therefore also be interfering with the investigation by lying to police. OR 2. EA is lying. The bite mark was there. He told the co-worker one story and police a different story.

It's much easier for me to believe that EA is the one lying. Why? He's been caught in multiple lies and PPD has accused him of interfering with the investigation. It's either that EA is lying or everyone around him is.
 
  • #427
Why do you think that they were not security and they have been cleared? Just curious as to why you think that? :-)

Three cars or vehicles were seen leaving the garage.
Im not so sure the other 2 were security.

I also do not think the pictures were grainy and hard to make out!
 
  • #428
One of the last interviews Jonni did she said while still here she said, "We will hold on to hope that Christina is alive, until we are proven wrong." I believe that is all Anna was trying to say. That if Christina is being held somewhere, she may not be in the best health by now, that is what I think she meant. I don't think she had any hidden meaning behind her statement at all. :-)

What did her stepmom mean by, "If we can find her and can make her well"?
 
  • #429
One of the last interviews Jonni did she said while still here she said, "We will hold on to hope that Christina is alive, until we are proven wrong." I believe that is all Anna was trying to say. That if Christina is being held somewhere, she may not be in the best health by now, that is what I think she meant. I don't think she had any hidden meaning behind her statement at all. :-)
I didn't think it was anything sinister. It just stood out to me is all. [emoji1]
 
  • #430
He did say the tire episode caused those injuries, he also said he was "turning" his tires, and the tires can't be "turned/rotated" on his car. (directional tread and back tires are larger than front tires) so there is another lie. So I think your #2 scenario is the one I will go with. But that is just me. :-)

How so? EA told his co-worker he had been in a bar fight the night before at Shops at Legacy, and that's how he got the bite-mark. That's in the warrant. Then, in one of his TV interviews, EA says there was no bite mark. He had injured his hand hitting his car. So, someone's lying about this, right? I see two scenarios: 1. The co-worker is lying, there was no bite-mark, and EA never told him that he had been in a bar fight. The co-worker would therefore also be interfering with the investigation by lying to police. OR 2. EA is lying. The bite mark was there. He told the co-worker one story and police a different story.

It's much easier for me to believe that EA is the one lying. Why? He's been caught in multiple lies and PPD has accused him of interfering with the investigation. It's either that EA is lying or everyone around him is.
 
  • #431
JMOM, are you feeling better today? Thanks again for all you're doing.
 
  • #432
ok, maybe we can't call it a "bite" mark per se (I think it was), but the PPD did see 'bruising to his right forearm and abrasions to his left hand". http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/PDF-Enrique-Arochi-Search-Warrant-281502151.html (link to the warrant).

I can't see any reason why a 'disgruntled' employee would LIE to implicate EA in a missing persons case. To believe that the sprint employees are exaggerating or lying is a pretty big leap IMO. IF they are, EA has to be the unluckiest person from 4M-11AM on that night in the world. How many things does he have to explain away for him to not be involved. IMO a lot.

I don't see a disgruntled employee but perhaps a guy that has a chance to become a celebrity of some kind maybe thinks he can get in the news.

Here is a question!
Was it a bite mark that day or was this mentioned later.
meaning did the abrasions become a bite mark after he found out Christina went missing?

does EA often come in hung over to work?
Is he late a lot?
 
  • #433
I don't see a disgruntled employee but perhaps a guy that has a chance to become a celebrity of some kind maybe thinks he can get in the news.

Here is a question!
Was it a bite mark that day or was this mentioned later.
meaning did the abrasions become a bite mark after he found out Christina went missing?

does EA often come in hung over to work?
Is he late a lot?

Hmm, IMO, I think it's clear that EA has much more to gain from lying than the co-worker does. It's not like we've seen the co-worker doing TV interviews about the bite mark to get some sort of claim to fame.
FWIW, the warrant says that the co-worker was interviewed Sept 10th
 
  • #434
He did say the tire episode caused those injuries, he also said he was "turning" his tires, and the tires can't be "turned/rotated" on his car. (directional tread and back tires are larger than front tires) so there is another lie. So I think your #2 scenario is the one I will go with. But that is just me. :-)

It just might be his wording Turning his tires. If this is what he always says then its what he says.
Language thing maybe?
I think to much emphases is placed on that! Its moot!

Lies don't make a person a murderer!
Id like to know what he told LE after they confronted him with his untruths.
He was afraid he would be blamed.
To drunk to remember?
Or covering for someone.

If he had a flat tire then there is a record out there of the tire repair or he still has that flat.

I don't know None of us do!
We are all guessing.

LE did not feel the need to out EA to the public.
they knew who he was and did not feel they have to inform us.

[modsnip]

JMO
 
  • #435
I don't see a disgruntled employee but perhaps a guy that has a chance to become a celebrity of some kind maybe thinks he can get in the news.

Here is a question!
Was it a bite mark that day or was this mentioned later.
meaning did the abrasions become a bite mark after he found out Christina went missing?

does EA often come in hung over to work?
Is he late a lot?


Like I said, if he is lying to get fame (or is disgruntled) then EA just has some terrible luck for all these things go wrong to implicate him in her disappearance.

Even if you don't call it a 'bite' mark, there are still injuries to EAs forearm and hand.

The sprint employee told PPD about the mark on 9/10 and the PPD noticed marks on EA on 9/4 (according to the warrant). IMO its a big stretch to think that witnesses wanted fame when his name didnt even come out until over a month later. And, that's a pretty mean thing to do.. to implicate someone on a missing person case by making something up, or exaggerating.
 
  • #436
Hmm, IMO, I think it's clear that EA has much more to gain from lying than the co-worker does. It's not like we've seen the co-worker doing TV interviews about the bite mark to get some sort of claim to fame.
FWIW, the warrant says that the co-worker was interviewed Sept 10th

NO ONE is being interviewed. That's odd don't ya think?

I do think if LE saw a bite mark it would have been swabbed, Photographed and a dentist would have looked at it.
It is not something they would pass over.

JMO
This is why im not sure its a bite!
 
  • #437
Like I said, if he is lying to get fame (or is disgruntled) then EA just has some terrible luck for all these things go wrong to implicate him in her disappearance.

Even if you don't call it a 'bite' mark, there are still injuries to EAs forearm and hand.

The sprint employee told PPD about the mark on 9/10 and the PPD noticed marks on EA on 9/4 (according to the warrant). IMO its a big stretch to think that witnesses wanted fame when his name didnt even come out until over a month later. And, that's a pretty mean thing to do.. to implicate someone on a missing person case by making something up, or exaggerating.

Hey the dude dug his own hole.
Hes pretty much at the bottom.

Now we need to see if he can climb his way out!
 
  • #438
I was just reading this article and was surprised to see this new bit of information! So HF is the one who reported her missing? I had no idea! All this time I had heard reports that it was her boss who alerted a girlfriend, who called her parents, who then reported it to police. JMom, can you confirm that HF is actually the one who reported her missing? That's a huge piece in the puzzle. If he did report it, when did he notice her missing? Was it the next day or was it after the boss called him?
Here's the link to the article and the article itself.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/2014/12/01/morris-missing-three-months/19722915/

Family, friends mourn 3rd month without Christina Morris
Marie Saavedra, WFAA 11:27 p.m. CST November 30, 2014
There is no arrest and no more answers for a third month. Loved ones' search for Christina Morris painfully goes on.
DALLAS -- It's been three months since Christina Morris was last seen walking to her car at the Shops at Legacy in Plano, during the early morning hours of Aug. 30.

Cameras captured her leaving with a friend. She walked out of the picture, and never returned home.
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  • #440
It's terrible. It just seems like we are no closer to finding Christina. We have people who have lied, we have people scared to talk, and we have no evidence of a crime. I guess the forensics must've shown nothing because LE said this in that article when they were searching around Watters Creek just the other day.
"So far they have found no evidence of foul play and no evidence of Morris since she disappeared from the Shops at Legacy in the early morning hours of Aug. 30."
Seriously??? They think the only logical way to have left the garage was in EA's car but they have no evidence of her since she disappeared?? So she didn't leave in his car? Arrgh. I wish they'd release the video of all the cars leaving or at least give us times that the other cars left the garage. I know LE doesn't have to tell anyone anything but I'm just saying I wish they would. I just can't believe that after 3 months and all the forensics they have done on that car they still have no evidence. It's maddening.

Maybe they are Just Looking In the Wrong Darn Places!
 
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