GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #27 *Arrest*

[Justme34]

When the car dent was repaired, would the repair shop "iron" out the dent, or would they replace the panel? If the latter, then perhaps (hopefully) LE is in possession of the damaged piece.

Depends on how bad the damage was. If it could be repaired. They would work it. Meaning it would be sanded down, dent removed and sealer , primer and paint would go over it. So likely most everything would no longer be there. ( A lot of chemicals go into that process ) But if its to damaged they would replace it.

 

[SteveS]

All JMO/another angle
Tying together (1) his story to his co-workers, "I got these injuries in a fight" and (2) cell tower records/affidavit show he possibly returned to the area:

-Possible that CM did go voluntarily to EA's house (or, someone else's house in Allen that one or both of them knew).
-When they returned, someone was waiting there, and that person (the mysterious "other arrests could be coming" person?) fought with EA out of jealous rage of CM being with him...possibly hitting CM first, then attacking EA. All of this taking place at the rear of EA's car.
-Other person manages to subdue EA/wins the fight, takes CM, leaves. EA goes back home.
-Either then, or in the ensuing days, person (or, intermediary) tells EA not to tell police anything about that night or they will kill him, his family, or both.
-EA, recognizing problems, begins an earnest clean up effort with his car.

Far fetched. But, unfortunately, because of the type of people these people are said to have associated with - drug users and dealers - it's not any less plausible than any other scenario.

Wouldn't shock me if this is the angle defense takes if she doesn't return or isn't found.

Based on each scenario you have listed, he is somewhat innocent. So it wouldn't surprise me if defense were to use it either. But I don't know how many people would buy it but they really have their work cut out for them. Jmo.

That theory doesn't work because CM was in EA's trunk at some point. No way she was there voluntarily, or that he was unaware, so he's on the hook for no less than AK.

Frankly, it's too big of a leap to keep him from being the principal (and most likely, only) perp in all of this imo.

 

[Jazz]

Last night this post didn't sound the same to me. It didn't make sense to me then. Now, it just adds more hinky feel to the whole situation. Anybody else?

So instead of Christina simply staying overnight, someone was willing to drive her all the way to Fort Worth?
Then, instead of that person driving her over to the lot, a 20 minute walk away from the apt., Christina decided to walk with weird EA? This makes little sense to me. Then CM calls the guy to say she's okay to drive like she didn't know that before she left the apartment. Then she is abducted moments later. Then she's never heard from again. Then no one reports her missing for four days.

Not buying it. If all that was going on, how did she end up walking alone with EA?

Thanks for that and also, she knew how screwed up EA was and how much he had been drinking. She wasn't going to let him drive her home....

 

[JMOM]

I respect you not wanting to get verified but if we aren't verified we need to provide links. I know I went through the same thing. That's why I got verified.

Also if there is a problem with me not being verified, you don't have to believe me or my opinions on this forum. But please respect my choice not to be and to remain anonymous .

 

[MzOpinion8d]

He likes his color shirts to match the color of his soul I guess.
I can't tell color of shirt from the video.

I nominate this for quote of the day, even though it was from yesterday

 

[Quailfoot]

Based on each scenario you have listed, he is somewhat innocent. So it wouldn't surprise me if defense were to use it either. But I don't know how many people would buy it but they really have their work cut out for them. Jmo.

I don't think you are even somewhat innocent when you lie to police. As the statute says, it may allow him to have the charge reduced from first degree to second degree.

But, then...if he goes in there and his testimony is completely different than what he has told investigators up to now...that would seem to be another charge for prosecution to pursue.

Either way, he's in trouble, in my opinion, and will sit behind bars for awhile, again, in my opinion. I simply think how long is just a matter of (1) whether CM ever returns or is found, and (2) how good a job his defense attorneys do during the trial.

Lying isn't good.

 

[Justme34]

Well, typically jacks are pretty well secured in the trunk & take a few minutes to get to.. unless his was just laying there. But as meticulous as he seemed to be with his car, I would think he would have it where it is supposed to be (a lot of rattling if you don't..).

Most newer Camaro's including his year do not come with a spare or jack. They come with a refill kit. (like a mini air compressor) pretty pointless if you ask me JMO . You can though buy a spare kit and jack for your Camaro. Not so common though.. Problem being you don't know what tire you may blow and them being different sizes (front and back) what spare do you carry? Maybe they meant like a floor jack?

 

[Bootsctr]

Most newer Camaro's including his year do not come with a spare or jack. They come with a refill kit. (like a mini air compressor) pretty pointless if you ask me JMO . You can though buy a spare kit and jack for your Camaro. Not so common though.. Problem being you don't know what tire you may blow and them being different sizes (front and back) what spare do you carry? Maybe they meant like a floor jack?

Yes, that's what I was thinking too - like a floor jack. A floor jack most commonly would be kept in a home garage, correct? Or an autobody shop. If you get that thing jacked up pretty high and the jack slips - can come down with some force - I would think.

One more question, then I think I have used up my 25 questions for the day? Is the refill kit disposable and would throw away perhaps at the roadside (if you litter) or something you can refill regarding the mini-air compressor?

ETA: How could you fill a tire up if you blew it? You need another completely different tire, a spare. Just the refill kit for a flat. My apologies!

 

[LibbyinTexas]

I can't forget the bite mark(s).

Were the bite marks confirmed? Photographed? I thought they were heresay?

 

[catpatrol]

Where the bite marks confirmed? Photographed? I thought they were heresay?

VIs have hinted very strongly that there were bite marks and they were photographed. Christina was in his trunk so I don't find it a stretch to believe that she bit him.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Oddily enough I was thinking that maybe EA was a set-up date for CM. Everyone has said they were acquainted, but not really friends. The girls knew CM was upset with HF. How better to get back at boyfriend than hanging with another guy?

So they invited EA and as it turned out CM did not care for him and showed more attention to the other guy. Thus AEs anger when she did not want to sleep on the couch with him and it would explain why CM wanted to leave party early. She may have left the party alone and he caught up with her outside. Maybe explains all the phone calls even to make him think she was connected to someone on the phone. The girls could have innocently taken her keys in hopes she would stay and she and AE would eventually hook-up.

Just another opinion, but I can easily see this scenario happening.

ETA: Disregard, I see that someone else already addressed this.

I think it was SB that EA wanted to "sleep on the couch", not CM. It says SB asked him to move off the couch and he refused, so she went to PP's bedroom and got in bed. Then he came in and told her if she wasn't sleeping on the couch, he was leaving.

 

[misslu]

She did have her car keys on her right? What if the return to SOL was because someone was going to drive her car somewhere? If EA knew that the people at the party knew he walked her to the car, you'd think he would want it to appear that she left in her car.

 

[hibiscus31]

Where the bite marks confirmed? Photographed? I thought they were heresay?

Regarding the "bite mark," no, it wasn't confirmed in the affidavit or anything. I am choosing to believe, though, as my opinion, that he did have a bite mark or at least something strongly resembling one. I do not think his co-worker had a reason to lie, but I suppose he could have been mistaken. Tilley did say he was aware of the bite mark in one MM article. Personally, I think he had a bite mark. I can understand the reluctance to accept that as fact, but I don't think anyone can dismiss the possibility.

 

[zippixx]

My husband just told me tires can't be "turned" (like flipped). He said it is illegal to flip high speed rated tires.
You can't turn the tires on the same wheel. Husband is telling me the tire will hydroplane for one thing.
I know nothing about this but he's saying one would rotate tires on a 2010 Camaro.

If EA did "turn" his tires, could the right front tire have resulted in an accident?

Personally I don't believe EA did anything with his tires.. Just another of his "fibs", thinking that would explain his injuries...

To add: If he "turned" his tires (meaning reversing them), he would need one of those big pneumatic machines to take it off the rim.. I doubt he has one of those in his garage...

 

[Quailfoot]

That theory doesn't work because CM was in EA's trunk at some point. No way she was there voluntarily, or that he was unaware, so he's on the hook for no less than AK.

Frankly, it's too big of a leap to keep him from being the principal (and most likely, only) perp in all of this imo.

Affidavit says the DNA swab came from the "interior trunk opening" not the interior itself. It is the investigator's belief that this means she was in the trunk. The opening, defense will likely argue, is not the interior, I think.

Not saying she wasn't in the trunk. Just saying that you have to realize how this will be picked apart by any half decent defense attorney. If there was a fight/scuffle among at least three people and blood or spit flew from the blows, defense could argue that could be the reason blood or spit DNA was at the opening.

Look at pictures of the rear of a 2010 Camaro. Like most cars, the trunk door and frame are not completely flush. There is a small crack. If blood and/or spit flew during a heated fight, defense will argue that it's not unreasonable to believe some of that landed there.

I think the real problem for EA isn't that but the cleaning supplies and rags. Any DNA is there and, in my opinion, the whole car is in play as is the house, I think, at that point.

Also, in my opinion, people keep talking about how petite CM was. Okay. But, EA's injuries were said to include rib pain and a limp along with bruising of the arm and bite marks.

So, think about this - during a struggle, EA gets third party into a head lock of some sort. That opens up the possibility of an elbow to the ribs, heel stomping to the top part of the foot, as well as putting the arm close to the mouth, ripe for a bite.

Do we know whether the bite mark on his arm was measured by detectives? If so, dental records from CM could easily tell if the size matched her mouth or of someone bigger. Hopefully, detectives did this.

 

[catpatrol]

So, are we in agreement yet that Paul Johnson is not the attorney?

Keith Gore is listed on the legal filings; Richard Franklin is listed in the inmate records.

As high profile as this case could become, perhaps McClung & Franklin reached out to Gore and offered to help? From each firm's website, it looks like their defense interests/areas of practice mesh.

All it takes is for these attorneys to spring one guy, and they are all of the sudden nationwide - books, talk shows...known to more notorious/famous criminals.

With as many questions as there seem to be unresolved, perhaps Franklin believes the Aggravated Kidnapping charge is one they can beat. Says he has experience with Henry Wade. People from that area, was he a good District Attorney? Any idea how long Franklin worked for him?

I seems like many defense attorney cut their teeth on the DA side. But, there can only be one DA, so I think that's why many of them leave after a few years. They know the ins and outs of the criminal trials. So, my guess is with Gore and Franklin both having DA experience, this will be a real legal battle...unless CM shows up or is found. Then, many unanswered questions will be resolved, in my opinion, pretty easily.

I bet it was the other way around, Gore reached out to Franklin for help. Franklin could have reached out to the Arochis a long time ago if he was looking for notoriety and I don't think he needs Gore. I guess Gore thinks there's a little more than conjecture in those affidavits after all.

 

[SaintGirl]

Regarding the "bite mark," no, it wasn't confirmed in the affidavit or anything. I am choosing to believe, though, as my opinion, that he did have a bite mark or at least something strongly resembling one. I do not think his co-worker had a reason to lie, but I suppose he could have been mistaken. Tilley did say he was aware of the bite mark in one MM article. Personally, I think he had a bite mark. I can understand the reluctance to accept that as fact, but I don't think anyone can dismiss the possibility.

I believe it was listed in the affidavit for the search warrant on his car. Not as a fact, like you said, but that it was reported to LE by co-worker there was a bite mark.

 

[LibbyinTexas]

VIs have hinted very strongly that there were bite marks and they were photographed. Christina was in his trunk so I don't find it a stretch to believe that she bit him.

Agreed but when discussing the different theories of how she might of ended up in his trunk it would be nice to know if she actually had the ability to fight and bite. Someone mentioned maybe he hit her with his car and she was fatally wounded (thus unable to ever fight back) or maybe he hit her with the jack and she never saw it coming.... to know whether or not she was able to fight back and bite would be very relative...not just to speculate... did she or did she not bite him?

 

[Quailfoot]

Link please.

Link to what? Those were at the bottom of the list someone on this site had compiled.

 

[LibbyinTexas]

Affidavit says the DNA swab came from the "interior trunk opening" not the interior itself. It is the investigator's belief that this means she was in the trunk. The opening, defense will likely argue, is not the interior, I think.

Not saying she wasn't in the trunk. Just saying that you have to realize how this will be picked apart by any half decent defense attorney. If there was a fight/scuffle among at least three people and blood or spit flew from the blows, defense could argue that could be the reason blood or spit DNA was at the opening.

Look at pictures of the rear of a 2010 Camaro. Like most cars, the trunk door and frame are not completely flush. There is a small crack. If blood and/or spit flew during a heated fight, defense will argue that it's not unreasonable to believe some of that landed there.

I think the real problem for EA isn't that but the cleaning supplies and rags. Any DNA is there and, in my opinion, the whole car is in play as is the house, I think, at that point.

Also, in my opinion, people keep talking about how petite CM was. Okay. But, EA's injuries were said to include rib pain and a limp along with bruising of the arm and bite marks.

So, think about this - during a struggle, EA gets third party into a head lock of some sort. That opens up the possibility of an elbow to the ribs, heel stomping to the top part of the foot, as well as putting the arm close to the mouth, ripe for a bite.

Do we know whether the bite mark on his arm was measured by detectives? If so, dental records from CM could easily tell if the size matched her mouth or of someone bigger. Hopefully, detectives did this.

Sorry if I am misunderstanding ....so it seems some theories are suggesting a third party was involved and there was a fight over or because of Christina?? If that was the case.... seems it wouldn't be to long before one or the other would sing and get a deal. First to the cut....